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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298 
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So how about a review of these limits Seti group controllers? jsm |
 Keith Myers   Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 
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So how about a review of these limits Seti group controllers? Put the proposal into a issue at Github and it may get picked up and incorporated. https://github.com/BOINC/boinc Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours   A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Jord  Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 
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Alternate.nl is now showing the 3950X for pre-order for an eye watering €829,- https://m.alternate.nl/AMD/Ryzen-9-3950X-socket-AM4-processor/html/product/1576431 The TR 3970X goes for €2149,- https://m.alternate.nl/AMD/Ryzen-Threadripper-3970X-socket-sTRX4-processor/html/product/1593506 The 3960X for €1499,- https://m.alternate.nl/AMD/Ryzen-Threadripper-3960X-socket-sTRX4-processor/html/product/1593504 And both the Intel 9980XE and 10980XE go for €1099,- ... Edit: CDROMLAND has the 3950X for €832,95 https://cdromland.nl/product/1663/276170/AMD-Ryzen-9-3950X-processor |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Just saw Japan is completely sold-out of the AMD 3950x with prices at an $800+ premium and the Threadrippers were moving pretty good too. A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298
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review request now in github as an issue. jsm |
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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298
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I would appreciate extra support on github re a review of limits if you agree one is needed in view of the negative response observed. Link is in Keith's earlier post jsm |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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I would appreciate extra support on github re a review of limits if you agree one is needed in view of the negative response observed. Link is in Keith's earlier post You need to address your concerns directly to the person responsible for SETI application and SETI server code. That would be Eric Korpela. You can email him at: korpela at ssl.berkeley.edu Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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I tell ya' . . . . this Phoronix article comparing Epyc Naples vs Rome cpus makes a compelling argument to just skip the TR3 3960X and 3970X cpus for the same price. Server motherboard is much cheaper than a TR3 motherboard and offers more memory and more PCIe lanes. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-rome-power&num=1 https://www.newegg.com/asrock-rack-epycd8-amd-epyc-7000-series-processor-family/p/N82E16813140010?Description=AsRock%20Rack%20EPYCD8&cm_re=AsRock_Rack_EPYCD8-_-13-140-010-_-Product I'd pair the Asrock epycd8 motherboard with a Rome 7402 24C/48T processor https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=Rome+7402P Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I tell ya' . . . . this Phoronix article comparing Epyc Naples vs Rome cpus makes a compelling argument to just skip the TR3 3960X and 3970X cpus for the same price. Server motherboard is much cheaper than a TR3 motherboard and offers more memory and more PCIe lanes. In terms of cpu speeds I presume the Threadripper has a higher Ghz speed. But the Epyc may have significantly better processing speed at a lower Ghz based on a glance at the best performing Epyc on the Leaderboard list. So is this a case of Core Envy combined with a lust for server-level reliability? Hmmmm...... Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298
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It will be interesting to compare the pricing of the 3990WX with the EPYC 64/128. I did try out a dual EPYC last series but was not overally impressed. jsm |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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It will be interesting to compare the pricing of the 3990WX with the EPYC 64/128. I did try out a dual EPYC last series but was not overally impressed. Was that because of the generally lower cpu clocks and the much lower achievable memory speeds compared to Threadripper? Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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I ordered a new cpu block for my Ryzen 3900X cpu. A new company has come up with a new block design I predicted would inevitably be made to work better with the offset die location of Ryzen 3000 cpus. Interested to see if there is any large improvement over my existing blocks with the old centrally located designs. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298
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Yes and also the dual EPYC was at that time very much more expensive than the Threadrippers. Mind you I did not understand the incapability of the TR2990 to communicate properly internally - something I understand has been corrected with TR3. jsm |
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 
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I did try out a dual EPYC last series but was not overally impressed.If you checkout the article, you'll see how much of an improvement the Rome series are over Naples. And then there is the earlier article showing the Rome Epyc's leaving the Xeon Plantium behind. Grant Darwin NT |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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Optimus is also coming out with a new Threadripper3 cpu block that has new design compared to the older products from the other vendors. https://optimuspc.com/products/absolute-cpu-block-threadripper-3 I should get my new Optimus Foundation Ryzen 3000 cpu block Tuesday.  Mine is just the black acetal top but this image shows the microfin array and jet plate orientation. The two dies of my 3900X would located under the bottom inlet port so you can see the flow through the microfins go across the short side of the dies and they cover the entire dies. My current XSPC Raystorm Pro block has the microfin array 90° rotated for flow across the long side of the dies and doesn't cover the full length of both dies. The block can't be rotated either because of the rectangular fixing of the AM4 socket screws. One of its drawbacks. My Aquacomputer Cuplex Kryos block has its microfin array oriented the correct way but the surface area of the array isn't large enough to cover all the dies. Found some thread over on Overclockers.net with the manufacturer participating in the thread. Starting to read through the posts. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298
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I am pleased to report that the limits WILL be reviewed and if possible and practical will be increased slowly. JSM |
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Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873
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I am pleased to report that the limits WILL be reviewed and if possible and practical will be increased slowly. Is that from a conversation with Eric? Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3
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Made my decision, going for a Corsair Hydro Series H100i RGB PLATINUM SE, mainly because it's an all white AIO. With a white case it is nice to have white cooling as well. At least this AIO has an AM4 bracket in the package, as I see on plenty of the others that you have to buy it separately... (e.g. on the Hydro Series H115i PRO series) (Also ordering a Seasonic Focus PX-850 PSU) |
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jsm Send message Joined: 1 Oct 16 Posts: 124 Credit: 51,135,572 RAC: 298
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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
It seems reasonable unless you want them to respond on GitHub for the record. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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