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Message 1954745 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 1:52:02 UTC - in response to Message 1954630.  

Sounds like you need to get that new TR2 VRM optional cooling kit from ASUS for the ZE. I think it is supposed to be available next month. In the meantime, maybe you can jury rig an extra fan in the case to blow over the RAM and VRM heatsink.
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Message 1954755 - Posted: 11 Sep 2018, 3:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 1954745.  

Sounds like you need to get that new TR2 VRM optional cooling kit from ASUS for the ZE. I think it is supposed to be available next month. In the meantime, maybe you can jury rig an extra fan in the case to blow over the RAM and VRM heatsink.


The side's off and a 12" desktop fan is blowing in it at the moment, am thinking of putting the 1950 back in it and waiting for a short while, EK have brought out a couple of all in one blocks for MSI and Gigabyte boards, maybe there are more in the pipeline or maybe motherboard manufacturers after seeing this type of problem may revise or bring out a new board for this problem.
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Message 1955079 - Posted: 12 Sep 2018, 23:33:07 UTC

I just saw a story today that basically says the NVidia drivers they were using produced a "false" gamer performance report (too low) when they tested the Thread Ripper 2, 32 core cpu. The retest with the latest NVidia driver showed that the TR2 ran just as fast in full core mode as in the "gamer mode".

So anyone running Thread Rippers and NVidia's should probably upgrade to the very latest driver? What I don't know is if the Linux driver is the same version they were reporting on. Something like a 399.xx driver but that might be windows only :(

If the gamer result impacts the Seti processing result, there could be a bump in processing available from the new driver.

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Message 1955087 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 0:01:18 UTC

The MSI MEG Creation X399 board has been tested with the 2990WX at all core full load with no issues. Even holds up overclocked all cores at 4Ghz, This is the only properly redesigned TR2 board so far in the marketplace. Every one else has just band-aided the 1st Gen boards.

The Linux drivers are always several major revisions behind the Windows drivers. I wouldn't expect the 399 series on Linux till next year. I see no work on the Nvidia ppa team on anything past 396 so far.
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Message 1955118 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 3:34:12 UTC

Just viewed Buildzoid's video on his thoughts about the current crop of X399 motherboards total incapability to handle the 24/32 core TR2 chips.
Buildzoid's thoughts on the Threadripper 2 32 core // YOUR MOTHERBOARD IS NOT PREPARED

Basically, any motherboard that does not have 16 Vcore 60A VRM's will be incapable of running the 32 core TR2 at 1.35V which is what is usually needed for 4.0Ghz or more.

He makes a very interesting point that Intel boards don't need extreme VRM counts because their CPU's use Fully Integrated Voltage Regulators (FIVR) on the die. If AMD would do the same with TR2(TR2+??) they wouldn't need such extreme power delivery hardware.

Only the MSI MEG Creation with 16 60A VRM's is able to handle the 32 core. That was borne out with the AnandTech review of the 2990WX and the MEG board overclocked. Nobody else is offering any similar design. I see that the Aorus X399 Extreme board made a concession to return to actual, proper finned copper VRM heatsinks, But all for nought with just a 10 phase VRM design which is still inadequate.
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Message 1955134 - Posted: 13 Sep 2018, 5:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 1953651.  

Good to know. And it looks like _someone_ isn't going to have Any cooling issues with their systems, eh bloodrain?

Antarctica.

Sheesh, and I thought MN was cold for about half the year...

lol. funny story on that. am in a group. (which i took owner ship) due to the owner passing away a few years back. and that was my city i pick. to mess with him. years ago
but i left it their in his honor.


here is the build am working on

this is for editing video/photography from 1080p up to 4k.
here are the spec

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MA621P TR4 53.4 CFM CPU Cooler (this thing can kill a man)

Motherboard: ASRock - X399 Taichi ATX TR4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (wanted to go 128gb but dam the price)

Storage: Western Digital - Black NVMe 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (minuim 2gb write and read speeds)

Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Red Devil Golden Sample Video (looking into getting a second or third card)

Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

will rebuild old gaming pc from 2k6 into a nas server. seeing i have around 10tb of storage atm. but want to scale it up to around 50 or so tb
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