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Message 2028263 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 2:41:35 UTC

I don't know if I want to laugh or cry. I have a 3950x running a Asus ROG Cross Hair VII motherboard.

A little while ago I used the "TPU" automatic overclock in the Bio settings. It announced a 5% overclock.

What is interesting is at 3.7Ghz (up from slightly under 3.5Ghz) it is using less cpu volts and running cooler.... than it was running at 3.5Ghz.

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Message 2028279 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 5:40:53 UTC - in response to Message 2028263.  

That setting manipulates a lot of BIOS settings under the covers. Some form of moderate AMD overclocking rules and could be achieved the same way through the standard AMD overclocking menu. Just a recipe probably thought up by The Stilt for ASUS. There are lots of pre-canned things in the BIOS that he developed when he worked for ASUS.

Glad you got even lower voltage and temps. But does it hold under BOINC load? You saw the effect of going too low in Vcore under your 90% loading.
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Message 2028303 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 12:05:13 UTC - in response to Message 2028279.  
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That setting manipulates a lot of BIOS settings under the covers. Some form of moderate AMD overclocking rules and could be achieved the same way through the standard AMD overclocking menu. Just a recipe probably thought up by The Stilt for ASUS. There are lots of pre-canned things in the BIOS that he developed when he worked for ASUS.

Glad you got even lower voltage and temps. But does it hold under BOINC load? You saw the effect of going too low in Vcore under your 90% loading.


I will take a look at it this morning after I am finished with my obligatory morning routine items. If it is still running then apparently it is happy. If it isn't then I guess I will revert to 1.25 volts on a pure basic setup.

I am now wondering if there are any Ryzen motherboards besides the one Biostar that has quit on me that have an accessible "Above 4G" setting in their bios? I am being told that my cheapy 1 to 4 expansion card has a PLX chip on it. But I haven't been able to get past 6 gpu's on two different Asus MB's. I ordered a 1 to 8 card on the off chance...

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Message 2028311 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 13:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 2028303.  


I will take a look at it this morning after I am finished with my obligatory morning routine items. If it is still running then apparently it is happy. If it isn't then I guess I will revert to 1.25 volts on a pure basic setup.


Still running. Still running cooler :) This should be a good day to get my socket fan re-installed.
tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ sensors
asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:        0 RPM

asuswmisensors-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
CPU Core Voltage:         +1.12 V  
CPU SOC Voltage:          +1.07 V  
DRAM Voltage:             +1.20 V  
VDDP Voltage:             +0.46 V  
1.8V PLL Voltage:         +1.85 V  
+12V Voltage:            +11.94 V  
+5V Voltage:              +5.01 V  
3VSB Voltage:             +3.36 V  
VBAT Voltage:             +3.23 V  
AVCC3 Voltage:            +3.38 V  
SB 1.05V Voltage:         +1.07 V  
CPU Core Voltage:         +1.14 V  
CPU SOC Voltage:          +1.08 V  
DRAM Voltage:             +1.21 V  
CPU Fan:                 1209 RPM
Chassis Fan 1:              0 RPM
Chassis Fan 2:              0 RPM
Chassis Fan 3:              0 RPM
HAMP Fan:                   0 RPM
Water Pump:                 0 RPM
CPU OPT:                 1248 RPM
Water Flow:                 0 RPM
AIO Pump:                   0 RPM
CPU Temperature:          +67.0°C  
CPU Socket Temperature:   +47.0°C  
Motherboard Temperature:  +28.0°C  
Chipset Temperature:      +49.0°C  
Tsensor 1 Temperature:   +216.0°C  
CPU VRM Temperature:      +48.0°C  
Water In:                +216.0°C  
Water Out:               +216.0°C  
CPU VRM Output Current:  +70.00 A  

tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ 


Last night late I got a test boot to work for my Amd 3900x cpu on its newest home. So today it (probably) will get installed and start munching. The current plan is the Amd 3950x will be 100%. Seti And the 3900x will take over all the cpu crunching for World Community Grid as well as some Seti gpu crunching.

"Cool" beans :)

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Message 2028336 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 16:09:31 UTC - in response to Message 2028303.  

