If you are running the "stock" applications then there is no way.
However, if you decide to go for the "optimised" applications then you can select which applications to use. It is possible to "pretend" to be running optimised applications by creating the two control files (see the number crunching thread for the full gory details), but you have to get the application file names, and that is not exactly easy until you have the files.... It is worth noting that there is no technical difference between tasks dedicated to the CPU, or any of the GPU applications, just that the server has decided that a given task should be processed by a particular class of processor.
You will find that when running stock applications you will get tasks to be processed by particular applications until the system has worked out what application works best on that system, this process can take a few days, and will do some strange things until settled. As Tom says SoG should be the fastest, but for some strange reason that may not be the case for every system that is "on the cusp".

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Okay Tom but there's no way to force what kind of units it gets right?

Interesting.

Also, I reconfigured SUPER32 and as of this morning its a windows box again. The ASRock RACK mobo was just too unstable with Linux.
As you can see I have one AMD card and one GTX 1060 in it. The mobo or BIOS allows me to do this but not two 1060's for some reason.
In any event, you can see that the AMD card is running ~7 minute miles compared to the 1060's 20 minute marathons...
I might try two AMD cards in er when I get home today.
Two work units every 7 min in windows is better than two every 20 minutes.

Your gtx 1060 should be running about 7 minutes or so under Windows with SOG tasks. If it is still running the CUDA42 etc that is why it is running "marathons".

Tom

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Interesting.

Also, I reconfigured SUPER32 and as of this morning its a windows box again. The ASRock RACK mobo was just too unstable with Linux.
As you can see I have one AMD card and one GTX 1060 in it. The mobo or BIOS allows me to do this but not two 1060's for some reason.
In any event, you can see that the AMD card is running ~7 minute miles compared to the 1060's 20 minute marathons...
I might try two AMD cards in er when I get home today.
Two work units every 7 min in windows is better than two every 20 minutes.

Its all to do with Windows preventing a CUDA device doing the most efficient data internal data transfers while maintaining maximum parallel processing and synchronisation performance. I suspect it is more than just a simple library cludge to get Windoze to do the same otherwise the likes of the long lamented Jason would have come up with a fix some time ago.

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There must be some sane reason why no one has developed such a powerhouse app for the windows platform.
Compared to the two-minute units in Linux, Windows stock sucks.
What's the deal? Open source versus Bill's Gates?

My understanding is Petri is using sneaky programming to do less memory read/writes than the stock and less optimized apps do. The problem is something (maybe it's the libraries or something else) won't let that trick be done under windows.

Tom

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There must be some sane reason why no one has developed such a powerhouse app for the windows platform.
Compared to the two minute units in Linux, Windows stock sucks.
Whats the deal? Open source versus Bill's Gates?

It looks like by comparing your Windows boxes CPU results to my fastest Windows box running standard (not the Lunatics distro) yours should be able to get mostly under 2 hours for the CPU tasks. Possibly in the 1.5-hour range.

You should probably keep 1 to 4 CPU cores "idle" to speed up the CPU and probably the gpu processing of the rest.

There are 3 different Windows Seti CPU tasks available and usually, 1 of them will run significantly faster than the others. 8.05(alt) seems to be very popular. The scheduler will offer you all three and start feeding you the one you process the fastest.

Much like in Windows Nvidia video cards it starts with Cuda42 etc.

Tom

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Tried the drop first. If that works, I wont do the 1 to 1 thing with the xml file.

I'm confounded!

The GTX 1060 according to the NVIDIA tool is GEN2.
I thought they were GEN3!

Anyhow for whatever reason, the system is doing units VERY slowly! VERY!

Depends on the motherboard layout and the BIOS. All my Ryzen hosts run any card in the bottom slot as Generation 2 and at X4 PCIe speeds. Not enough lanes to run at X8 or X16 and too many shared interrupts with other mobo devices. Move the bottom slot card to the middle or top slot and it magically turns into its proper Generation 3 specification and speed.

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I'm confounded!

The GTX 1060 according to the NVIDIA tool is GEN2.
I thought they were GEN3!

Anyhow for whatever reason, the system is doing units VERY slowly! VERY!

