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Message 2135805 - Posted: 13 May 2024, 23:48:50 UTC

And they wonder why their congregations are shrinking fast.

Catholic archbishop's denouncement of 'transgender lobby', legal abortion, euthanasia, same-sex marriage, heavily criticised.

A letter to the parents of Catholic school students in Tasmania detailing a list of grievances by the archbishop, including that the church "cannot stand as we experience our freedoms being taken from us", has been criticised by politicians and LGBTIQA+ advocates.

The letter, titled "We are Salt to the Earth" and dated May 2, was first sent to Guilford Young College students last week, but has since been forwarded to at least four other Catholic schools in the state.

Archbishop Julian Porteous takes aim at "radicalised transgender lobby" groups, legal abortion access, voluntary assisted dying and euthanasia, same-sex marriage, and more.

"What we are now witnessing in our Australian society is the imposition of certain ideological positions on social and moral questions by means of legislation," the archbishop wrote.

"Over the last 30-40 years we have witnessed an organised campaign to overturn the traditional Christian understanding of sex and sexuality in western society. This activist work culminated in the 2017 change to the legal definition of marriage to allow same sex couples to marry, following a public plebiscite."

Archbishop Porteous said: "Since this time we have seen the growth in what has been referred to as the 'woke' movement, seeking to overturn other traditional values and beliefs."........
And we all know that when salt is added to arable land it becomes infertile.
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Message 2137041 - Posted: 13 Jun 2024, 7:10:39 UTC

It does make more sense that he was a religious terrorist nutter than what he's portrayed to be.

A mislabeled fragment of Egyptian papyrus tucked away in a German library has blown apart thousand-year-old perceptions about the Bible, and Jesus himself.

The Son of God was a terror as a pre-teen.

At least if a newly discovered papyrus about Jesus Christ’s childhood is to be believed.

He fibbed. He tantrumed. He killed.

If so, little wonder the canonical (accepted) Gospels of the Biblical New Testament don’t say much about the Christian messiah’s early years.

The books of Matthew and Luke offer the only accounts of his birth.

Luke adds the story of a 12-year-old messiah-to-be stunning the theologians of the Second Temple in Jerusalem with his deep understanding of Jewish lore.

The Infancy Gospel of Thomas is significantly more comprehensive - and less righteous.

It purports to be an eyewitness account of the juvenile Jesus’ life in Nazareth. By implication, it’s written by his brother Judas Thomas.

This text was one of many put before Christian bishops drawn together from across Europe and the Middle East in 325 AD by Emperor Constantine.

The powerful convert wanted a standardised religion to help unify his rapidly disintegrating Roman Empire.

The 27 books of the New Testament as we know it today, were their final choice.

Dozens of texts claiming to be gospels, letters from the disciples and collections of Jesus’ sayings were rejected......
He likely also stole as well I reckon.
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Message 2137052 - Posted: 13 Jun 2024, 9:14:43 UTC
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The great thing about the age of enlightenment, of criticism of religion, is that Wiggo can dare to write the awaited messiah, founder of christianity is a "religious terrorist nutter". That is no longer a given today. And at least in our country there are many well-known public figures, politicians, cabaret artists, journalists, who have explained that they will no longer publicly express things that concern criticism of religion. They avoid the pressure (or should I say threats?).
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Message 2137069 - Posted: 13 Jun 2024, 14:52:11 UTC - in response to Message 2137041.  

... Except...

The description "Nazareth" and "Nazoreans" didn't come to be written until long after the days of Jesus Christ...

There was however, in his day, a religious group called the Essenes... Hence a very similar sounding "Jesus the Essene"?

See the history of the settlement eventually called Nazareth.

And the rest is history...


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Message 2141534 - Posted: 3 Oct 2024, 8:16:28 UTC

The sooner that this cult of diseased men is sued out of existence the better off the whole world will be.

Catholic Church found liable for historical sexual abuse by Newcastle priest.

A dying man has been awarded more than $500,000 in damages in a landmark case involving the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Diocese of Maitland-Newcastle was found to be directly and vicariously liable for the man's abuse at the hands of a priest who taught scripture 55 years ago.

The man, who for legal reasons can only be referred to as AA, alleged he was abused by Father Ron Pickin at Wallsend High School in the Hunter Valley.

Father Pickin died in 2015.

In a judgement published this week, Acting Supreme Court Justice Monika Schmidt said AA left school in year 10 and "had a difficult life afterwards".

The court heard he was "unable to tell anyone about the abuse, not trusting anyone despite thoughts of the abuse and resulting anxiety having troubled him his whole life".

AA sought damages and was represented by the Sydney law firm Koffels.

“AA is a landmark case in New South Wales, as the first judgement where the courts have found a diocese both negligent and vicariously liable for sexual abuse committed by a Catholic priest," managing counsel Aaron Koffel said.......
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Message 2143022 - Posted: 12 Nov 2024, 19:15:02 UTC

Just the usual reason for the "not" side.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, the spiritual leader of the globe’s 85 million Anglicans, has resigned due to an abuse scandal involving 100 boys.

