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Message 1960485 - Posted: 15 Oct 2018, 23:46:40 UTC

The link works on my computer. It is awesome.
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Message 1960487 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 0:00:37 UTC

The link show ISS just right now over the US west coast. No clouds, Is this for real?
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Message 1960514 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 7:19:50 UTC

I'm still amazed at the "tiny blue dot" image from one of the Voyagers as it passed beyond the orbit of Pluto.
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Message 1960535 - Posted: 16 Oct 2018, 13:13:17 UTC
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In the 'We the Martians' series : The UFO Irony


Mars Science Laboratory Aeroshell with Curiosity Inside

At the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, the Mars Science Laboratory rover, Curiosity, and the spacecraft's descent stage have been enclosed inside the spacecraft's aeroshell. This image, taken Oct. 1, 2011, shows the aeroshell with its heat shield on top.
UFO caught on tape !


Have an agreable and relaxing Tuesday Outage =:)
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Message 1960694 - Posted: 17 Oct 2018, 20:46:56 UTC

Great links, Chris. It's so cool we can still communicate with the Voyagers; and Pierre, your cartoon is so right. ~I've thought the same thing.
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Message 1961189 - Posted: 20 Oct 2018, 17:43:05 UTC

ET is certaintly not here now thats for sure.
https://youtu.be/R1XyqaFuX1o?t=1055
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Message 1961290 - Posted: 21 Oct 2018, 2:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1961189.  
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ET is certaintly not here now thats for sure.
https://youtu.be/R1XyqaFuX1o?t=1055
"Neil deGrasse Tyson Debating Aliens, Time Travel, Speed of Light - Jim Norton & Sam Roberts"
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Message 1961356 - Posted: 21 Oct 2018, 14:28:14 UTC - in response to Message 1961354.  
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By here I meant on Earth of course.
Maybe ET was here in the past but there are no evidences of that either.
Only speculating ideas.
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Message 1961533 - Posted: 22 Oct 2018, 22:07:11 UTC - in response to Message 1961454.  
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The ultimate goal of the Boinc project Seti@Home is to search for evidence of ET. That in turn is based upon the basic belief that ET actually exists in the first place.
The logical outcome of that is to ask the questions is ET out there now, here now, or been here in the past?
If people don't believe in any of it then why are they reading this thread, posting to it, and crunching Seti@Home work units? Facebook is there for social chit chat.
Since you highlighted it.
The Boinc project Seti@Home is an experiment to use distributed computing to search for radio waves that could be of extraterrastial intelligent origin. Nothing more.
Asking questions like ET out there now, here now, or been here in the past?
Only the question if ET out there now can be answered by the SETI quest.
I do believe that life and also intelligent life is out there just at it is here.
Somewhere but apparently very far from us.

But I crunch anyway because we might be lucky:)
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Message 1962457 - Posted: 29 Oct 2018, 20:01:32 UTC - in response to Message 1961533.  
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The ultimate goal of the Boinc project Seti@Home is to search for evidence of ET. ........


Since you highlighted it.
...........
Asking questions like ET out there now, here now, or been here in the past?

Only the question [b][i]if ET out there now
can be answered by the SETI quest.
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But I crunch anyway because we might be lucky:)


To a degree I agree.

There is no way SETI can tell if an alien intelligence can exist at this moment unless aliens are close to our own solar system given the time for radio, light or 'special' waves need to travel from far off places.

The only true thing SETI can express is that aliens did exist at some point or they are close. (Perhaps also that they may be moving at some point if close enough to calculate.)

Of course if a big thing that shouldn't be there is detected by SETI then that might be of interest too.

The question as to aliens are here or have been here is age old. (Chariots of the gods... et al...)

I don't believe so. I think humans have been around this circle many times and our Western constructs of how our world cultures have interacted is historically or intellectually wrong. (We have been more interconnected and faired the seas and journeys better than we think.)