Try using the local configuration in Boinc Manager to reduce your cpu cores to 90% of the available 100%. That will drop 3-4 threads offline and speed up the rest.
Your gpu is running slowly too. Add the -nobs into the app_info.xml file, save and then restart BOINC. It won't re-read with just a read config command.

The -nobs also might replace putting the 1 core to 1 gpu command in your app_config.xml

<app_config>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v8</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>

<project_max_concurrent>14</project_max_concurrent>

You could also use the "project max" but it is more convenient to use the Bonic manager. Make sure you replicate ALL the other website settings that it offers you.

HTH,
Tom

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(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

My dual Xeon on the ASRock Rack EP2C602-4L/D16 got a bit better after I reset to defaults in the BIOS and unzipped a new copy into the existing BOINC folder.
I noticed right away, unit times were way high so I am going back in to the BIOS and jack the GEN back up to 3.

No matter what I do, I cant get that mobo to accept two 1060 GPU's.

I'm confused.

So is it this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8598977 Windows or

this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8609652 Linux?

Have you checked to see if your bios on the Rock Rack is the latest? Might be you are dealing with a "why we upgraded the bios" issue.

I can't see MB details (unless I am missing something).

It looks like you should have bios version 1.90

Tom

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"I owe", "I owe", "Its off to work I go" (from a bumper sticker on a smallish Mercedes Benz)
(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

I'm confounded!

The GTX 1060 according to the NVIDIA tool is GEN2.
I thought they were GEN3!

Anyhow for whatever reason, the system is doing units VERY slowly! VERY!

By the way, riser or directly plugged in on that odd inability to get more than one GPU working on this ASRock Rack EP2C602-4L/D16.

My dual Xeon on the ASRock Rack EP2C602-4L/D16 got a bit better after I reset to defaults in the BIOS and unzipped a new copy into the existing BOINC folder.
I noticed right away, unit times were way high so I am going back in to the BIOS and jack the GEN back up to 3.

No matter what I do, I cant get that mobo to accept two 1060 GPU's.

I'm confused.

Nope. I took the MINER rig down and have almost all the GPU's in various PC's from the garage. "The farm" as you put it?
I was on the top of the 3rd page and now I'm gone even though my score should have me at the bottom of the 2nd page....

Grrrrr!

What happened to me on the leaderboard?

According to this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?sort=expavg_credit&rev=0&show_all=0&userid=9391749

Your mining rig (I think) is humming along at just short of 58,000 RAC. So with a little luck, a stable system (except when the sun goes down) and so forth, you should end up with a RAC north of 100,000 in the near (but not immediate) future. If you are not going to run it full to the hilt of gpus, you might even have enough cpu cycles leftover to process a few odd tasks the "old fashion way" :)

Once have some stable CPU numbers for the high core boxes you might "install" the 7.4.7? version and see if it speeds up your cpus. It seems like it runs several percents faster on one of my boxes and the box that I am trying to compare to the one Ian&SteveC is running. This one https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8608164

Tom
ps. That "version" is hiding in the docs folder under BOINC and according to the doc it replaces the executables in the root BOINC folder and adds a Library link. And somehow this seems to be speeding up my SSE 4.1 processing on my slower e5-2670 box as well as Ian&SteveC's SSE 4.1 processing on his e5-2690v1 box.

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(on the back of a Semi Tractor) "If you can read this bumper sticker, I've LOST MY TRAILER!"

Make sure you don't have auto-sleep or auto-hibernate on - it could be one of those two "darlings" coming along and stopping BOINC, which would stop the SETI application from running, and maybe then do something to stop it restarting properly.

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Nope, its not a total black screen its the application screen fading to a dark hue.
It does not seem to come back with a mouse move. I turned off the screen auto off.
I get a warning the application has quit do you want to kill it...
I will try the unzipping over the existing but if it goes south I'm putting SUPER32 back to windows to run cores.

What happened to me on the leaderboard?

the screen fading to black is normal. it's just turning off the display and/or locking the screen. should still be cruching in the background and come right back with a wiggle of the mouse or keyboard input. you can disable it in the system settings if you want.

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