I am now wondering if there are any Ryzen motherboards besides the one Biostar that has quit on me that have an accessible "Above 4G" setting in their bios? I am being told that my cheapy 1 to 4 expansion card has a PLX chip on it. But I haven't been able to get past 6 gpu's on two different Asus MB's. I ordered a 1 to 8 card on the off chance...

I could not find any sign of "Above 4G decoding" in any previous C7H official BIOS output. But I have never played around with any modded BIOS. That might be exposed in a modded BIOS, but probably not.
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Message 2028346 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 17:15:29 UTC - in response to Message 2028311.  


Last night late I got a test boot to work for my Amd 3900x cpu on its newest home. So today it (probably) will get installed and start munching. The current plan is the Amd 3950x will be 100%. Seti And the 3900x will take over all the cpu crunching for World Community Grid as well as some Seti gpu crunching.

"Cool" beans :)

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The AMD 3900x just came up and downloaded a full set of cpu tasks from WCG. Apparently the Seti server isn't passing anything out so I went ahead and installed the E@H project with a resource of "0" and it promptly downloaded three gpus worth of tasks.

Now I have to go figure out how Keith had me install some wmi sensors.

This Rig has been slimmed down to up to 6 GPU cards (it was an 8 card mining Rack). I am running two straight off the MB and the other one and its 3 empty riser cards off a 1 to 4 expander card plugged into the 3rd "long slot" on the MB. The MB is the Asus Prime X470-Pro MB (Thank Keith for the recommendation).
I am going to recommend this MB to anyone who doesn't want to pay for the power/stability of a CH Hero VII. It has 6 slots to CH Hero's 5 (I am using an M.2 adapter for the 6th GPU on the CH Hero VII MB).

It should blow past 100, 000 RAC on Seti@Home without to much trouble.

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ps. I got it set up just in time for an Arctic cold air blast due in today. Its heating the Master Bedroom till summer when it will get too hot.
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Message 2028387 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 20:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 2028346.  
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Now I have to go figure out how Keith had me install some wmi sensors.


I have to remember to cd to the newly created folder where the clone of the git repository is sitting. The make works MUCH better then.

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Message 2028391 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 20:58:57 UTC - in response to Message 2028387.  

Forget dkms, just install it.
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo make install

You can go back later and install dkms.
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Message 2028401 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 21:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 2028387.  


Now I have to go figure out how Keith had me install some wmi sensors.


I have to remember to cd to the newly created folder where the clone of the git repository is sitting. The make works MUCH better then.

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I was running with that TPU1 for "air cooled" systems and it got all ambitious at set it to 4Ghz. Once I got the sensors setup it was running just shy of 90C. Feeling the heat I went back to "optimized defaults" turned off the core boost and the precision boost. Turned on the D.O.C.P. (?) ram settings and now it is doing this:

tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sensors
asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:        0 RPM

asuswmisensors-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
CPU Core Voltage:         +1.18 V  
+12V Voltage:            +11.97 V  
+5V Voltage:              +4.96 V  
3VSB Voltage:             +3.31 V  
CPU Fan:                 3054 RPM
Chassis Fan 1:              0 RPM
Chassis Fan 2:              0 RPM
Chassis Fan 3:              0 RPM
AIO Pump:                   0 RPM
Water Pump:                 0 RPM
CPU OPT:                    0 RPM
CPU Temperature:          +71.0°C  
Motherboard Temperature:  +37.0°C  
Chipset Temperature:       +0.0°C  
Tsensor 1 Temperature:     +0.0°C  

tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ 


At "only " 3.7-3.8Ghz....

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Message 2028420 - Posted: 18 Jan 2020, 23:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 2028401.  

Unless you trimmed a lot of the sensors outputs, that doesn't look correct for the output of asus-wmi-sensors. The Tsensor1 for example should be +216°C. for an unterminated input.
Try running sensors -u for the raw sensor outputs idents.
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Message 2028422 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 0:34:18 UTC - in response to Message 2028303.  


I am now wondering if there are any Ryzen motherboards besides the one Biostar that has quit on me that have an accessible "Above 4G" setting in their bios? I am being told that my cheapy 1 to 4 expansion card has a PLX chip on it. But I haven't been able to get past 6 gpu's on two different Asus MB's. I ordered a 1 to 8 card on the off chance...


