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Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
Does anyone know how to access the UEFI bios menu in win 10. The suggested ways don't work, and I'm at my wits end. I have to change my primary monitor to use the onboard iGPU (HD630) instead of my GTX 750 Ti. It's holding up me getting back to crunching. I also have to reinstall by GPU drivers, but can't do that until I change to monitor source. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Del, F12 or Esc doesn't do it when re-booting? How to Access UEFI BIOS Setup in Windows 8/10 New PCs. Grant Darwin NT |
Darrell Wilcox Send message Joined: 11 Nov 99 Posts: 303 Credit: 180,954,940 RAC: 118 |
Also try F2. Be sure to try both your graphic card AND your iGPU to see the BIOS screen. |
HAL Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 535 Credit: 8,246,955 RAC: 3 |
Does anyone know how to access the UEFI bios menu in win 10. It's not a matter of Win 10 it's a boot up process, and it is usually DEL on the keyboard (but could be another key). Hit delete (or other correct key) until the bios comes up when rebooting PC. If it isn't working (and you are hitting the right key) then check the KBD for good connection. I'm putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all, I think, that any conscious entity can ever hope to do. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Uhhh....consult the documentation for the motherboard if you built it or the computer if you bought it? Getting into the bios has nothing at all to do with the operating system installed. That only comes into play after the bios is done POSTing and boots whatever is setup in the boot menu in the bios. Pressing the delete key during the first bios splash screen is the most common one used to get into the bios to change it's settings. In fact, most initial bios screens will say at the bottom what key or keys to use to get into the setup menu. And on second thought..... I think what you are trying to do IS a Win 10 settings change, and has nothing to do with the bios of the motherboard. And I cannot advise you on that. But maybe this will help...... Change Main Display in Windows 10 "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
Since all else has failed, including all suggestions mentioned here, I went with the last ditch effort. I shut it Down , unplugged it and waited 10 minutes, then removed the CMOS battery and cleared the CMOS by pulling the jumper, which sent everything back to the basics. I had to plug one monitor into a 750Ti and the other into the onboard iGPU. As it turned out the 750 that I had to use was NOT the one that I would normally use for the primary. When I turned on the machine, I got a basic screen that allowed me to get to the menu and change the source for the primary monitor. My next challenge is to get the nVidia drivers to install. Something in the system keeps hanging, I think it's the install service for if I bring up the task manager and look at the 'services' tab, the service has stopped. But I'll keep trying. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Something in the system keeps hanging, I think it's the install service for if I bring up the task manager and look at the 'services' tab, the service has stopped. But I'll keep trying. The InstallService is only for installation of MS Store applications, and will only run if there is something to install. TrustedInstaller is responsible for all other software installations (OS, application & driver updates). It also only runs when installing something. Stopped is their usual state. Grant Darwin NT |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
I was FINALLY able to install the 391.01 driver and am now crunching. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Does anyone know how to access the UEFI bios menu in win 10. The suggested ways don't work, and I'm at my wits end. I have to change my primary monitor to use the onboard iGPU (HD630) instead of my GTX 750 Ti. It's holding up me getting back to crunching. I also have to reinstall by GPU drivers, but can't do that until I change to monitor source. Hi Cliff, The other respondents have given good info on getting to the UEFI BIOS. My response is for the graphics card. If you want to use the onboard graphics for whatever reason, you may have to pull the discrete 750ti card. I don't know for fact that it needs to be removed, but I do know that the BIOS will look for a discrete card and if it sees one it will disable the onboard graphics. I don't believe just plugging the monitor into the onboard will work with a discrete card installed. I believe I would just pull the 750 just for GP. Although, I think I have read somewhere where someone came up with a way to run 2 monitors using a discrete card and onboard graphics. :\ Just my 2 cents worth. :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
That advice is motherboard specific. I have some machines assembled privately where the on-chip Intel GPU can be used at the same time as discrete NVidia GPUs: I have them set to display the BIOS via NVidia outputs, but I don't honestly know whether this is forced or optional. It will likely vary by manufacturer. I also have two Dell Optiplex OEM business-class computers. These machines actively disable the on-chip Intel GPU when a discrete GPU is plugged in: a monitor connected to the onboard port displays a full-screen message 'You've plugged the cable into the wrong socket, dummy' or words to that effect. |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
