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Message 1954748 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 2:27:14 UTC
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The reason I am inferring that the system is a former Bit Miner is it appears to be running 13 Gpu's. I can count at least 10 gpus when I examine a task.

They appear to be running stock Seti under Linux. Yes, they are getting there using SOG app!

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Message 1954753 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 2:50:22 UTC

want to post a link to who youre referring to? i dont seem to find that person in the list.

if i sort by credit per day i get all kinds old cruchers when the credit earned was way higher. and if i sort it by avg credit i only see the usual suspects (petri, zalster, keith, juan, etc)
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Message 1954758 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 3:48:02 UTC

Yes, I spotted that one a while back, with the name Wildcard Corp it sorta stands out.
If he ever finds the Special App it's all over. As it is, he is only producing around 200k with the SoG App. He could be producing almost 3 times that much with the Special app.
I've been checking things out and it seems you need a board with at least PCIe Generation Three x1 slots to keep from suffering a slowdown with SETI work. Most of the boards I've seen have only Generation Two x1 slots and are a little slower than the standard x16 slots for SETI work. Even Generation 2 slots are much better than the old Generation One slots though, but still not quite up to the speed of the x16 slots for SETI work. If I ever find a board with actual Generation Three x1 slots, I might be tempted.
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Message 1954761 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 4:12:55 UTC

I see that host earlier too. I think he is just messin' with the drivers.
He has less than 300 tasks In Progress still ...
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Message 1954766 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 4:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 1954761.  
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Well, he is producing almost 200k with the SoG App. To do that you would probably need 5 or 6 1080Ti running 24/7. Look at Mark's machine with Three 1080Ti, he is only producing around 111k with the SoG App, and I'm pretty sure he is running 24/7. Whatever Mr. Wildcard has, it is quite a bit more than Three 1080Ti.
At least it looks that way...
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Message 1954772 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 5:34:36 UTC

That computer (8568434) has 13 GTX1080ti, so should be doing far better than it is - OK, it's only been running since late August, so there is something strangling its performance - run times are looking to be in the expected region, so it's not the GPUs themselves, but possibly something clogging up the PCI lanes on the motherboard??
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Message 1954786 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 7:22:29 UTC - in response to Message 1954772.  

Or maybe some of the GPUs are still mining. Just because he (or she) has nn GPUs, doesn't mean they're all used for SETI - there are other things in life.
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Message 1954809 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 13:06:59 UTC

Ah I found him.

Since he’s running a 7700k, and has 13 GPUs, he’s most likely running the ASUS B250 Mining Expert motherboard, which maxes out at 13 normal GPUs. It has 18 PCIe x1 gen3 slots (6 of which can only be used by mining specific cards) and 1 PCIe x16 gen3

His problem, if he’s even using all of the GPUs for SETI, will be lack of CPU resources. Not enough to feed all those cards. You can get 7-8 cards well fed with that processor but more than that and he’ll see a slowdown with each extra card since the CPU can’t keep up.

One of my mining machines now has 3x 1080ti and 5x 1060s on a normal z270 motherboard. I just need to swap out the processor for an 8-thread chip and it would probably be the fastest single system on SETI at the moment. 8x 1080ti would also do it, but I don’t have enough PSU power currently to support that in a single system. While mining it’s using right about 1050W from the wall, but under SETI would pull 1400-1500ish
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Message 1954878 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 22:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 1954758.  

Yes, I spotted that one a while back, with the name Wildcard Corp it sorta stands out.
If he ever finds the Special App it's all over. As it is, he is only producing around 200k with the SoG App. He could be producing almost 3 times that much with the Special app.
I've been checking things out and it seems you need a board with at least PCIe Generation Three x1 slots to keep from suffering a slowdown with SETI work. Most of the boards I've seen have only Generation Two x1 slots and are a little slower than the standard x16 slots for SETI work. Even Generation 2 slots are much better than the old Generation One slots though, but still not quite up to the speed of the x16 slots for SETI work. If I ever find a board with actual Generation Three x1 slots, I might be tempted.


I've been out for a while. What is the special app?
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Message 1954882 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 22:43:06 UTC - in response to Message 1954753.  

want to post a link to who youre referring to? i dont seem to find that person in the list.

if i sort by credit per day i get all kinds old cruchers when the credit earned was way higher. and if i sort it by avg credit i only see the usual suspects (petri, zalster, keith, juan, etc)


I just looked and can't find him/her/it either. I didn't think you could fall off the leaderboard that fast? The machine was on the first page when I posted the message.

Ah, there he/she/it is:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8568434 Running at #16 at the moment.