Tom,

My Gigabyte X570 Ultra has the "Above 4G" setting. Kinda of a pricey board for just that feature. Perhaps some the other Gigabyte boards for Ryzen also have this feature. Not really sure how to check.

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Message 2028429 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 2:02:50 UTC - in response to Message 2028422.  


I am now wondering if there are any Ryzen motherboards besides the one Biostar that has quit on me that have an accessible "Above 4G" setting in their bios? I am being told that my cheapy 1 to 4 expansion card has a PLX chip on it. But I haven't been able to get past 6 gpu's on two different Asus MB's. I ordered a 1 to 8 card on the off chance...


Tom,

My Gigabyte X570 Ultra has the "Above 4G" setting. Kinda of a pricey board for just that feature. Perhaps some the other Gigabyte boards for Ryzen also have this feature. Not really sure how to check.

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Thank you for the pointer. It seems to be my hanging point....

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Message 2028430 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 2:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 2028420.  

Unless you trimmed a lot of the sensors outputs, that doesn't look correct for the output of asus-wmi-sensors. The Tsensor1 for example should be +216°C. for an unterminated input.
Try running sensors -u for the raw sensor outputs idents.


I agree it seems to be missing about half of what I was expecting. Lets see now....

tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sensors -u
asus-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
cpu_fan:
  fan1_input: 0.000

asuswmisensors-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
CPU Core Voltage:
  in0_input: 1.188
+12V Voltage:
  in1_input: 12.034
+5V Voltage:
  in2_input: 4.987
3VSB Voltage:
  in3_input: 3.314
CPU Fan:
  fan1_input: 3096.000
Chassis Fan 1:
  fan2_input: 0.000
Chassis Fan 2:
  fan3_input: 0.000
Chassis Fan 3:
  fan4_input: 0.000
AIO Pump:
  fan5_input: 0.000
Water Pump:
  fan6_input: 0.000
CPU OPT:
  fan7_input: 0.000
CPU Temperature:
  temp1_input: 82.000
Motherboard Temperature:
  temp2_input: 42.000
Chipset Temperature:
  temp3_input: 0.000
Tsensor 1 Temperature:
  temp4_input: 0.000

tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ 


tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo sensors-detect
# sensors-detect revision 6284 (2015-05-31 14:00:33 +0200)
# Board: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME X470-PRO
# Kernel: 4.15.0-74-generic x86_64
# Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (23/113/0)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): y
Module cpuid loaded successfully.
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595...                       No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors...                          No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors...                            No
AMD K8 thermal sensors...                                   No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 12h and 14h thermal sensors...                   No
AMD Family 15h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 16h thermal sensors...                           No
AMD Family 15h power sensors...                             No
AMD Family 16h power sensors...                             No
Intel digital thermal sensor...                             No
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor...                         No
Intel 5500/5520/X58 thermal sensor...                       No
VIA C7 thermal sensor...                                    No
VIA Nano thermal sensor...                                  No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no): y
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x2e/0x2f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      Yes
Found unknown chip with ID 0x8665
    (logical device 4 has address 0x290, could be sensors)
Probing for Super-I/O at 0x4e/0x4f
Trying family `National Semiconductor/ITE'...               No
Trying family `SMSC'...                                     No
Trying family `VIA/Winbond/Nuvoton/Fintek'...               No
Trying family `ITE'...                                      No

Some systems (mainly servers) implement IPMI, a set of common interfaces
through which system health data may be retrieved, amongst other things.
We first try to get the information from SMBIOS. If we don't find it
there, we have to read from arbitrary I/O ports to probe for such
interfaces. This is normally safe. Do you want to scan for IPMI
interfaces? (YES/no): y
Probing for `IPMI BMC KCS' at 0xca0...                      No
Probing for `IPMI BMC SMIC' at 0xca8...                     No

Some hardware monitoring chips are accessible through the ISA I/O ports.
We have to write to arbitrary I/O ports to probe them. This is usually
safe though. Yes, you do have ISA I/O ports even if you do not have any
ISA slots! Do you want to scan the ISA I/O ports? (YES/no): y
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' at 0x290...       No
Probing for `Winbond W83781D' at 0x290...                   No
Probing for `Winbond W83782D' at 0x290...                   No

Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no): y
Found unknown SMBus adapter 1022:790b at 0000:00:14.0.
Sorry, no supported PCI bus adapters found.

