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Message 1964442 - Posted: 10 Nov 2018, 18:37:00 UTC - in response to Message 1964412.  

Arecibo files always have been the hardest to crunch. Especially now that Arecibo VLAR's are sent to Nvidia cards.
And the Arecibo file naming convention - day, month, year, sequence letters - has been unchanged for 20 years.


Ah, now the naming of the files makes sense (slaps forehead) duh...

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Message 1964563 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 5:30:29 UTC

Just hit a slug of BLC04 'noise bombs' on two hosts. Haven't got to the good Arecibo stuff yet.
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Message 1964565 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 5:32:04 UTC - in response to Message 1964563.  

Haven't got to the good Arecibo stuff yet.

My main system has just about finished them.
Given what's left, unless we get some more VLAR Arecibo work, we'll be out of work in no time at all.
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Message 1964580 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 7:36:25 UTC

Yikes, didn't realize it was so dour. We will run out by early morning unless the lab elves perform some magic.
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Message 1964603 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 12:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 1964565.  

Haven't got to the good Arecibo stuff yet.

My main system has just about finished them.
Given what's left, unless we get some more VLAR Arecibo work, we'll be out of work in no time at all.


. . With a pretty full hopper and more than 1300 channels left to split I am guesstimating just a little short of 24 hours. I am torn between not wanting to shut down my machines and not wanting to spoil someone's holiday weekend ...

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Message 1964643 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 17:15:05 UTC

I tried to warn everyone :-P

The blc01s are done. If the blc04s are noisy we are in trouble. Hopefully they will give us some more files before Tuesday.
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Message 1964684 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 20:12:03 UTC
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we now have less than the 9 files that can be split in parallel ( at least that is how I think it works) so we are down from 14 channels to 13. I wonder at what point does RTS start to fall?? guessing it will start to fall before all the files are split.

edit : rough guess we have 12 hours until empty RTS
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Message 1964700 - Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 22:10:52 UTC - in response to Message 1964643.  
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I tried to warn everyone :-P

The blc01s are done. If the blc04s are noisy we are in trouble. Hopefully they will give us some more files before Tuesday.


. . Thanks, but I think most of the usual suspects already knew. The variable was "does anyone at Berkeley want to spoil their weekend by rushing to the lab?" :(

. . Friday would have been a good time to load more work ...

. . Forecast looking grim, 2/3 of files left last night have been split in less than 12 hours, so as long as there is not a high rate of noise bombs maybe 4 to 5 hours left to split, and the usual 3 hours of tasks in the hopper (the hopper will start to drop when the splitting rate is less than the return rate). I would say we are optimistically looking at about 8 hours to "no tasks available".

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. . This may be a good time for Kittyman to light the Bat Signal. Just maybe there are tapes ready to mount and can be done remotely ...
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Message 1964715 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 0:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 1964707.  

Let the staff have their weekend in peace.

. . While it is true a trip to the lab is unwarranted, I have a slim hope that some tapes are on standby and could be mounted remotely with a few commands. Would that be so intrusive?

It's no hurry to crunch anything.
Are you such credit hounds that you can't stand the thought of not crunching for some hours or even days?

. . Actually it is the prospect of shutting down all my rigs that upsets me. The fans get really noisy if I leave them on after they run out of work, and then I have to restart them all ... :(

Take a walk. Spend time with your family, neighbours, and friends. Play some old time games.
Geeze......


. . What are they? Family? Friends? Games?

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Message 1964723 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 0:55:07 UTC - in response to Message 1964717.  
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I give up. I hope Eric doesn't do anything at all to get more tasks online.
Not until it's time for work. (which would be Tuesday) *

Incredible.........

*November 11, 2018 (the legal public holiday for Veterans Day), falls on a Sunday. For most Federal employees,
Monday, November 12, will be treated as a holiday for pay and leave purposes.


. . Now, now, that's a tad taciturn ... Relax, smile and let your blood pressure drop a little. So far no one has said (that I have seen) that anyone should spoil their weekend by rushing over to the lab to fix the issue.

. . All I've said is to express some wishful thinking that there may be a solution that does not require that action. If not then c'est la vie! Deep breath and .... out

. . Oops, ignore the above, it is now a moot point because it has been sorted. Thank you to the kind staff member at SETI.

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Message 1964724 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 1:04:53 UTC

Panic over blc05 files being split !!! Thank you Seti team :-)
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Message 1964729 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 1:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 1964725.  

Totally unnecessary to spoil the credit hounds as soon as they howl at the moon.
You should have let it dry out totally, for once.


. . Hmmm I have to wonder if that would actually be a good thing for any aspect of the project ..., except obviously for you :)

. . Of course, it would give the housekeeping chores a chance to get ahead of things, clearing backlogs in validators/assimilators, database purging etc. Maybe it would have positive aspects.

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Message 1964731 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 1:43:45 UTC

But the startup would just crash the system with everyone clamoring for work.
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Message 1964732 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 1:59:11 UTC - in response to Message 1964725.  

Totally unnecessary to spoil the credit hounds as soon as they howl at the moon.
You should have let it dry out totally, for once.

Me thinks it is self serving, Eric and the crew have a lot of data they want crunched and they will go out of their way to facilitate that goal.
Crunch on and stop bitching about their dedication.
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Message 1964753 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 4:16:01 UTC

I run out of work every Tuesday in a few hours. I don't sweat it. I just move on to my other projects. When the project comes back and work starts flowing again, I automatically start crunching Seti again.
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Message 1964757 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 4:21:43 UTC - in response to Message 1964753.  

Keith, that is a sane response.
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Message 1964759 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 4:24:57 UTC

I just want to be a part of it. My machine doesn't do much, and what it does is very slow, so I will probably never run out of work (except that one time I think one Christmas or New Year when they didn't hand out WUs for a very long time). I just want to chat about Seti with like minded people. Well at least like minded in that we think Seti is worth our time and energy.

I'm very grateful that the Seti team continues to take time out of their off time to load up data files or fix a computer, as while it is mainly about the data, it is also about the community that develops around it.
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Message 1964773 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 7:03:56 UTC - in response to Message 1964753.  

I run out of work every Tuesday in a few hours. I don't sweat it. I just move on to my other projects. When the project comes back and work starts flowing again, I automatically start crunching Seti again.


What else are you using? I was using Einstein@Home (sp) but they have suspended shipping out new work while they look at some "anomalies" in their software/analysis (if I remember right) so I am in the market for some other backup tasks.

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Message 1964774 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 7:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1964773.  

Huh? I haven't heard anything about any "anomalies" at Einstein. I've been getting work from them since 2011 without interruption. They are my primary backup project along with GPUGrid.net. I have one host working on MilkyWay@home too because I put the 7.8.3 version on it. MW needs a BOINC client greater than 7.6.31 and my other BOINC 7.4.44 hosts don't cut it.
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Message 1964776 - Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 7:11:12 UTC

Yeah, well............I did send the diminishing queue word out to Eric and Jeff this afternoon before I left to attend to other things.
Looks like one or the other got the message and reloaded things.
I do try to keep comms from me to a minimum, so that they mean something when I do send them.
Or, maybe I had nothing to do with it and they just picked up on it themselves.
Neither Eric or Jeff has ever raised any quibble about attending to things on a weekend.
If they had a problem with it, they would just ignore the message.

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