It appears that my previous discussion about Intel E5-2670vX cpu's has been locked for no activity so here is another thread for this kind of discussion.

---

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

My "workstation" has quit running with a refuse to boot beep of 1,5,3,3,3 (I have that written down someplace).

According to Google/Intel that means the "Power good" signal isn't working. So I moved the GTX 1060 from this box to my Z-400 6c/12t and upgraded it to Win10 Pro for a SharePoint server project (which is another story).

Anyway I am thinking about taking it to a local computer store to see if they can make heads or tails of it.

My office is just a bit cooler, at the moment. :)

Tom

---

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

My "workstation" has quit running with a refuse to boot beep of 1,5,4,4 (I have that written down someplace).

According to Google/Intel that means the "Power good" signal isn't working. So I moved the GTX 1060 from this box to my Z-400 6c/12t and upgraded it to Win10 Pro for a SharePoint server project (which is another story).

I have a Nephew who is a good hardware technician so I spent yesterday afternoon with him diagnosing it and cleaning some other computers he has that needed their 6 month de-dusting.

As of now, it looks like the motherboard has died and yesterday it looks like it took the power supply with it (it now smells electrically smokey).

I was looking at replacement motherboards. They seem to start at $300 and go up. There are some single cpu motherboards that I can probably afford. Since the GPU I had in there was swamping the cpu outputs I guess $150 or less is the way to go.

Tom

---

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

Hi Tom,

Can you be a bit more clear about what issue you're having, or what we are discussing here?

Topic title says 16c/32t discussion
first post mentions an E5-2670vX (which depending on the version is an 8-12 core CPU)
second posts mentions some 6c/12t CPU

so what's going on in here?
were you running a dual socket system?
do you need help finding another board?

As of now, it looks like the motherboard has died and yesterday it looks like it took the power supply with it (it now smells electrically smokey).

I't more likely that the power supply failed and took the board with it, check the ram and CPU as well, anything connected to the PSU could have been affected

Ian

---

Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

Hi,
*I'm sorry to hear about the death of your loved one Computer* and all the needed sentences of being sorry to be accepted as a qualified member of your community.

How about trying to catch with the Linux world with your tech support person?
Move your 10x0 cards or four of them to a new MOBO with an adequate (800W+) PSU and reorganize all the old GPUs to the windows machines.
Then grab a one of the TBar supplied InstallAtOnce or otherwise named packages and enjoy a threefold RAC for that computer?

The Linux is not so hard. Just set it up and let run.

*Grumpy as my next door swede to the west*

Petri
Now for a ()___)___________)))~~

---

To overcome Heisenbergs:
"You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones

How about trying to catch with the Linux world with your tech support person?
Move your 10x0 cards or four of them to a new MOBO with an adequate (800W+) PSU and reorganize all the old GPUs to the windows machines.
Then grab a one of the TBar supplied InstallAtOnce or otherwise named packages and enjoy a threefold RAC for that computer?

The Linux is not so hard. Just set it up and let run.

*Grumpy as my next door swede to the west*

Petri
Now for a ()___)___________)))~~

Thank you for the reply. The new motherboard I have on order could run both of my gtx 1060's if I could afford an 850+ PSU. I think I will start with the E5- cpu and two gtx 750Ti's I have. Just to get it off the ground.

Everytime I get into Linux I get confused. If there is a URL for a "turnkey" (literally) "InstallAtOnce" that doesn't require ANY editing/moving anything around, I might take a stab at it. It occurs to me now that I am playing with VMware I could setup the "InstallAtOnce" to make sure it really is as turnkey as advertised before I move it to a native system.

Tom

---

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

Thank you for the reply. The new motherboard I have on order could run both of my gtx 1060's if I could afford an 850+ PSU. I think I will start with the E5- cpu and two gtx 750Ti's I have. Just to get it off the ground.

Everytime I get into Linux I get confused. If there is a URL for a "turnkey" (literally) "InstallAtOnce" that doesn't require ANY editing/moving anything around, I might take a stab at it. It occurs to me now that I am playing with VMware I could setup the "InstallAtOnce" to make sure it really is as turnkey as advertised before I move it to a native system.

