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Message 1964777 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 7:23:50 UTC - in response to Message 1964774.  

Huh? I haven't heard anything about any "anomalies" at Einstein. I've been getting work from them since 2011 without interruption. They are my primary backup project along with GPUGrid.net. I have one host working on MilkyWay@home too because I put the 7.8.3 version on it. MW needs a BOINC client greater than 7.6.31 and my other BOINC 7.4.44 hosts don't cut it.


Hmmmm..... I thought I saw something about that, and then the tasks dried up. I am clearly missing something (the tasks maybe ;)

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Message 1964779 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 7:29:39 UTC - in response to Message 1964777.  

The only current problem I am aware of is that the new Turing cards are incompatible with the app on some tasks with a particular parameter set. So anyone with Turing I would say to wait it out till the developers can figure out why the architecture of Turing doesn't work on some datasets.
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Message 1964785 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 8:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 1964725.  

Totally unnecessary to spoil the credit hounds as soon as they howl at the moon.

The credit hounds are at Collatz.
The payout here is way below scale.
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Message 1964789 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 9:24:07 UTC - in response to Message 1964731.  
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But the startup would just crash the system with everyone clamoring for work.


. . Yes that is always a big problem .... they would have to run the splitters with the schedulers/download servers offline to let it build up a good load in the hopper than limit the downloads per host for a while. Load smoothing is always a delicate thing ...

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Message 1964790 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 9:26:56 UTC - in response to Message 1964735.  
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Totally unnecessary to spoil the credit hounds as soon as they howl at the moon.
You should have let it dry out totally, for once.

Me thinks it is self serving, Eric and the crew have a lot of data they want crunched and they will go out of their way to facilitate that goal.
Crunch on and stop bitching about their dedication.

They have billions of tasks already crunched since 1999, never analyzed for potential ET signals. Our crunching here, is just the first step. The crunched tasks needs to be analyzed too.
So they do not need to be in a hurry crunching more. So perhaps stop bitching for more tasks, as soon as it seems to get a bit dry around here?
Looking at how stuff works now, it will take 20 years before what we crunch now gets analyzed.


. . Hopefully not but you may be right. Either way we will not be around to see any 2 way communication, but for posterity it is still worth it.

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. . P.S. have you considered changing your handle to simply 'Grinch' ??
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Message 1964791 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 9:29:54 UTC - in response to Message 1964759.  

I just want to be a part of it. My machine doesn't do much, and what it does is very slow, so I will probably never run out of work (except that one time I think one Christmas or New Year when they didn't hand out WUs for a very long time). I just want to chat about Seti with like minded people. Well at least like minded in that we think Seti is worth our time and energy.

I'm very grateful that the Seti team continues to take time out of their off time to load up data files or fix a computer, as while it is mainly about the data, it is also about the community that develops around it.


. . Yep, uncommon people with a common cause ...

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Message 1964792 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 9:33:12 UTC - in response to Message 1964776.  

Yeah, well............I did send the diminishing queue word out to Eric and Jeff this afternoon before I left to attend to other things.
Looks like one or the other got the message and reloaded things.
I do try to keep comms from me to a minimum, so that they mean something when I do send them.
Or, maybe I had nothing to do with it and they just picked up on it themselves.
Neither Eric or Jeff has ever raised any quibble about attending to things on a weekend.
If they had a problem with it, they would just ignore the message.


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. . That is my take on it. They get to determine priorities and no one (with any sense) will fault them for their decisions. And the project continues.

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Message 1964818 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 16:00:16 UTC - in response to Message 1964777.  

Huh? I haven't heard anything about any "anomalies" at Einstein. I've been getting work from them since 2011 without interruption. They are my primary backup project along with GPUGrid.net. I have one host working on MilkyWay@home too because I put the 7.8.3 version on it. MW needs a BOINC client greater than 7.6.31 and my other BOINC 7.4.44 hosts don't cut it.


Hmmmm..... I thought I saw something about that, and then the tasks dried up. I am clearly missing something (the tasks maybe ;)

Tom


I think I have unscrewed up whatever it was I had screwed up. So if/when I run out of Seti tasks I should get a bunch of gpu and CPU tasks so my bored computer won't be twiddling its CPU cycles/gpu cycles waiting for some more Seti tasks :)

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Message 1964827 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 16:25:54 UTC

Einstein is my back up project for both here and GPUGrid. They were having issues with the CPU applications but that seems to have been resolved for now (think they removed those particulator work units.) As far as GPU applications, the Turing cards seem to like only 1 of the 2 different types that are crunched. No one can quite figure out why yet, thou Vyper hinted that it might have to do with the parameters that the Einstein scientist placed on the applications (testing is ongoing). All projects go through growing pains when new things are added or modified. I just let things run. If it's a problem on my end, I try to fit it. If it's on their end, then there's nothing I can do but move on to a 3rd back up project is I can't find work available.
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Message 1964879 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 21:29:43 UTC
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blank because I got my days wrong.
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Message 1964881 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 21:35:12 UTC - in response to Message 1964879.  

Uhh, today is Monday. You have 24 hours to wait still.
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Message 1964943 - Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 8:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 1964881.  
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Uhh, today is Monday. You have 24 hours to wait still.

It's Tuesday here, and almost over.
Just a few more hours & it'll be Wednesday.
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Message 1965059 - Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 0:48:05 UTC

I finally got new work on all machines, BUT as usual, the Splitters haven't kicked in to keep up with demand. Unless someone kicks them, they won't ramp up until the RTS is at Zero.
The RTS will be Zero fairly soon with the Splitters running at 5/sec....
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Message 1965063 - Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 1:00:43 UTC - in response to Message 1965059.  

Yes, this seems to be the 'new normal" for outage Tuesday's. Whatever script controls the splitters doesn't detect a drop in the RTS till it hits zero.
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Message 1965314 - Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 7:42:32 UTC

I see there's a problem with the MB Validators again. After a slight glitch, looks like they gave up all together & the backlog continues to grow, and as a result so too the Assimilator backlog.
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Message 1965318 - Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 8:22:20 UTC
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And now the Assimilator backlog is sky rocketing, and the splitters have stopped splitting all together. A couple of the AP stats have flatlined, and the MB Ready-to-send buffer is draining rapidly- it will be out of work in under 2hrs at the present rate.
Prepare for Panic.

Edit- fixed time to empty estimate.
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Message 1965333 - Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 12:16:41 UTC - in response to Message 1965318.  
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Prepare for Panic.


[Panic] ON [/Panic]

RTS = 0

And is still night in CA.
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Message 1965339 - Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 13:04:55 UTC - in response to Message 1965333.  

Prepare for Panic.


[Panic] ON [/Panic]

RTS = 0

And is still night in CA.


. . Ditto ...

. . Ruh Rho Rorge!

Stephen

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Message 1965340 - Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 13:15:43 UTC

Never mind, it's only another three or four hours until someone crawls out of their feather mountain to don their industrial boots to administer a suitable blow to the servers....
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Message 1965342 - Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 14:12:20 UTC - in response to Message 1965340.  

Never mind, it's only another three or four hours until someone crawls out of their feather mountain to don their industrial boots to administer a suitable blow to the servers....


. . I think someone is an early riser. There is another Arecibo tape mounted now so someone must be awake and checking things out ...

. . But even with the extra tape splitting the split rate is still very, very low ...

Stephen

. . waiting, waiting ...

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