Next adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter port 0 at 0b00 (i2c-0)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y
Client found at address 0x52
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 No
Client found at address 0x53
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1033'...                     No
Probing for `Analog Devices ADM1034'...                     No
Probing for `SPD EEPROM'...                                 No

Next adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter port 2 at 0b00 (i2c-1)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y

Next adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter port 3 at 0b00 (i2c-2)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y

Next adapter: SMBus PIIX4 adapter port 4 at 0b00 (i2c-3)
Do you want to scan it? (YES/no/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 1 at 8:00.0 (i2c-4)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at 8:00.0 (i2c-5)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 4 at 8:00.0 (i2c-6)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 6 at 8:00.0 (i2c-7)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 7 at 8:00.0 (i2c-8)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 8 at 8:00.0 (i2c-9)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 9 at 8:00.0 (i2c-10)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 1 at d:00.0 (i2c-11)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at d:00.0 (i2c-12)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 4 at d:00.0 (i2c-13)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 6 at d:00.0 (i2c-14)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 7 at d:00.0 (i2c-15)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 8 at d:00.0 (i2c-16)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 9 at d:00.0 (i2c-17)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 1 at e:00.0 (i2c-18)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 2 at e:00.0 (i2c-19)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 4 at e:00.0 (i2c-20)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 6 at e:00.0 (i2c-21)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 7 at e:00.0 (i2c-22)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 8 at e:00.0 (i2c-23)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Next adapter: NVIDIA i2c adapter 9 at e:00.0 (i2c-24)
Do you want to scan it? (yes/NO/selectively): y

Sorry, no sensors were detected.
Either your system has no sensors, or they are not supported, or
they are connected to an I2C or SMBus adapter that is not
supported. If you find out what chips are on your board, check
http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Devices for driver status.
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ 


I am certainly unclear here.

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Message 2028432 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 2:16:49 UTC
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Not sure if this is the right place amongst all the motherboard/mainboard/BIOS talk but here's an interesting article for some of the discussion points:


Talking Threadripper 3990X With AMD's Robert Hallock

... Intel is woefully incapable of responding to AMD's existing 32-core Threadripper 3970X, so dropping the 64-core 3990X is akin to delivering a killing blow in HEDT: AMD says this single processor can outperform two of Intel's $10,000 Xeon 8280's in some workloads...

... AMD noticed that customers tend to jump right to the top of the stack or choose the "sweet spot" product...

... Hallock explained that the bottleneck "suddenly shifts to really weird places once you start to increase the core counts." Some areas that typically aren't a restriction, like disk I/O, can hamper performance in high core-count machines. For instance, development houses exclude project files from Windows Defender to reduce the impact of disk I/O during compile workloads.

Hallock doesn't see memory throughput as a limitation in the majority of workloads, but told us that memory capacity per core is actually one of the biggest challenges. As a result, Hallock said that compile workloads require a bare minimum of 1GB per core (64GB total), and that 2GB (128GB total) is better...

... AMD has also made architectural decisions to keep data on-chip, like an almost unthinkable 288MB of total cache, a third AGU (Address Generation Unit), and larger opcaches, among other changes, that help keep data in the caches...

... AMD's official launch date lands on February 7, 2020...




Happy fast cool crunchin'!
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Message 2028433 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 2:17:23 UTC - in response to Message 2028391.  

Forget dkms, just install it.
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~$ sudo make install

You can go back later and install dkms.

tlgalenson@moonshot4:~/asus-wmi-sensors$ sudo make install
mkdir -p /lib/modules/4.15.0-74-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon
cp asus-wmi-sensors.ko /lib/modules/4.15.0-74-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/
cp: cannot stat 'asus-wmi-sensors.ko': No such file or directory
Makefile:80: recipe for target 'modules_install' failed
make: *** [modules_install] Error 1
tlgalenson@moonshot4:~/asus-wmi-sensors$ 

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Message 2028445 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 4:54:26 UTC - in response to Message 2028422.  