The spiritual leader of the globe’s 85 million Anglicans has resigned after a child abuse cover up subsumed the church.

Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, wrote to King Charles III to resign his post on Tuesday, UK time.

“Having sought the gracious permission of His Majesty The King, I have decided to resign as Archbishop of Canterbury,” Mr Welby said in a statement.

“I hope this decision makes clear how seriously the Church of England understands the need for change and our profound commitment to creating a safer church.

“As I step down I do so in sorrow with all victims and survivors of abuse.”.......
He didn't show much sorrow for the victims when he should have, it's a bit too late now, but a very lengthy jail term wouldn't hurt for these creeps.
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Message 2149100 - Posted: 18 May 2025, 21:54:24 UTC

I can honestly say that I have absolutely no compassion for this mob.

Anglican diocese seeks to sell property to pay child sex abuse claims.

The Anglican Diocese of North Queensland is on the brink of financial collapse as it struggles to pay millions of dollars in compensation to victims of child sexual abuse.

Bishop Keith Joseph has revealed the diocese, which covers more than a third of Queensland, needs to find about $8 million to pay its victims.

The diocese is now preparing a Supreme Court application to formally restructure so it can sell assets to pay the compensation.......
Want to buy a cheap church or 2 in a fire sale?
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Message 2149102 - Posted: 18 May 2025, 22:41:41 UTC - in response to Message 2149100.  
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Want to buy a cheap church or 2 in a fire sale?
It's stupid to sell their religious buildings to raise money. Why don't they sell indulgences instead?

The Catholic Church successfully raised extensive funds this way, during Pope Leo X reign.

Not far from here, in Jüterbog, there's still this old wooden coffer, which one of their most successful traveling salesmen used to collect the many raised coins.
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Message 2149104 - Posted: 18 May 2025, 23:46:50 UTC - in response to Message 2149102.  

Want to buy a cheap church or 2 in a fire sale?
It's stupid to sell their religious buildings to raise money. Why don't they sell indulgences instead?

The Catholic Church successfully raised extensive funds this way, during Pope Leo X reign.

Not far from here, in Jüterbog, there's still this old wooden coffer, which one of their most successful traveling salesmen used to collect the many raised coins.
Most of us Aussies arn't into uselessly "paying for indulgences" (that is a scam in all reality) let alone being all that religious these days compared to many other countries around the world so it's a totally different environment that they must operate in here and even the Catholic Church down under has had to sell its fair share of them.

That likely comes from our short history of European settlement which has a long and deep history of religious criminal activities and coverups in that short time.

The trend of selling off churches actually started here back in the late 70's when the Baptist, Methodist and Presbyterian churches had to combine due to fast falling patronage and of cause incomes with that decline and that trend is still occurring today.

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Message 2149109 - Posted: 19 May 2025, 5:02:28 UTC - in response to Message 2149104.  

The trend of selling off churches actually started here back in the late 70's when the Baptist, Methodist and Presbyterian churches had to combine due to fast falling patronage and of cause incomes with that decline and that trend is still occurring today.
Can you export that to the USA?
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Message 2149898 - Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 6:13:31 UTC

The catholic church just keeps giving us reasons not to believe in sky fairies because it seems that they don't either.

Underneath a patch of grass in the middle of a housing estate is hidden a “dirty little secret” that is about to be exposed to the world.

A quiet, walled patch of grass in the middle of an Irish housing estate is set to reveal the latest disturbing chapter in Ireland’s “mother and baby” home scandal.

Beneath the ground at this peaceful spot in the town of Tuam, 220km west of Dublin, significant quantities of human remains have been identified.

The land, attached to a home run by nuns between 1925 and 1961, was left largely untouched after the institution was knocked down in 1972.

But on Monday, excavation crews will seal off the site before beginning the search for remains next month.

“There are so many babies, children just discarded here,” local historian Catherine Corless told AFP at the site.

It was her discovery of the unmarked mass burial site that led to an Irish Commission of Investigation into the so-called mother and baby homes.

In 2014, the now 71-year-old produced evidence that 796 children, from newborns to a nine-year-old, died at Tuam’s mother and baby home.

Her research pointed to the children’s likely final resting place: a disused septic tank discovered in 1975........
A most unholy bunch they most certainly are.
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Message 2149912 - Posted: 17 Jun 2025, 17:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 2149898.  

Her research pointed to the children’s likely final resting place: a disused septic tank discovered in 1975........

Wouldn't surprise me if there's similar places in the U.S. that have Catholic mass burial sites.
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Message 2149917 - Posted: 18 Jun 2025, 1:05:38 UTC - in response to Message 2149912.  

Her research pointed to the children’s likely final resting place: a disused septic tank discovered in 1975........

Wouldn't surprise me if there's similar places in the U.S. that have Catholic mass burial sites.

Not Catholic. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/odd-fellows-cemetery but work.
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