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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Ah, the poor little darlings, moaning... Shareholders insist on an extra dime every month. Do you think the workforce is ready for a 9% cut in pay? Will the landlords take a 9% cut in rent? Will the electric company take a 9% cut in rates? Will Rump take a 9% cut in tariffs? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Continuing with stupidity & it will continue to drop.Ah, the poor little darlings, moaning... At the same time, Boeing said it was eliminating about a hundred quality control positions in North Charleston.I bet the relatives of those Landlords/Electric Company personnel/Trump would scare up a massive lawsuit should they be on a plane that went down to poor workmanship/lack of quality control. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Continuing with stupidity & it will continue to drop.Ah, the poor little darlings, moaning... And all the time buying back $24 billion in its stock during the past three years — nearly three-quarters of the company’s free cash flow over that period, but has now had to pause plans to buy back a further $18 billion in stock. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
And all the time buying back $24 billion in its stock during the past three years — nearly three-quarters of the company’s free cash flow over that period, but has now had to pause plans to buy back a further $18 billion in stock.Probably because the pending lawsuits is going to eat up a fair chunk of the remaining cash, leaving very little for their shareholders to feast on. :-) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And all the time buying back $24 billion in its stock during the past three years — nearly three-quarters of the company’s free cash flow over that period, but has now had to pause plans to buy back a further $18 billion in stock.Probably because the pending lawsuits is going to eat up a fair chunk of the remaining cash, leaving very little for their shareholders to feast on. :-) And who be those shareholders? 401(k) pension plans that are required to invest in ETF's that have Boeing as a component of their index. So that be the little guy who get screwed as per usual. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
And who be those shareholders? 401(k) pension plans that are required to invest in ETF's that have Boeing as a component of their index. So that be the little guy who get screwed as per usual.Yep, with an extra benefit, the possibility of getting killed in a plane by said company. Ah well, it is fiduciary duty after all. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Boeing says pilot alert on 737 Max was ‘not activated as intended’ on all planes Boeing Co. acknowledged that a cockpit alert notifying pilots of a sensor malfunction linked to two fatal accidents wasn’t working as represented on every 737 Max. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
By 'eck! That is some very creative trying to shovel the blame elsewhere... All a game now of obfuscation and muck spreading? So... That pathetic excuse and blame game now gets even more serious in that, really, a critical safety feature was not tested for on the production planes? How many other flight features are similarly not tested??! Looks to me to be all too greedy and shoddy and lives be damned?... There really does need to be personal responsibility taken for so recklessly risking the lives of so many for so long, needlessly, and for killing two planes full of people... All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
How many other flight features are similarly not tested??!100% from 100% of manufacturers. Ever heard the words "used" and "new"? Like buying a "new"car. A car dealer is supposed to check that the factory put oil in the engine, doesn't always happen. There isn't a dealer that does "dealer prep" on a new airplane. Airline sends pilot to pick up the plane from the factory, he better check it or it will enter service no matter the number of flaws. (Smart profitable airlines fly the plane from the factory to their maintenance shop to be give a through going over before they enter revenue service.) Or Martin, was it, the tech at the factory loaded the wrong software? You would think it might display it's version number every time it is powered on. Who didn't catch this mismatch then? The factory? The Airline when they picked the plane up? The pilots every time they flew the plane? These things are always the result of a chain of failures. At every link in the chain it could be stopped. To err is human. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
FAA mandates changes to Boeing 787 Dreamliner SEATTLE (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration on Wednesday said it was mandating new flight control software and parts to Boeing Co’s 787 Dreamliner to address what it called an unsafe operating condition of certain products on the plane. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
By 'eck! Sadly, (criminally?!) there looks to more of the same obfuscation from Boeing: Boeing boss denies reports 737 Max safety systems weren't active ... The American planemaker's chief exec, Dennis Muilenberg, gave a press conference yesterday in which he insisted the controversial Maneuvering Characteristic Augmentation System (MCAS) was not to blame for the two fatal crashes of Boeing 737 Max airlines within the last few months. Those crashes killed everyone aboard both airliners. Muilenburg told the world's media the MCAS met its "design and certification criteria" and, judging by various reports of his remarks, appeared to suggest that the pilots of the doomed aircraft may have been partly to blame... ... An accident report eventually issued by the Ethiopian authorities found the pilots of flight ET302 followed Boeing's recommended procedures and checklists, though it appeared that while the crew had cut out the electric automatic trim, the resulting manual backup situation left them physically unable to keep their 737 Max 8 from nosediving into the ground. Separately, various American news outlets reported that Boeing had failed to tell airlines flying the 737 Max series that safety features those airlines had ordered on their new aircraft were not operational... To me, that reads as completely damning. Looks to me to be all too greedy and shoddy and lives be damned?... All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
The ballot result showed just how angry Tube staff are at proposals London Underground are attempting to bulldoze through that would decimate the inspection and safety culture on the fleet. Despite that result Tube bosses have ignored the workforce and are pressing ahead and it is that intransigence that has left us no option but to confirm industrial action.Approved |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Follow up to my post 1990891 about the Boeing Dreamliner South Carolina Plant. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/business/boeing-charleston-plane-dreamliner.html Boeing’s South Carolina Plant Subject to Increased Scrutiny The Federal Aviation Administration has been increasing its scrutiny of Boeing’s plant near Charleston, S.C., where manufacturing errors have at times threatened to undermine safety. If you want to fly in a Dreamliner; Boeing now delivers all of Qatar’s airplanes out of its plant in Everett, Wash., the F.A.A. said. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Boeing did not disclose 737 MAX alert issue to FAA for 13 months CHICAGO/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Boeing Co (BA.N) did not tell U.S. regulators for more than a year that it inadvertently made an alarm alerting pilots to a mismatch of flight data optional on the 737 MAX, instead of standard as on earlier 737s, but insisted on Sunday the missing display represented no safety risk. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Further detail on that is: Boeing admits knowing of 737 Max problem Boeing has admitted that it knew about a problem with its 737 Max jets a year before the aircraft was involved in two fatal accidents, but took no action... ... And the rest is all just pathetic excuses... The first crash should never have happened. Let alone the second crash where the pilots were faithfully following Boeing's new instructions for an impossible situation... Greed before lives? All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Greed before lives?Thread title answers that. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Ask a Ford Pinto, Fiduciary duty, the only thing.Greed before lives?Thread title answers that. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
"Loadsamoney" A drug for the common cold will be cheap, they can make it up on volume. A drug that saves your life will be expensive, you are willing to pay for it. Basic economic class. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Boeing vice-president Mike Sinnett told the pilots: "No one has yet to conclude that the sole cause of this was this function on the airplane."Boeing feeling the "pain" Boeing has been working on a software fix for its flight system and is hoping for quick approval from regulators. |
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