So I should just be able to install this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-4GB-OC-GDDR5-Graphics-Card/401492180342?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D55148%26meid%3D5e49e5651dfb45bdaf7dc7b228f347f9%26pid%3D100505%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D401492180342&_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MSI-nVidia-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-Gaming-X-4GB-Graphics-Video-Card/253915895074?hash=item3b1e911522:g:w~4AAOSwcWJbtl1v:rk:2:pf:0
or
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zotac-GeForce-GTX-1050Ti-4GB-Mini-NEW-Lowest-please-read/123371980601?epid=17010535760&hash=item1cb98b0739:g:nesAAOSwUb5bnYbu:rk:3:pf:0
and off she goes?
TIA

Made your links "clickable".


PS Unless you are short on space I would avoid the "mini" . Might be OK for occasional gaming but SETI@Home may just stress it a bit too much

OK thanks Bernie

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Looking at Card #2, the Gaming one, it sure appears that it is 2.1 slots wide by the end view picture.
This could cause problems it you have another card against the fans foe clearance.

You would have to check the specs on that, if it is an issue.

Thanks again Brent

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Had a look inside the TU just now and figured out how to change the graphics card after watching some YouTube videos
I propose to fit a 1050 or 1050 ti but is there any benefit in upgrading the:
a) HDD 300 GB drive
or
b) the 6 x 2 GB RAM cards?
TIA
George

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is there any benefit in upgrading the:
a) HDD 300 GB drive

Replacing that with even a basic SSD (Solid State Drive) will make the system so much faster & more responsive.
Anything Samsung is good, but they tend to be expensive. The Crucial MX500 series (500GB and upwards) give good performance at a reasonable price.

b) the 6 x 2 GB RAM cards?

Not really, depending on what you do with the system. I've got 16GB of RAM on my 2 systems, and unless I've doing all sorts of things actual usage is generally around 3-3.5GB.

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Grant
Darwin NT

The HDD won't matter at all since (I believe) this was a headless system for crunching only. It would have no affect on seti, just boot up time really for it's use.

The RAM should be fine as well for Win 7.

Brent/Grant
Thanks for your prompt replies. Yes my TU is a "headless" system for crunching WUs.
Regards
George

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Run Time vs CPU Time
Scanned through some of the completed WUs on my TU (for which I have now ordered a 1050 ti) and current run times are around 4,500 - 5,000 seconds or say an hour plus. The occasional WU takes a bit longer but that doesn't worry me.
The odd WU has a much shorter run time? For example from 12 - 16 November, one completed WU: 7138484771417 - 3214523542 shows Run Time of 2306.39 s but CPU Time of only 129 s with credit of 63.73, a typical figure for WUs on this machine. The application is stated as: SETI@home v.8 v.8.00 cuda32 windows Intelx86
Can someone explain the difference please?
TIA
George

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A CUDA application runs practically all the scientific calculations on the GPU (your existing Quadro). It is also very efficient in only running minimal housekeeping work on the CPU, leaving it free to do other things for 95% of the time.

When you get your new 1050 Ti, you may see many more jobs like this. But you may also see jobs described as OpenCL. The overall run time of these jobs will be short, like the CUDA jobs, but their use of the CPU is much less efficient - there won't be CPU time left over for other things.

Richard

Thank you for the prompt reply.
If I have understood this correctly, after installing the 1050 ti, the OpenCL jobs which are less efficient where use of the CPU is concerned do not really matter since the TU only crunches WU?
Just a thought, but what would I need to change the TU from a "headless" machine to one which would be a common functioning computer - like the first one I bought twenty years ago?
TIA
George

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Richard

Thank you for the prompt reply.
If I have understood this correctly, after installing the 1050 ti, the OpenCL jobs which are less efficient where use of the CPU is concerned do not really matter since the TU only crunches WU?
Just a thought, but what would I need to change the TU from a "headless" machine to one which would be a common functioning computer - like the first one I bought twenty years ago?
TIA
George

The 1050TI, (like the 750TI, 850TI, and 950TI Cards before them), typically come with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM. As long as you are NOT running Linux with TBar's/Petri's new CUDA90 App, 2GB will work with a monitor attached... HOWEVER; if you take the plunge to Linux and running the new Special CUDA90 App, it has been told to me that 2GB VRAM is NOT enough to Crunch units AND Display ANY video on a monitor at the same time due to the overhead of VRAM taken for the Display.

For Windows use, and even installing the Lunatics 0.45 Beta 6 App, 2GB VRAM should work OK with a monitor attached. (Essentially, 3GB VRAM or greater is better for modern Systems with Number Crunching Apps. But, for me, price is a factor due to limited income, therefore ALL my cards ONLY have 2GB VRAM.)

