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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
---Edit------- I just re-read your previous message which addressed my question(s) ----------------------------- I guess I need to borrow that Kiliwatt meter and see how far an 850 watt PSU will go in this gtx 1060 3GB/gtx 750Ti experiment. And see how to rig my cables to both drive the top power cable connectors as well as the expander board(s) power. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Ghan-buri-Ghan Mike Send message Joined: 27 Dec 15 Posts: 123 Credit: 92,602,985 RAC: 172 |
I noted the outlet meltdown mentioned earlier in the post. I recently added two new 20 amp circuits (in 2 different buildings) to handle the growth in my stable of systems. Standard residential duplex outlets come in different ratings (15, 20 and 30 amp are common). Most tract residential construction has used 15 amp rated outlets, and they look identical (from the front) to 20 amp duplexes. The only way to distinguish between then is the rating which is cast or stamped on the outlet reverse side. Also, the outlet needs to be consistent with the circuit breaker on that branch circuit. Putting a 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp breaker is a recipe for trouble. Switching out to a higher breaker won't always solve the problem, even if you match the breaker and outlet, because the conductor needs to be sized to the load. Many older tract homes might only use 14 gauge wire as opposed to 12 gauge, because it was less expensive. Depending on the length of the wire run, the gauge then becomes a limiting factor. You burn the wire in the wall while the outlet and breaker chug along just fine. When in doubt, consult an electrician. |
Tod Send message Joined: 17 Apr 99 Posts: 27 Credit: 143,685,603 RAC: 0 |
Awesome post with some great info. With the collapse of all the 'coin' mining, this type of hardware is pretty cheap on ebay. |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Well, I got up to 3 GPUs on what is a 2 full slot MB (with two short slots). And then noticed I don't have enough places to plug in my jury-rigged power cables :) Guess I am going to have to borrow the PSU from my 2990wx rig after the CPU finishes its auction on eBay (Thursday) or earlier after I get done processing all the tasks in the cache. In theory, I can try up to 6 GPUs if I can get the power for them. The other PCIe extender hasn't come in yet :( Since this is not a Miner motherboard I don't know what the results will be until I plug it together and try. Once I have gotten a "final" version up and running and the table it is sitting on cleaned off, I promise a picture ;) This is a box that runs a mix of BOINC projects (Seti, Seti beta, World Community Grid, Rosetti@Home, Mind Modeling and Einstein@home (sometimes)). The gpu's are Seti only. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8565979 Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Well, I got up to 3 GPUs on what is a 2 full slot MB (with two short slots). And then noticed I don't have enough places to plug in my jury-rigged power cables :) Well, it is running 5 gpus. The bios popped up and said "insufficient PCIe resources, please remove 1 card. Have disabled one card". If you want to continue booting do save/discard exit. I have 6 GPUs plugged in 2 on the MB and 4 via the expansion board. Tried enabling the "use over 64" for decoding, apparently didn't help. It is funny really. The PSU (1600 watts) didn't start spinning till it got slightly warm :) Well, I wanted to "bump my nose" against the gpu limit that everyone else has been experiencing and I think I just did. I will try doing a reset to "default" (aka: "load optimized settings") and see if that helps. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Looks like it is a hard limit. Not sure if it is MB hard limit or bios hard limit. Since this is a "generic" X79 (or something like that) MB I don't think I am going to be able to find a bios update. So I guess the next question is just how high the Seti RAC will go with 5 GPUs and a mixed load (including Seti) on the cpu. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I think you can count on one hand the number of hosts running multiple gpu card systems over the normal four on mining boards or on extender cables and have them running normally. At least that is what it appears to be the case from my quick perusal of the first few pages in the Top 100 list. Seems to be a difficult task to achieve. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
lunkerlander Send message Joined: 23 Jul 18 Posts: 82 Credit: 1,353,232 RAC: 4 |
This thread needs more love!!! I was browsing on Youtube for SETI videos and your computer setup with 4 titan Xps being converted to water cooling came up. I watched it. It looked like a neat project! |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Just stop trying to use that chinese “x79†board for anything but a basic setup. It’s going to be nothing but problems. If you want a multi-GPU setup, you’re better off just using a standard Z270 board like I am. Or get a mining board if you want more than like 7 GPUs. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
