Number Crunching & the Café have their versions & this report, too political for the transport thread prompted one for this board. :-)

Ms Onasanya, who was a solicitor before being elected to Parliament, is a Labour whip, meaning she is responsible for party discipline.

Another fox in charge of a henhouse.

MP accused of lying

Nothing new, they lie all the time. :-) The only time they tell the truth is when they want your vote.

More tax payers money wasted on a trial in the Crown Court.

Corrected to reflect reality.

The only time they, promise to, tell the truth is when they want your vote.

Oops, quite happy to stand corrected. :-)

Meanwhile, across the pond.

Didn't realise that Yanks are so easily upset :-)

Welcome to yet another thread Clyde. :-)

Welcome to yet another thread Clyde. :-)

Not Clyde. He does answer questions. The Clyde Bot doesn't do that.

Wow, that was abrupt! Just over 10 minutes ago, the headline read: BBC to appeal high court decision.

BBC agree to pay

From Barmy Boris to this bozo. Whoever next?
No wonder the Health Service is in a mess.

Or I could be just a skilled mathematician, for also making it a masterpiece at times.

At least some great colors visible, in a couple of the drawings here.

Next, my conclusion are as follows . . .

The Yugo was an obsolete Fiat model.

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There is not much difference between a state corporation and a private corporation.

Very surprising coming from the land of the workers rebellion.

Thanks to the intervention of mr block button, I don't read a lot of drivel spouted in these threads, I only see which winds are blowing(or vacuums are sucking depending on the POV).

Can't read the words sent from 'bobbieland'......... " : >.........

Why is China and Russia now Capitalist. If Communism, Socialism, Stalinism or Maoism was successful?

And why are the economies of Cuba, Venezuela and DPRK failing?

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

JE...

Wonder how Mr. Socialist will respond to Venezuelan Socialist President Maduro finally admitting today the following:

That his country's failure is not the evil Yankee's fault, but their own?

I've said it before, with apologies to Tim Allen "Capitalists are Pigs.........Too bad we own everything".

Let that sink in for as long as it takes..........

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

And why are the economies of Cuba, Venezuela and DPRK failing?

Sanctions?

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The Stalin model is now being studied by many and is marked by success and effectiveness.

Was it worth the cost in lives, that's a value judgement?

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In the Stalin period, the factory opened every day. Stalin created the state corporation. This was a great experiment and Stalin confirmed it with three achievements:
1. Victory in the Second World War.
2. The creation of nuclear weapons (Tsar Bomb)
3. Space flights. The Institute of Missile Engines appeared in the 1930s.
The Stalin model is now being studied by many and is marked by success and effectiveness.

Oh dear:)
Even most Russians doesn't belive this.
Facts.
1. The Soviet Union was allied to USA during the WWII.
2. Soviet fission nuclear weapons was developed with the help of Russian spies in the Manhattan Project.
Tsar Bomba was a fusion nuclear weapon that was developed by Andrei Sakharov and others in the same way as it was done in the US at that time.
Stalin was dead when Tsar Bomba was developed!
3. Space flights have always been a military project.
Without the cold war there wouldn't been any space programs.

Without the cold war there wouldn't been any space programs.

Everyone saw what a V-2 could do; it and the thought of a nuclear weapon on top caused the cold war.

JE...

Wonder how Mr. Socialist will respond to Venezuelan Socialist President Maduro finally admitting today the following:

That his country's failure is not the evil Yankee's fault, but their own?

I've said it before, with apologies to Tim Allen "Capitalists are Pigs.........Too bad we own everything".

Let that sink in for as long as it takes..........

You sold it all to China. Remember that.

<ed> we are far off topic now. As I say, buy a tax stamp for your gun, problem solved.

The Stalin model is now being studied by many and is marked by success and effectiveness.

...................right................[/sarcasm font]

Successful and Effective

at controlling serfs with no access to defensive weapons.

Successful because who's going to buck the system when the alternative is death.

Effective because-see answer above.

......is now being studied by many..........

Erdogan, Kim, Ortega, Maduro, Castro............and other paragons of economic success and stability.

.........better hope that new pipeline is capable of flow in both directions...............and can carry food.............

If so "Effective and Successful" why did the Soviet Union collapse in economic ruin trying to match the US military spending in the 80's? Why is the Russia of today more a Capitalist Dictatorship/Oligarchy instead of a Glorious Soviet Collective? Why the need to raise the retirement benefit age if everything there is so wonderful?

Why? Because the only government systems that work for very long must come FROM the people governed, not IMPOSED on the people governed.

Eventually the mouse will eat the lion, when the lion becomes too fat and lazy to move.

Well Clyde has side tracked the thread, again I see (when doesn't he?), and Eye and Vadim are just being their brainwashed selves (both far right and far left) so we can await for Dull's words of non wisdom now to complete the story on stupidity. ;-)

.......and the usual wind blowing in from Australia carrying the odor of manure............

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Venezuela is a federal presidential republic Clyde and has nothing to do with socialism what so ever, so have you finished with being off topic yet?