Tom

Yes.
All-In-One BOINC 7.4.44 and SETI Special App CUDA8 Installer

Just unpack to your Desktop. Satisfy any missing dependencies. Double-click boincmgr and you are up and running.

---

Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Yes.
All-In-One BOINC 7.4.44 and SETI Special App CUDA8 Installer

Just unpack to your Desktop. Satisfy any missing dependencies. Double-click boincmgr and you are up and running.

This will sound a bit ignorant but it does sound like I need to have Linux setup and running before I try this install?

Assuming yes. And assuming I will not kick off a "religious" war on this, what is the "best" turnkey Linux that most of the Windows -> Linux noobie's like?

I have played with a number of them and the "best for former windows users" opinions see-saw depending on which new release is out there.

Let me be clear. I am looking for a turnkey install with a "user-friendly" (whatever that really means) GUI for at least the desktop.

Thank you!

Tom

---

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

probably Linux Mint or Ubuntu (i like Ubuntu, never used Mint personally).

installing ubuntu is as easy or easier than installing windows. let's say its about on par with a windows 7 install.

most everything will "just work" as far as drivers provided you dont have absolute bleeding edge hardware. you shouldnt need to do anything with system drivers but maybe some updates (just like windows).

after that you will need to install nvidia drivers. which apparently can even be done via gui now in ubuntu.
then install boinc + special app.

probably less steps and time than setting up a windows box. but can be frustrating to people only familiar with windows since the way things work is different

---

Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

I think that any GUI is user dependent on what is liked or disliked. I don't care about icons or themes or pretty pictures. I care about functionality. I have limited exposure to Linux. I tried and failed with Mint. I succeeded easily with Ubuntu. Running the latest 18.04 LTS with the Gnome display manager on 3 of 5 systems. Two systems are still running the 16.04 LTS version with Unity interface. Not much difference except which corner window controls are located and that can be changed in the user settings.

The special app needs to be installed in native Linux. Not in the WLS subsystem in Windows10.

---

Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

probably Linux Mint or Ubuntu (i like Ubuntu, never used Mint personally).

installing ubuntu is as easy or easier than installing windows. let's say its about on par with a windows 7 install.

most everything will "just work" as far as drivers provided you dont have absolute bleeding edge hardware. you shouldnt need to do anything with system drivers but maybe some updates (just like windows).

after that you will need to install nvidia drivers. which apparently can even be done via gui now in ubuntu.
then install boinc + special app.

probably less steps and time than setting up a windows box. but can be frustrating to people only familiar with windows since the way things work is different

Tell that to Zalster who has fought installing Ubuntu most of the day. I think he has some hardware issues though since it was acting up on Windows before he attempted to install Linux. We made some progress tonight before he called it quits for bed. A lot of the issue was the links I provided at CA for the All-in-One BOINC installer were broken and the files couldn't be downloaded. I then put the files up on Dropbox but for some reason they never downloaded correctly for him.

I just ftp'd the missing files back to CA but Arkayn will have to fix the links still I think. So not sure when the links will work again.
[Edit] Looks like simply uploading the files fixed the links. So the links are good for downloading again.

---

Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

All my problems started after I made that USB boot drive. ( I think the computer realized what I made and decided to commit suicide rather than face an linux upgrade)

After that, it was 1 issue after another. When I removed any sign of linux, it booted straight into windows again...hmmm...

Could just be coincidence but I have to wonder......Bahahaha..

---

I have yet to figure out where people run into problems installing Linux. I must have done at least 20 installs of Mint 17/18 and Ubuntu 16/18 and not once ran into any real problems. Just install, remove default Nvidia drivers, pick New Nvidia drivers from the list and install, then do system updates, reboot. THEN install BOINC.

EDIT: My personal preference is Mint 17, then Ubuntu 16. the others just have little quirks I don't like, but no serious problems with them at all.