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Message 1954883 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 22:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 1954878.  
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I've been out for a while. What is the special app?


John, it is discussed on this thread:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_forum.php?id=10 but you probably want to read the end of the thread first.

It is a Linux only, Nvidia gpu only very major speed up of gpu crunching. You do need at least a GTX 750Ti to process it. I know it is also being processed on GTX 1050Ti's as well as everything above that. I have processed on a GTX 750ti.

A simple setup to use a slightly older version of the CUDA90 product is here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=83274

Once you have a rig running, you can get the very latest TBar compile for "multi-gpu" download it, uncompress it and copy it in over the top of your current Setiathome install on Linux and it should drop your processing time another 40-50% below what you were getting with CUDA90.

I went from about 7 minutes wall clock time under Stock seti to 4-5 minutes under CUDA90. The CUDA91 dropped that to around 2.5 minutes but the data has gotten harder and it is running above 3 minutes now.

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Message 1955132 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 5:36:44 UTC

its cool thru. i had some one offer me a 40 card mining set up. but the person wanted 11 grand for it....
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Message 1955496 - Posted: 15 Sep 2018, 13:00:45 UTC - in response to Message 1955132.  

its cool thru. i had some one offer me a 40 card mining set up. but the person wanted 11 grand for it....


Yeah, I understand the "budget" constraint(s). Don't forget you have limited power circuits too.

I think Wildcard may have stalled at "only" 120,032.08 RAC. If Wildcard has, the question is how long before they try tinkering with it?

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Message 1955573 - Posted: 15 Sep 2018, 21:09:58 UTC

everyone has stalled. because seti stats for everyone havent updated in 2-3 days.

looks like he was floating around 160-200k or so.
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Message 1955582 - Posted: 15 Sep 2018, 21:59:12 UTC - in response to Message 1955573.  

everyone has stalled. because seti stats for everyone havent updated in 2-3 days.

looks like he was floating around 160-200k or so.


I missed that. I wonder how often it happens?

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Message 1955602 - Posted: 15 Sep 2018, 22:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 1955582.  
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I don't ever remember it happening here before. Was told that Seti Beta hasn't had any stats in over a month now.

[Edit] Of course I meant with no obvious hardware failure in the servers. Looks like the cron job or whatever that generates the stats files isn't running now for 3 days.
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Message 1955802 - Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 0:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 1955602.  

I don't ever remember it happening here before. Was told that Seti Beta hasn't had any stats in over a month now.

[Edit] Of course I meant with no obvious hardware failure in the servers. Looks like the cron job or whatever that generates the stats files isn't running now for 3 days.


Well, it seems to have processed again. And my goodness, "Wildcard" has fallen off the first page :|

I am still wondering just how fast/far you can push things on "hardware alone" so to speak. Someone mentioned they thought Wildcard was actually running at 200,000 or so. I wonder why his RAC doesn't seem to be going up?

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Message 1955806 - Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 0:36:50 UTC - in response to Message 1955802.  

Yes, you can thank kittyman for contacting Eric and advising him that the stats generation had failed. Eric ran it manually.
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Message 1955841 - Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 5:15:11 UTC - in response to Message 1955802.  

His RAC never stabilised - it takes weeks for one's RAC to stabilise, not a matter of a few days. Why the difference? - the report of "200k" was based on one of the "credits in last 24 hours" sites, not on RAC as reported by SETI.
Just now the run-times on his GTX1080tis is about double that of my GTX1080s. Taking into account he is running SoG, and I'm running an older (slower) version of Petri's special app I would expect them to be running at about the same rate.
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Message 1955882 - Posted: 17 Sep 2018, 14:31:02 UTC - in response to Message 1955841.  
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His RAC never stabilised - it takes weeks for one's RAC to stabilise, not a matter of a few days. Why the difference? - the report of "200k" was based on one of the "credits in last 24 hours" sites, not on RAC as reported by SETI.
Just now the run-times on his GTX1080tis is about double that of my GTX1080s. Taking into account he is running SoG, and I'm running an older (slower) version of Petri's special app I would expect them to be running at about the same rate.


looks like he's running tasks in about 5mins. which seems right for a 1080ti running a single task at a time on SoG.

My 1080tis on a windows machine (also SoG) does a similar task in 7-8minutes, BUT i'm running 3 at a time. so overall a higher production rate. if i recall it also did around 4-5mins each if running 1 at a time.

If you're running 5minute tasks on a 1080 on the CUDA app, you should look into why it's running so slow. either you're running a very old version, or maybe something is up with the card's/systems optimization. the newest version of the CUDA app can run those tasks in under 90 seconds on a 1080.
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