If I want to re-use the e50270 v1 cpu (Lga 2011) and maybe go with a miners rack so there is no size constraint have you had better luck with anything? Like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-EATX-Extended-ATX-DDR3-1600-LGA-2011-Motherboard-X9DRH-ITF-O/192735767457?epid=23026376286&hash=item2cdff26ba1:g:bm4AAOSwa~Fb-VB9:rk:9:pf:0&LH_BIN=1? It has 7 PCIe slots. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
You know. It just dawned on me I have a high-end server motherboard running here that all I have to do is upgrade the PSU and I can try playing with at least 7 GPUs. First I have to install my 1600 watt psu and then set it up on the bench with the side off so I can get at one of the slots. It has run 3 gpus and left a slot uncovered before. Hmmmmm. I already have another gtx 1070Ti on order for it. I wonder if I can get two 1070Ti's and 5 1060 3GB's to play nicely. :) Probably not. But at least all I have to do is spend some time not yet more money :) Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I did install the 1600 watt PSU and after a lot of variations on the theme it only runs 3 discrete gpu cards w/without the internal gpu enabled/disabled. So that box is now running 2 Gtx 1070Ti's and a Gtx 1060 3GB. Without trying a new MB the only upgrade left on it will be a 3rd gtx 170Ti (Zotac, because they are light and the slot is a 1x). http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8610031 Since I actually managed to get more gpus (5) running on my generic x79 I may go back and put that into production if I can figure out the power wiring solution that will plug into the PSU. I don't want to use my 2nd 1600 Watt PSU on it. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
I set out to recreate the above box with an 850 watt PSU because I didn't want to tie down my 2nd 1600 watt PSU. No dice. It won't boot with more than 2 Gtx 1060's installed. Guess I will have to use my 2nd 1600 watt PSU if I want to go back up to 5 gpus on this box https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8565979 Probably don't have time till Tuesday. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Ok, finally adding a picture of my 9 gpu hardware setup. I am perfectly aware that this is not a pretty rig. Here is a link https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PWJ5gCp2vWIz9kZ-w4FAWs835AI3wRZSRQ Apparently getting it to display requires something I am not figuring out yet. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Apparently getting it to display requires something I am not figuring out yet. I'd like to figure it out too. I used to be able to post an image on a hosting site, but not now apparently. All you see is the placeholder icon now. I did find out all you have to do to open the image is right-click the placeholder icon in the post and open it in another tab. But why did the behavior change? Something to do with the forum software or the browser I assume. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
All the pics I host on imgur seem to post properly. Maybe something to do with the image being hosted on google drive? Or not using the proper link. You have to use the img tags with the url to the direct image, not the gallery in google Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Ok, finally adding a picture of my 9 gpu hardware setup. I am perfectly aware that this is not a pretty rig. fixed it for you. it's because of Google. to find the direct img URL: http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=PASTE YOU ID HERE you'll be redirected to the direct image. copy and paste it from the address bar Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36828 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Actually when using the image tags your link must end with a .jpg/.bmp/.png/etc for the image to be displayed. ;-) Cheers. |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
Actually when using the image tags your link must end with a .jpg/.bmp/.png/etc for the image to be displayed. ;-) the image i just posted does not end in those file types. google does things differently with direct links to images. here is the direct image URL that is inside the image tags in my previous post. and is displaying just fine in my Firefox browser (doesnt seem to load in iOS/Safari though) https://doc-00-9c-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/i7qnpvbfjt17088uv19pcui53oq9i6r6/5abesao3a7jq51pc2td2u0kfrvc0mpu1/1551060000000/17402175493652966844/16007457166002018431/1PWJ5gCp2vWIz9kZ-w4FAWs835AI3wRZSRQ?e=view&nonce=mqkrfhum3r3r6&user=16007457166002018431&hash=jrmojpun93fhfm5js9gsjn4mm3a8c218 Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5126 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Ok, finally adding a picture of my 9 gpu hardware setup. I am perfectly aware that this is not a pretty rig. At least on the Foxfire I am using under Linux, the image didn't display. But if I can get a direct link with the file name ending in a graphics file it will display? Hmmmmmm...... Let me look around. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
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