Engadet confirms the rumors here:
AMD's $749 Ryzen 9 3950X is the 'world's first' 16-core gaming CPU

Today during its E3 2019 press conference, AMD announced it's pushing gaming beyond 8- or 12-cores, with a new "best of the best" CPU. The "World's first 16-core gaming CPU" is the Ryzen 9 3950X, which will be available in September for $749. Outdoing Intel's 8-core gaming CPU, CEO Dr. Lisa Su said this chip has "the highest boost frequency in our stack" that goes up to 4.7Ghz, with 72MB of cache and operating at 105 watts.

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Engadet confirms the rumors here:
AMD's $749 Ryzen 9 3950X is the 'world's first' 16-core gaming CPU

Today during its E3 2019 press conference, AMD announced it's pushing gaming beyond 8- or 12-cores, with a new "best of the best" CPU. The "World's first 16-core gaming CPU" is the Ryzen 9 3950X, which will be available in September for $749. Outdoing Intel's 8-core gaming CPU, CEO Dr. Lisa Su said this chip has "the highest boost frequency in our stack" that goes up to 4.7Ghz, with 72MB of cache and operating at 105 watts.

The fact that the official announcement still has it at 105 TDP is amazing. Those gerbils must be REALLY hyped.

Tom

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Wonderful to have the leaked slide confirmed by AMD officially that the 16 core retains the 105W TDP. And a $749 MSRP to boot. Availability later only because they have to bin the duff 12 cores out to get enough retail stock for the 16 core part. Beats the old Threadripper 2950X 16 core part by $80. Not too shabby.

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As usual Ian Cutress of AnandTech has done a bang-up job of elucidating the structural and architectural improvements of Zen 2.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome

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As usual Ian Cutress of AnandTech has done a bang-up job of elucidating the structural and architectural improvements of Zen 2.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome

Looking forward to the reviews when they come out- from Ian's analysis, it is looking extremely likely that they will live up to the present hype.

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I just ran across an announcement that the next generation of the APU's will be available on July 7.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14523/amd-ryzen-3000-apus-up-to-vega-11-more-mhz-under-150

I am almost certain I am going to upgrade my Ryzen 5 2400G because the price is low enough and I am very unhappy with the cpu processing performance I have been getting. I really want that Zen+ cpu improvement.

Tom

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Has anyone found a website that is allowing "pre-orders"?

Tom

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Has anyone found a website that is allowing "pre-orders"?

Tom

Havn't you been burnt enough by jumping in far too quickly on new stuff Tom? :-O

Be patient Grasshopper and wait until the proper conclusions and results are out or you could wind up with another 2990WX on your hands. ;-)

Cheers.

As much as Ryzen 3rd gen looks awesome, I would be hesitant to jump on right away. I'm sure performance has increased, but if the percentages AMD claims remains to be seen. Additionally, I'm curious to see the thermals for both the chips and the motherboards. It seems that there is some wiggle room with what you can claim the TDP is for a chip, and adding a fan to a chipset has me nervous (for no specific reason, I will admit). I've heard how it can be difficult to keep an i9-9900K cool; I'm curious to see if that will be the same for the 3900X or 3950X.

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Has anyone found a website that is allowing "pre-orders"?

Tom

Havn't you been burnt enough by jumping in far too quickly on new stuff Tom? :-O

Be patient Grasshopper and wait until the proper conclusions and results are out or you could wind up with another 2990WX on your hands. ;-)

Cheers.

I should have noted the one I am eager to get is the upgrade to the 2400G (Apu). That is going from Zen to Zen+ and should therefore not be an iffy result. And the price posted is $10 less than list for the original 2400G.

I am NOT going to drop in a Ryzen 9000 anytime soon. Might take a hard look at the 16c/32t after it has been out and someone else has taken the first step on Seti.

Tom

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I have had plenty of arrows in my back over the years. Always been an early adopter. I will still wait for reviews of real world performance and use cases before making the plunge. I'm pretty sure I will be getting at least one R9-3900X but for the rest of the farm I probably will trickle in the R7-3800X one at a time over long period.

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I see that 1usmus has posted over in his Twitter feed that he is seeing X590 chipset boards in the latest AGESA code. Supposed to have either more PCI-E lanes or two more channels of memory or more SATA or more USB or whatever ? ? ? ?

[Edit] And more news from 1usmus . . . .

Good news for all users of Ryzen. AMD has listened to my comments and fixed problems with Inter-Core Latency , Inter-Core Bandwidth and U Data Latency. Look for BIOSes with AGESA 1.0.0.1 and newer.