Yes, the list looked like EVERY MSI board offers "Above 4G decoding" ASUS rarely it appears.
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Message 2028447 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 5:01:38 UTC - in response to Message 2028430.  

The output of sensors-detect is as expected. It can't install anything for the ITE8665E SIO chip. That is why we always have to install 3rd party out of branch drivers like it87 or asus-wmi-sensors.
All it is useful for is showing that an ITE SIO chip is found at ISA address 0290.
Why don't you ask for help on the asus-wmi-driver support page. It says the X470 Prime Pro is supported. Do you have the requisite BIOS version?
https://github.com/electrified/asus-wmi-sensors
Prime X470-Pro BIOS 4602
Ask others with the X470 Prime Pro if your outputs are the same as theirs.
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Message 2028464 - Posted: 19 Jan 2020, 10:44:23 UTC - in response to Message 2028432.  

ot sure if this is the right place amongst all the motherboard/mainboard/BIOS talk but here's an interesting article for some of the discussion points:


Talking Threadripper 3990X With AMD's Robert Hallock

... Intel is woefully incapable of responding to AMD's existing 32-core Threadripper 3970X, so dropping the 64-core 3990X is akin to delivering a killing blow in HEDT: AMD says this single processor can outperform two of Intel's $10,000 Xeon 8280's in some workloads...

... AMD noticed that customers tend to jump right to the top of the stack or choose the "sweet spot" product...

... Hallock explained that the bottleneck "suddenly shifts to really weird places once you start to increase the core counts." Some areas that typically aren't a restriction, like disk I/O, can hamper performance in high core-count machines. For instance, development houses exclude project files from Windows Defender to reduce the impact of disk I/O during compile workloads.

Hallock doesn't see memory throughput as a limitation in the majority of workloads, but told us that memory capacity per core is actually one of the biggest challenges. As a result, Hallock said that compile workloads require a bare minimum of 1GB per core (64GB total), and that 2GB (128GB total) is better...

... AMD has also made architectural decisions to keep data on-chip, like an almost unthinkable 288MB of total cache, a third AGU (Address Generation Unit), and larger opcaches, among other changes, that help keep data in the caches...

... AMD's official launch date lands on February 7, 2020...



Happy fast cool crunchin'!
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True the disruptive thing that AMD has managed in de cpu world is beyond our imagination. if you asked people 4 years ago how many cores would we have on mainstream and hedt nobody would had responed with 16 cores or 64.

What most reviewers failed to address here is de multi processing power almost all viewers always look ad gaming even on the hedt cpu's while content workloads and scientific workloads are mostly forgotten. But for us seti users this core race is only good my ryzen 3700x is had the same computing power as 2 i7-7700k so comuting powers goes up powerdraw goes down. i could be more exciting for the developments

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The output of sensors-detect is as expected. It can't install anything for the ITE8665E SIO chip. That is why we always have to install 3rd party out of branch drivers like it87 or asus-wmi-sensors.
All it is useful for is showing that an ITE SIO chip is found at ISA address 0290.
Why don't you ask for help on the asus-wmi-driver support page. It says the X470 Prime Pro is supported. Do you have the requisite BIOS version?
https://github.com/electrified/asus-wmi-sensors
Prime X470-Pro BIOS 4602
Ask others with the X470 Prime Pro if your outputs are the same as theirs.


Thank you. Although I am selling the Amd 3900x I still have a 2700x with the Prime MB's name on it. So I am going to be wanting to know what I can do to improve that more limited result.. The Bios is the very latest one for that MB (don't remember the number, the box is in the other room). Took that to get the 3900x to run.

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Message 2028643 - Posted: 20 Jan 2020, 14:38:40 UTC - in response to Message 2028432.  

[quote]Not sure if this is the right place amongst all the motherboard/mainboard/BIOS talk but here's an interesting article for some of the discussion points:


Talking Threadripper 3990X With AMD's Robert Hallock


And in this article it perhaps explains why there is no octal memory channel version in that AMD are endeavouring to maintain the differential between the 3990 and the EPYC brand to justify the increased price. Thus it is not that they cannot it is that they will not.
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