Humans are quite capable of creating their own amazing mysteries even if forgotten in time. (Lets not dismiss our capacities.)

I too look outward in interest and fascination. I also look towards ourselves and our own world.

That's the point of Boinc-ing and doing SETI.
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Message 1962616 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 6:10:02 UTC

If ET was here in the past, even if only once, that would be proof that somehow FTL travel is possible. Unless ET came from Mars, in which case our feeble chemical rockets could have provided the transportation. Of course that possibility requires proof that Mars, not only supported life, it also spawned intelligent life and that life is us.
Of course all of the hard evidence doesn't support the supposition that the earth has had visitors from another place somewhere in space.
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Message 1962654 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 12:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 1962643.  

The Giza pyramids would be almost impossible to be built today, but there they are. Some stones weigh 15 metric tonnes and it was built in 2500BC. Men with ropes and rollers again?


It seems that I just can't stamp out this folklore. The pyramids could easily and quickly be built today. We would use diamond tipped saws to cut the stone. Tractors to pull the blocks on rollers, and ramps to attain the heights required made by bull dozers.

The ancients used oxen, rope pulleys, sleds, log rollers and lubrication (water on sand, animal fat on log rollers). I believe that investigations have shown that there were small gangs of builders --perhaps about 100 men--that were housed near the construction site and were treated very well. The massive blocks were not lifted off the ground but were dragged up ramps.

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The figure at the front of the sled is pouring water on the sand. The image dates to about 2000 BC[/img]
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Message 1962670 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 14:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 1962660.  

One thing I think we can all agree on is that aliens did not build any of these ancient wonders of the world, mankind did. Although how they managed do that thousands of years ago is still controversial.
Yes, mankind did, not Aliens.
Like the Romans "only" 2000 years ago who dragged obelisks, some of these almost 500 tons, all the way from Egypt to Rome.
Then much later in Russia about 1768 the Thunder Stone, originally weighed about 1500 tonnes, the largest stone ever moved by humans. No modern equipment was used and we know that moving it didn’t require alien technology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Horseman#Thunder_Stone
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Message 1962672 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 14:54:31 UTC

What I find amusing is that man today refuses to accept the fact that our ancestors had brains. :-)
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Message 1962679 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 15:37:26 UTC - in response to Message 1962672.  

What I find amusing is that man today refuses to accept the fact that our ancestors had brains. :-)

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Message 1962690 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 16:41:39 UTC

Well, now you are discussing Home Planet, consider this

A long time ago, more generations than I would care to recall we departed Home Planet - you call it "Mars" for one of the inner planets, the one you now call "Earth". We did this because the climate on Home Planet was degrading rapidly, and we considered the Third Inner Planet as looking to be a very promising New Home Planet. Most of our scout ships arrived safely, as did the first of our bulk transfer ships, but the fifth, and largest, suffered a major technical problem and it descended in an uncontrolled manner, hitting the planet in the area you now call "The Gulf of Mexico". This was both to our advantage and disadvantage.
The advantage was that the resultant matter ejection killed off a large proportion of the massive creatures, and cleared the way for our very small remnant to gradually become the dominant species.
The down side was that that was the last ship, and it was carrying over a hundred million of us, plus all our technology support equipment.
But we survived and prospered. We hid for many generations below the surface, eventually we emerged in the area you call "Africa" as a very "primative" race.

So are you an "alien" or not?
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Message 1962691 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 17:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 1962672.  

What I find amusing is that man today refuses to accept the fact that our ancestors had brains. :-)
And there is even some who believes that we don't have ancestors older than about 6000 years old:)
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Message 1962693 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 17:21:37 UTC


The mind is a weird and mysterious place
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Message 1962694 - Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 17:23:33 UTC - in response to Message 1962691.  

It is well known in some circles that the Earth is only 6000 yrs old.
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Message 1963933 - Posted: 8 Nov 2018, 16:06:25 UTC

Something to be on the lookout for. :-)

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