There is some fairly good evidence that the technologies, styles, architecture and so on displayed in the Mayan and Incan ruins might have originated in Egypt.

Thor Heyerdahl proved by inference that a raft could have carried settlers to this part of the Americas from the Mediterranean. He actually went across the Pacific Ocean to prove that the Polynesians may have inherited culture and people from South America.

Long ago the ancient civilizations were quite good sailors and boatwrights. Columbus and Leif Erikson may not have been the first across the Atlantic.

Long ago the ancient civilizations were quite good sailors and boatwrights.

A well established fact today.

Columbus and Leif Erikson may not have been the first across the Atlantic.

Brendan the Navigator approx. 500 years before Erikson. Fairy tale or fact? IMV, more plausible than E.T visiting the earth.

My last name is Newton...scarey huh?

The greatest physicist of all times. "Hypotheses non fingo" he said, and many of today's physicists should remember these words before advancing new theories without any evidence.
Tullio

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Giza pyramids are supposed to mirror the three stars of Orion's belt, but careful measurements show that the layout isn't exactly correct. But astronomers have calculated what the layout would have been in 12,000BC, and it fits!! Because over thousands of years the constellations move as observed from earth due to precession. . So that raises two questions. First, who gave mankind that knowledge 14,000 years ago, and second. why did they wait nearly 9000 years before they built them.

That is very curious. I had heard about the Orion connection, but not the bit about the measurements being off in such a way.

It seems pretty clear that the pyramids of Giza and the Nazca symbols were designed to be seen from the air, so why was that? A fairly logical conclusion is that at some time in the future, both civilisations expected their respective gods to return, so they constructed aerial markers to show where their worshippers were.

Too bad they never got to see their creations in person from the air. Or did they?! ;~)

The latest theories are that the last survivors of Atlantis ended up in ancient Egypt and brought knowledge forgotten today. A bit far fetched that one, as there is no hard evidence that Atlantis ever existed, despite the writings of Plato. If it did, scholars think it was Thera. There is no evidence whatsoever on the Atlantic sea bed for any sunken continent, even a small one.

Atlantis has never been a compelling story for me; I need to read more about it.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

yes of course we all know that life on Earth developed from evolution not creationism, but the religious amongst us choose not to want to believe that. Their choice.

Catholics believe in the Big Bang and evolution.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

So do many other religious persons.

If I were an intelligent E.T. and had been monitoring activities on earth I would be tempted to send this message " I am God and most of you men and women have been very naughty. You have one month to clean up your act, because I am on my way back for a follow up visit." end of message.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Best we can do is to keep braodcasting that we are up for contact, and hope they find us and consider us worthy of it.

These boards are a microcosm of the real world & as such, the answer to that is definitely a big NO. Whether or not at the point of contact that will have changed is another matter entirely.

It shows that religion can adapt with scientific knowledge, not collapse.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

Right on Chris. As I have posted before--and others as well--the only effect would be the world's religions updating their myths.

Not to worry...

We'll hear from them by 2099

...shame we won't be around to hear it,

Not to worry...
We'll hear from them by 2099
...shame we won't be around to hear it,

LOL.
It's seems like Michio Kaku has changed his mind since he stated that searching for alien radio communication is futile because they might use broad-band instead of narrow-band that SETI search.
That was some years ago he stated that but now he suddenly also have a timeline when to find an alien signal.
It's impossible to make a timeline when you don't know the odds.
Well there is also the search for dark matter where scientist also has a timeline.
But in that case we know and can observe that there is more matter out there.

Well, Giordano Bruno and Galileo have opposed the Church's doctrine. Bruno was more aggressive, and paid with his life, Galileo was more prudent. A letter of his was recently found at the Royal Society by which he tried to dampen his opposition. Also, the Pope Urbano VIII (Maffeo Barberini) was a friend of Galileo and provided that his life was saved, imprisoning him in the Villa ll Gioiello: on the hill of Arcetri, above Florence. where he was cared by a daughter of his, who was a nun like another. Their mother was a Padova prostitute whom Galileo never married, so they could choose only to be prostitutes too or nuns.
Tulllio

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I've learned, by reading "Nature"that professor Abdus Salam, Nobel Prize winner in Physics, belonged to an Islam minority called Ahmadi and was considered a heretic in Pakistan, so the word "Muslim" was defaced on his tomb. I've known him in Trieste where he founded the International Center for Theoretical Physics together with professor Paolo Budinich, my Thesis adviser. The Center, in a beautiful position near Mramare Castle, now bears his name.
Tullio

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Prior to the 20th century nobody dared to question religion for fear of reprisals,

Tullio responded with a good classic example.

Well, Giordano Bruno and Galileo have opposed the Church's doctrine. Bruno was more aggressive, and paid with his life, Galileo was more prudent

Galileo's story Galileo

Galileo's championing of heliocentrism and Copernicanism was controversial during his lifetime (1564-1642), when most subscribed to either geocentrism or the Tychonic system. The matter was investigated by the Roman Inquisition in 1615, which concluded that heliocentrism was "foolish and absurd in philosophy, and formally heretical since it explicitly contradicts in many places the sense of Holy Scripture.

Galileo later defended his views in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems (1632), which appeared to attack Pope Urban VIII and thus alienated him and the Jesuits, who had both supported Galileo up until this point. He was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy", and forced to recant. He spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

When you realise that no religion on Earth has any basis in provable fact or concrete evidence, and just relies on blind faith, it always seems totally amazing to me that religion has the power that it has. Galileo is an example of the past, but even today, despite the fact that FGM has been illegal in the UK since 2003 , and arranged marriages since 2004, it still goes on because some religions decree it. The authorities are well aware of it, but are reluctant to take a stand because they fear accusations of religious intolerance and persecution.

Right on Chris. As I have posted before--and others as well--the only effect would be the world's religions updating their myths.

Only some, not all by any means.

It's not hard to figure out why religion holds so much sway over modern human beliefs. For thousands of years it was believed that one god or another controlled everything that happens. The weather, earthquakes, volcanos, etc. etc. Its only been in the last two or three hundred years that scientific explanations have come to the forefront. And I'm afraid that most people stubbornly cling to mystic explanations for natural events. Otherwise it would be hard to cling to the idea of heaven and an afterlife.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.