[EDIT:]

My main Cruncher is a Mac Pro 5,1 with TWO GPUs. One Mac ATI HD-5770 connected to a 23" Apple Cinema Display - this GPU does NOT crunch. One EVGA GTX-1050 as a secondary GPU, NO Monitor attached - this GPU crunches.

I'm making use of TBar's Mac CUDA90 App on the 1050 Card.


ymmv


TL

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Richard

Thank you for the prompt reply.
If I have understood this correctly, after installing the 1050 ti, the OpenCL jobs which are less efficient where use of the CPU is concerned do not really matter since the TU only crunches WU?
Just a thought, but what would I need to change the TU from a "headless" machine to one which would be a common functioning computer - like the first one I bought twenty years ago?
TIA
George

The 1050TI, (like the 750TI, 850TI, and 950TI Cards before them), typically come with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM. As long as you are NOT running Linux with TBar's/Petri's new CUDA90 App, 2GB will work with a monitor attached... HOWEVER; if you take the plunge to Linux and running the new Special CUDA90 App, it has been told to me that 2GB VRAM is NOT enough to Crunch units AND Display ANY video on a monitor at the same time due to the overhead of VRAM taken for the Display.

For Windows use, and even installing the Lunatics 0.45 Beta 6 App, 2GB VRAM should work OK with a monitor attached. (Essentially, 3GB VRAM or greater is better for modern Systems with Number Crunching Apps. But, for me, price is a factor due to limited income, therefore ALL my cards ONLY have 2GB VRAM.)

[EDIT:]

My main Cruncher is a Mac Pro 5,1 with TWO GPUs. One Mac ATI HD-5770 connected to a 23" Apple Cinema Display - this GPU does NOT crunch. One EVGA GTX-1050 as a secondary GPU, NO Monitor attached - this GPU crunches.

I'm making use of TBar's Mac CUDA90 App on the 1050 Card.


ymmv


TL

Hi Timelord,

I'm running a GTX 1050Ti SSC card and it has 4 GB of GDDR5 VRAM.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Thank you Time Lord!
Crikey I am old enough to remember the original Dr Who in B&W...
Will fit the new graphics card and see what difference it makes
Regards
George

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Hi
I have had the NVIDIA Gaming Graphic card 1050 ti in for 3 days now. The GPU details don't show up in the GPU column though?
It crunches WUs in around 4,600 seconds and the range of times taken is more more consistent than with the previous QUADRO 5000.
Credits on BOINCSTAT are weirdly low though?
My laptops show 8,000 to 11,000 seconds per WU.
Best of all though, the electricity consumption is much less meaning that I can afford to run the TU most of the time - it acts as a good backgroud heater in my cold flat in north London in winter.
If Raistmer does not want the old 5000 for testing, I will sell it on eBay.
Thanks for all your help guys.
George

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The GPU details don't show up in the GPU column though?

Then you are not crunching on the 1050ti

4,600 seconds in 1 hour 16 minutes, that is way too long I would expect around 15 minutes.

My old GT640 is taking around 3,500 which is 58 minutes.

Your Intel GPU is taking around 4,600 so I assume that is what you are seeing.

Did you install drivers from Nvidia?

I have had the NVIDIA Gaming Graphic card 1050 ti in for 3 days now. The GPU details don't show up in the GPU column though?

As Bernie said, it might be in the computer, but it's not running.
You did uninstall the old driver & installed new drivers from Nvidia (do not use Driver updaters or the Windows driver updater)?
eg GTX 1050Ti Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Windows 8 64-bit

And I would suggest disabling the iGPU on your i7-3520M system & see how much it's CPU processing times improve when not processing work on the iGPU.
In your account, Seti@home settings, unselect "Use Intel GPU" Save and update.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Given the same speeds, 5 vs 6 Compute Units, the Ti should be a 20% fast cruncher.

My Asus 970 Turbo has a compute capability of 5.2, I'm doing 1 gpu wu in just less than 8mins while the cpu is doing wu's in about 54mins @3.7GHz and 3.7GHz is the stock speed.

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Dear Grant/Bernie
Yesterday, I loaded the driver CD which came with the unit:TYT-11582, ver.337.88 win 7 64 (has others too but my system is 64 bit)
I rebooted the TU too. Tried switching the iGPU on SETI@home settings, no difference. Then unselected all the other except the CPU, no difference.
So I have a brand new GPU in my TU that does not seem to be doing anything?
I have twice reloaded the CD into CD drive. It wurrs a bit and the green light flashes but the nothing?
Help please.
George

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Get the latest driver from NVIDIA
https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
And do a "Clean Install."