The problem is not whether I had a discrete card in or not. The problem was the UEFI is so fast that I couldn't get to the menu by either F2 or the delete key. Regardless how hard I tried it always ended up going to the OS. By pulling the battery and clearing the CMOS it sent everything back to the basics. Once that was done, getting to the menu easy. I then had to change the boot the boot sequence from UEFI to the Boot manager on the system drive. Somehow it got changed to boot straight UEFI, which as we all know is ultra fast. There was no option to hit F2 or delete, just a black screen until the post finished and the OS started. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22199 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
It sounds as if you had a "fast boot" option selected in the BIOS - OK for most users, but when it comes to those that like to over-clock, or have other specific needs to get things working correctly a somewhat annoying thing to set. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The bios on my most recent mobo has an option to set a delay before it starts up the OS boot. So you can make it wait a little before it takes off into the OS. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
The bios on my most recent mobo has an option to set a delay before it starts up the OS boot. So you can make it wait a little before it takes off into the OS. What mobo is that? I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The bios on my most recent mobo has an option to set a delay before it starts up the OS boot. So you can make it wait a little before it takes off into the OS. It's an ASUS X99-PRO/USB 3.1 and it's been a very good mobo for me. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I always turn off Fast Boot in my BIOS' As has been said, not a good idea if you are overclocked. I also always set at minimum a 5 second delay after POST. Even on a SSD boot drive, I can still get the DEL or F2 key to be picked up. Maybe the POST delay is an ASUS BIOS thing. It's been around for years, probably at least ten years. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
DanHansen@Denmark Send message Joined: 14 Nov 12 Posts: 194 Credit: 5,881,465 RAC: 0 |
Hi, Just an idea..... Modify files! Remove the "EFI" folder from the root of Windows Setup. This prevents the device from starting in UEFI mode. or Restart while pressing, and holding down "shift"... or Run "CMD" COMMAND: shutdown /r /fw /t 0 or Script in CLI to intercept it?? Project Headless CLI Linux Multiple GPU Boinc Servers Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 64bit Kernel 3.13.0-32-generic CPU's i5-4690K GPU's GT640/GTX750TI Nvidia v.340.29 BOINC v.7.2.42 |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
Most everything is working as it should as far as I can tell now. My main problem is that TrustedInstaller keeps hanging. I've replaced suspected files and registry items via M$S partner Reimage software. It worked for awhile, but then went south again. Any ideas? I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
DanHansen@Denmark Send message Joined: 14 Nov 12 Posts: 194 Credit: 5,881,465 RAC: 0 |
Hi Cliff, Please correct me here.... What you need, I'm guessing, is to crunch using your GTX 750 Ti card, and the onboard GPU for your monitor, right??? Or, do you want to use your GTX 750 Ti only!? Sorry for asking... I've been at it for hours and hours - and UK not being my mother tongue, doesn't make it any easier :) TrustedInstaller !! When?? During, before or after a program installation? Exactly what is the error (letter for letter). I'm sure you tried removing it and reinstall it. Pretty d.... sure :) Errors occurs due to missing or bad entries in the registry, virus or malmware. E.g. FIX registry, install KAV Internet Protection. Actually I had a contract (danish market) with Kaspersky back in 2000. I held on to KAV privately, and haven't had a bug since. So, try that.... Use your 30 days free key and see what happens. (When problem is solved,hold on to your KAV, you won't regret this). Find Microsoft Registry Fix'er and check this too. Well, as you might know... Winx.x does not handle a lot of installations and uninstallations very well. At some point, you are better of reinstalling your OS. Did that on my 1 Win workstation 2 months ago. Do something: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/trustedinstaller-exe-windows-7 Fix?: http://www.reimageplus.com/includes/router_land.php?tracking=twc&lpx=tef But! Exactly what is the problem with GTX 750 Ti ??? I'm running 4 of those in a Linux Rig.... Haven't got anything bad to say about that one :) https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7427720 KR Dan Project Headless CLI Linux Multiple GPU Boinc Servers Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 64bit Kernel 3.13.0-32-generic CPU's i5-4690K GPU's GT640/GTX750TI Nvidia v.340.29 BOINC v.7.2.42 |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
You're right - the 750s are for crunching and the iGPU (HD630) is the monitor. The sfc /scannow only repaired something for One Drive which I don't use. As far as TrustedInstaller is concerned, it could hang at any time during an install, sometimes in the middle and others at the end. I don't know enough about the event viewer to decipher what is going on with it or what to look for. BTW, nothing is wrong with the 750s, they are running purrrfectly. I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
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