---

I have yet to figure out where people run into problems installing Linux. I must have done at least 20 installs of Mint 17/18 and Ubuntu 16/18

Experience makes perfect.
And given the perversity of nature, and technology in particular, those least likely to be able to deal with an issue are the ones most likely to experience them.

---

Grant
Darwin NT

I have yet to figure out where people run into problems installing Linux. I must have done at least 20 installs of Mint 17/18 and Ubuntu 16/18 and not once ran into any real problems. Just install, remove default Nvidia drivers, pick New Nvidia drivers from the list and install, then do system updates, reboot. THEN install BOINC.

EDIT: My personal preference is Mint 17, then Ubuntu 16. the others just have little quirks I don't like, but no serious problems with them at all.

Hi Brent,

I have to agree with you in that I have never had any problem installing any Linux Distro (GUI versions that is). Way back when I did try a non-GUI Linux, I think it was FreeBSD or something like that. Man it was all Greek to me! ;)

Before I upgraded this PC to Coffee Lake (8th gen), I had Linux Mint dual booting with Win7. I had no problem getting them to dual boot.

The only problem I have with the GUI Linux is trying to get Windows software to run in Wine. I have yet to be successful with that endeavor. ;) But, I'll keep trying and I hope will eventually succeed. :) After what I read about Micro$oft going to a "Pay-as-you-go" OS, I will be dumping Windows.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

---

CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I have only installed Wine on one system to run BoincTasks after my Win8 Computer died on me, and I went into BT withdrawals while waiting for part to replace the motherboard.

On Ubuntu 16, I installed Wine, and Play on Linux (not sure if that one is needed), then you just right click on an EXE and select 'Open with Wine' worked great, but BT was fair slow with expanding/collapsing when expanding things like GPU tasks Ready to Start.

I have installed Ubuntu LTS in the "Light Ubuntu" version once or twice or three times...

I like the idea of dual booting Win7Pro (I still have one left) and Light Ubuntu.

With two (gasp) gtx 1060's on a single e5- cpu (the reason I can afford the new MB is it is only 1 cpu and it isn't bleeding edge USB).

I once got up to near 25,000 (I think) / gtx 1060 / machine once so maybe this would get me up near 50,000 (on one machine).

Only problem is one of my other machines would regress to two gtx 750ti's and the other one would become an experimental Intel gpu machine (again :)

Tom

---

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association).

All my problems started after I made that USB boot drive. ( I think the computer realized what I made and decided to commit suicide rather than face an linux upgrade)

After that, it was 1 issue after another. When I removed any sign of linux, it booted straight into windows again...hmmm...

Could just be coincidence but I have to wonder......Bahahaha..

were you trying to dual boot the system?

windows MBR gets all wonky when trying to dual boot a system sometimes. it's always a hassle.

my first advice would be to not dual boot at all.
second advice, if you must, put each OS on a separate HDD (unplug the opposite drive during install), to keep the bootloaders separate, and boot each OS via BIOS

---

Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours

I have triple boot system

Win7 Pro daily use
Win 10 Pro (testing only)
Mint 18.3 (once a week during the outage)

Never had an issue with boot.

---

With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

I'm glad so many haven't had a problem installing Linux. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

The comment about the less experience will have the hardest time, goes to my statement in the past that Linux isn't for everyone who does build or programs on a regular basis.

My statement about learning it taking a full week might just end up being true at this rate.

To answer your question, 2 SSD each with their own OS. The idea that I would need to manual disconnect the other SSD when booting is very likely true given my experience with this build but is not realistic due to the size of the computers and where the SSD are located. To have to maneuver it and disconnect and reconnect the SSD is too much of a pain. Being able to leave both in the system and only booting from 1 SSD from BIOS would be the preferred but I'm getting the impression that isn't going to be the case.

I have to wonder if the OS isn't capable of either handling the MoBo or the number of GPUs. Given that others seem to have similar build, I find it hard to believe that but I guess I'll find out if this occurs with other similar systems that I have. In which case, there would be no benefit to switching from my current builds.

---