Greetings,

I don't get it! WUs are at 100% progress and then go into resend mode. How the heck does THAT work? The only thing I can think of, which doesn't sound logical, is that the data was sent 100% from the host yet the recipient has not gotten it so the WU goes back into resend mode.

Have a nice day, if you can. ;)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Hi Siran.
From the technical side of the Internet, this most likely means either the receiver never sent the acknowledgement that the final packet in the file was received properly, or that the last packet was not received before the time limit was reached. Of course, there could be a number of reasons why the file was not received correctly or within the required time fame. That is most likely what someone is, or soon will be, researching at Berkeley.

I hope that they will find the problem quickly, and that the fix is easy to do.

I have found today that (if you have the time), going into the Transfer tab, selecting all the units trying to upload, then clicking the "Retry Now" button each time all have backed off, will get them completed within a few minutes of retrying. This only works when the cause of the failed updates is related to certain types of technical problems. Unfortunately, many times the issue at hand during one of these events will preclude the success of this retry procedure. Today, though, we are in luck, i.e., the retry6 does work.

I hope this helps.

Hi Siran.
From the technical side of the Internet, this most likely means either the receiver never sent the acknowledgement that the final packet in the file was received properly, or that the last packet was not received before the time limit was reached. Of course, there could be a number of reasons why the file was not received correctly or within the required time fame. That is most likely what someone is, or soon will be, researching at Berkeley.

I hope that they will find the problem quickly, and that the fix is easy to do.

I have found today that (if you have the time), going into the Transfer tab, selecting all the units trying to upload, then clicking the "Retry Now" button each time all have backed off, will get them completed within a few minutes of retrying. This only works when the cause of the failed updates is related to certain types of technical problems. Unfortunately, many times the issue at hand during one of these events will preclude the success of this retry procedure. Today, though, we are in luck, i.e., the retry6 does work.

I hope this help.

Hi Cherokee,

Yeah, that's about what I was getting at. I guess it was more logical than I thought. ;)

I do try the "Retry Now" and some do get through. I don't like to do it too often though since there are thousands of us trying to upload our finished work. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

splitting isn't happening properly either from the looks of it. It is around lunchtime for the Seti crew. Does anyone know if they are aware there is an issue??

I don't get it! WUs are at 100% progress and then go into resend mode. How the heck does THAT work?

That last Ack/Nak to finish the transfer either didn't get sent or got eaten by a router. Quite a few also die in mid-stream. All it takes is to time out on retries looking for that last handshake.

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I haven't seen any notice or post that anyone has contacted staff. So they might not be aware of the issue if they haven't looked at the forums or the servers stats.

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My avg. work done as is reported on Boinc manager has been stuck for several hrs. This is not normal. Here on the web site it moves around as is normal.

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Try looking at who #28 is listed as belonging to, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php?sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=20
ID: 8682108
#28 Magne 171,989.52 8,889,326 7.8.3
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] (8 processors)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (4095MB) driver: 418.43 OpenCL: 1.2
Linux Ubuntu Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS [4.15.0-46-generic]

Now look at #8, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php
ID: 8690734
#8 Magne 363,269.95 18,080,802 7.4.44
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] (8 processors)
[5] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (4095MB) driver: 418.43
Linux 4.15.0-46-generic

Now note Magne only has One Linux Machine, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=118177
You should also note the RAC on his User page, Recent average credit 199,322.93
Most people would conclude it is the SAME machine.

You can also look at Juan's page and note the Credit; https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8606388
Total credit: 450,616,983
But when you look at his host, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8606388
ID: 8662921: Total credit: 1,375,790,492
So, how does a Total of 450,616k translate to a Host of 1,375,790k?
Strange things around here...

possibliy using more than one session of boinc and then make fusion between them ?

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Eric is working on the problems.

Meow!

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

Eric is working on the problems.

Meow!

Thanks for the installation Mark

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Uploads are definitely very iffy today.

. . Aaahh! Here we go again, 24 hours (or so) to maintenance outage and the uploads are playing up .... :(

Just like a switch was flipped ...

. . Yep, one minute everything is fine, then no uploads without kicking them over and over ... :(

Stephen

:(

Look at the User Stats. A User can't have a Host with better stats than the User. Here's Magne's stats, https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/204994/lastDays
The machine that was at #28 had OpenCL installed, the machine that appeared at #8 Doesn't have OpenCL installed. Not having OpenCL is common on a New Build as the installer doesn't install OpenCL by default.
We Know what happened to Juan. He broke his One computer's networking and had to reinstall the OS. When it came back online with the New system the SETI Server gave it a New ID with an Extra One BILLION Credits and Over an Extra One MILLION RAC. Juan wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary, certainly not 'fusioning'. It appears the Exact same thing happened with Magne, it blinked out with an RAC of around 172k and blinked back in with an RAC of 363k which is impossible for that machine, and his User Stats.

Try looking at who #28 is listed as belonging to, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php?sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=20
ID: 8682108
#28 Magne 171,989.52 8,889,326 7.8.3
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] (8 processors)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (4095MB) driver: 418.43 OpenCL: 1.2
Linux Ubuntu Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS [4.15.0-46-generic]

Now look at #8, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php
ID: 8690734
#8 Magne 363,269.95 18,080,802 7.4.44
GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz [Family 6 Model 60 Stepping 3] (8 processors)
[5] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (4095MB) driver: 418.43
Linux 4.15.0-46-generic

Now note Magne only has One Linux Machine, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=118177
You should also note the RAC on his User page, Recent average credit 199,322.93
Most people would conclude it is the SAME machine.

You can also look at Juan's page and note the Credit; https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8606388
Total credit: 450,616,983
But when you look at his host, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8606388
ID: 8662921: Total credit: 1,375,790,492
So, how does a Total of 450,616k translate to a Host of 1,375,790k?
Strange things around here...

possibliy using more than one session of boinc and then make fusion between them ?

I'm also getting a lot of my uploads stuck at 100% while others timeout and just go into retry loops.

. . They are the most frustrating, after kicking them and kicking them you see one get to 100%, then ... nada, it just sits there taunting you ... aaarrggghh!

Stephen

:(

We've seen this sort of things a few times when the database gets its bits in a twist, and that has been followed by a disk handing its notice in....

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

welp, the 1mil system is out of work, with about 2800 uploads just waiting to go through.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Are they all reported?

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Are they all reported?

Reporting happens after upload is complete, right? At least here :)

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Nope. That’s the problem. They won’t upload (well they do eventually. Just a lot slower than normal). So I can’t report them. And with so many uploads pending, I haven’t been able to download new tasks all day. So I’ve run dry. Only the slower systems have been able to keep a low enough cache of pending uploads to still get downloads.

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Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

I've been babysitting the farm all day. As long as a couple get uploaded, I can then do an update to report 100 tasks. Then I can get more work.

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