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Message 1965708 - Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 0:24:41 UTC - in response to Message 1965548.  
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Hi Wiggo,

Just another confirmation of what people who believe in people and economy destroying Socialism believe.

The millions of people, some at risk to their lives, attempting to flee similar Ruling Class Systems you support may disagree.


Where are the hordes of Nordic refugees fleeing Scandinavian socialist states hiding?
CNN hasn't found the refugee camps anywhere and not one boat load has shown up on our shores.
You need to rethink your position.

Dear Robert Waite,

In a socialist country, the ownership and producing of private goods and dispersing of these private goods is the Socialist mantra.

Sweden is export-oriented mixed economy, including a Capitalist Social Welfare State. Not a Socialist Paradise [sic]

The fabrication that Sweden is truly Socialist. Is used by Socialists in their attempt to persuade people that True Socialism is not people and economy destroying.

Sincerely, Clyde "Liberal" who is a proponent of a Social Welfare State.
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Message 1965712 - Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 0:41:26 UTC - in response to Message 1965688.  
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BBC: Three myths about Florida elections recount

They aren't myths to the orange one or his followers

The Florida recount, including the 2 minute late filing from the Democrat controlled Broward County Election Commission, gives no hope for the Democrat running for Governor. And gives almost no hope for the incumbent Democrat Senator attempting to get re-elected.

Add the Republican winning the Georgia Governorship.

However, I would opine that Trump and the Republicans should be very worried.
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Message 1965898 - Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 19:27:15 UTC - in response to Message 1965548.  
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Hi Wiggo,

Just another confirmation of what people who believe in people and economy destroying Socialism believe.

The millions of people, some at risk to their lives, attempting to flee similar Ruling Class Systems you support may disagree.


Where are the hordes of Nordic refugees fleeing Scandinavian socialist states hiding?
CNN hasn't found the refugee camps anywhere and not one boat load has shown up on our shores.
You need to rethink your position.


Dear Robert [ed]Waite[/ed - fixed typo],

Comments like:

In a socialist country, the ownership and producing of private goods and dispersing of these private goods is the Socialist mantra.

Sweden is export-oriented mixed economy, including a Capitalist Social Welfare State. Not a Socialist Paradise [sic]

The fabrication that Sweden is truly Socialist. Is used by Socialists in their attempt to persuade people that True Socialism is not people and economy destroying.


are written by people that assume their definition of the word socialist is the only valid definition. There are others in this nation that state with conviction that the united states is "a republic not a democracy", seemingly not realizing that the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive (or rather only accepting the definition of these terms provided by Madison in Federalist 10) . Like Madison's notion of "pure democracy", "True Socialism" is a fiction, used to frame a straw man argument. As you've no doubt found, there's often little to be gained by engaging with the person making such an argument.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1965901 - Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 19:33:57 UTC - in response to Message 1965898.  

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Hi Wiggo,

Just another confirmation of what people who believe in people and economy destroying Socialism believe.

The millions of people, some at risk to their lives, attempting to flee similar Ruling Class Systems you support may disagree.


Where are the hordes of Nordic refugees fleeing Scandinavian socialist states hiding?
CNN hasn't found the refugee camps anywhere and not one boat load has shown up on our shores.
You need to rethink your position.


Dear Robert White,

Comments like:

In a socialist country, the ownership and producing of private goods and dispersing of these private goods is the Socialist mantra.

Sweden is export-oriented mixed economy, including a Capitalist Social Welfare State. Not a Socialist Paradise [sic]

The fabrication that Sweden is truly Socialist. Is used by Socialists in their attempt to persuade people that True Socialism is not people and economy destroying.


are written by people that assume their definition of the word socialist is the only valid definition. There are others in this nation that state with conviction that the united states is "a republic not a democracy", seemingly not realizing that the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive (or rather only accepting the definition of these terms provided by Madison in Federalist 10) . Like Madison's notion of "pure democracy", "True Socialism" is a fiction, used to frame a straw man argument. As you've no doubt found, there's often little to be gained by engaging with the person making such an argument.

There are people on this board that have stated that.
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Message 1965914 - Posted: 17 Nov 2018, 20:57:20 UTC - in response to Message 1965548.  

.Where are the hordes of Nordic refugees fleeing Scandinavian socialist states hiding?
Between about 1850 and 1910 one third of the Swedish population fled to America.
Among other people from the Nordic countries of course.
The will of survival or perhaps to get a better life is very strong.
Just like today when the US get "invaded" from South America.
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Message 1966087 - Posted: 18 Nov 2018, 23:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 1965914.  

.Where are the hordes of Nordic refugees fleeing Scandinavian socialist states hiding?
Between about 1850 and 1910 one third of the Swedish population fled to America.
Among other people from the Nordic countries of course.
The will of survival or perhaps to get a better life is very strong.
Just like today when the US get "invaded" from South America.

Include my mothers side. Where her father's mother and family immigrated from Sweden in the late 1880's.

We have a beautiful portrait picture of her when she was in her early twenties. We also have the last picture taken of her when she was 90 holding a newborn baby - me.

She died a few months later.
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