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https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amd-is-working-on-a-monster-64-core-threadripper-landing-as-early-as-q4-2019/

Did you think AMD was done with Threadripper? Well, if that’s what you thought, I have some good news. I have confirmation that the company is preparing an absolutely monstrous 64-core/128-thread Threadripper part for launch in Q4 2019.
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The platform is called X599 right now although I am told AMD is considering changing the name to avoid confusion with Intel. This is not really surprising since both Intel and AMD HEDT platforms have the same nomenclature and it can get really confusing. I am also told that they they plan to retain the “99” suffix.
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my source did not mention a new socket, so as far as I know, this should be socket compatible with the existing TR4 motherboards and only a bios update should be needed if you already own one.
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the 64-core Threadripper CPU will probably be priced in the $2500 to $3000 range, making it one of the most affordable workstation processors around with this many threads. Considering Intel’s 18-core retails for around $1800, this is going to be an absolute steal for the retail professional.
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My source was pretty clear on the timeline and said AMD plans to introduce this before the year is over because they have something else planned for CES next year.

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As far as I know the TR socket is the same as the Epyc socket only with slight changes to the pinout. So with the Epyc "Rome" processors already being shown in their 8 chiplet configurations, it makes sense there could be a 64 core Threadripper part eventually.

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So the Windows 10 1903 update is supposed to include performance improvements for Ryzen (I think across all lines, not just 3rd generation). Hardware Unboxed tested this. Spoiler alert, nothing changed: https://youtu.be/5XMWS0_9gNo. This may just require a chipset upgrade that hasn't been released. Assuming there is a performance increase, I am curious how that may affect BOINC, even if it is just a little bit.

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So the Windows 10 1903 update is supposed to include performance improvements for Ryzen (I think across all lines, not just 3rd generation). Hardware Unboxed tested this. Spoiler alert, nothing changed: https://youtu.be/5XMWS0_9gNo. This may just require a chipset upgrade that hasn't been released. Assuming there is a performance increase, I am curious how that may affect BOINC, even if it is just a little bit.

I was listening to a Utube video that mentioned needed a new cpu driver to make the Win 10 1903 work with the better performance in terms of consolidating.

Tom

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That's what was supposedly in the May 2019 update. A new kernel. The video mentioned updated chipset drivers may be necessary.

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A lot of videos and posts from people that report that they have detected no difference in the May 2019 Windows kernel update and better scheduling performance. This post from 1usmus says that you need to also install newer chipset drivers to observe any changes.

Win 10 1903 update has some improvements on the scheduler...question is whether Bios update is needed for full benefit.
yes and chipset drivers 19.10

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Ryzens newly in the news:



Up Close With the Atari VCS, 'The Raspberry Pi for the Living Room'

It's been a long road to Atari's VCS release, kicked off by an Indiegogo campaign that raised $3 million, but the system, which comes powered by an AMD Ryzen processor, is finally up for pre-order...



AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Beats $2,000 Intel Core i9-9980XE In Geekbench Test

A PC said to be using the yet to be released 16-core, 32-thread AMD Ryzen 9 3950X CPU appears to beat the 18-core, 36-thread Intel Core i9-9980XE in multi-core performance in a leaked Geekbench test result. The AMD CPU's 61,072 score is the highest we’ve ever seen from a consumer CPU...



All for a Phenomenal price-performance ratio and with the performance!

IT is what we make it...
Martin

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Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

This was a post today from 1usmus, the wizard Ryzen RAM Calculator developer regarding the Windows May 2019 1903 release in his Overclock.net forum thread.

Windows 1903 : new scheduler or big lie?

Unfortunately, this will probably be news for you, to hear that the Microsoft Priority Scheuduler is not a scheduler. This is a beautiful name that a decade has misled people.

It doesn't "schedule" anything, it allocates slices of time. It has no way at all to prioritize anything. It gives slices of time to IO loads. It's doesn't schedule anything, there is no kind of queue, no kind of buffering system, no kind of scheduler, no kind of abstraction at all. It just allocates time and nothing else. It then spends most of that time flushing and filling the CPU integer pipelines due to constant serial streams of context switches.

Do not wait for a miracle, it will not. We need a real planner, and unfortunately we need a new kernel. Radically new.
Windows 7-10 are stillborn operating systems that are not designed to perform parallel tasks.

Profile some IO bound load on WSL and see it for yourself.

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