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Message 1998488 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 1:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 1998486.  

Hi Siran, yes meant for you. Memory fart from an old fart. I am in the process of cleaning up a boo-boo on my custom loop rig. Thought I would do a simple and fast replacement of my two 1070's with new 2070's. They are sandwiched between the water cooled cards. In trying to get the 1070's out from under the water hoses without removing the water cooled cards, I popped a hose off and drenched the motherboard. Oops.
So my simple and fast maintenance has turned into a long and complicated maintenance.


. . Two things: Sorry to hear about your mishap and that is why I have never considered going to water cooling, I would definitely be the one to have such accidents. And have you won the lottery or something? All these latest tech GPUs ... if I look green it's just the shading from the tree outside my window ... :)

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It's a evil virus that pop up now and again.... Throw your credit cards in a ice tray and freeze them or it will get you too.....
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Message 1998519 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 7:15:42 UTC

Massive electricity blackout hits Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay.

Argentina's grid "collapsed" about 7:00am local time, leaving the entire country without power, Argentina's Energy Secretariat said in a statement.
The outage also cut electricity to swaths of neighbouring Uruguay and Paraguay.
Energy distributors in Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay, whose populations total nearly 55 million, said power was being restored to major cities — including Montevideo and Buenos Aires after being without power for at least five hours.

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Message 1998523 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 7:54:17 UTC - in response to Message 1998519.  

Which should make us all ask the question: how would our own country, and our residents, cope with a total electricity blackout?

This event was being widely reported on British news on Sunday. Not only the electricity went, and with it transport: the water supply relies on electric pumps and electricity for treatment centres too. And it's the middle of winter there: any heating system with electric controls would have been knocked out, even if electricity wasn't the primary energy source for the heating (it many cases it was). And so on.
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Message 1998540 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 13:45:16 UTC - in response to Message 1998488.  


It's a evil virus that pop up now and again.... Throw your credit cards in a ice tray and freeze them or it will get you too.....


Maybe that is why at least some of the American Express cards are "green" (evil fungus?)
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Message 1998541 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 13:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 1998523.  

Which should make us all ask the question: how would our own country, and our residents, cope with a total electricity blackout?

This event was being widely reported on British news on Sunday. Not only the electricity went, and with it transport: the water supply relies on electric pumps and electricity for treatment centres too. And it's the middle of winter there: any heating system with electric controls would have been knocked out, even if electricity wasn't the primary energy source for the heating (it many cases it was). And so on.


I don't think I would cope well. Had a tornado come through a couple of weeks ago. Took down power for 6 hours. From supper time through nearly local midnight. It gets really dark when you run out of flashlight batteries.

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Message 1998555 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 15:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 1998541.  

It gets really dark when you run out of flashlight batteries.

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I've got one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolson-Quality-Tools-61702-Three/dp/B003KGB992

LEDs, hand-crank generator, and a rechargeable battery, all for under five bucks. Not very bright, doesn't last long, but enough to light your way downstairs to the fuse-box.
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Message 1998601 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 21:31:52 UTC - in response to Message 1998555.  

It gets really dark when you run out of flashlight batteries.

Tom
I've got one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rolson-Quality-Tools-61702-Three/dp/B003KGB992

LEDs, hand-crank generator, and a rechargeable battery, all for under five bucks. Not very bright, doesn't last long, but enough to light your way downstairs to the fuse-box.


Let me look....
Problem was it took down 10,000 customers.

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Message 1998606 - Posted: 17 Jun 2019, 22:24:33 UTC - in response to Message 1998291.  

For those on my Hit List I apologise, but I'm on a mission. ;-)

And for those hitting on me, I'm going to make you all work harder. :-p
I've added another 5 to that hit list since and I've dropped 1 of those hitting on me off the list. :-D

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Message 1998661 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 8:15:57 UTC - in response to Message 1998523.  

Which should make us all ask the question: how would our own country, and our residents, cope with a total electricity blackout?

This event was being widely reported on British news on Sunday. Not only the electricity went, and with it transport: the water supply relies on electric pumps and electricity for treatment centres too. And it's the middle of winter there: any heating system with electric controls would have been knocked out, even if electricity wasn't the primary energy source for the heating (it many cases it was). And so on.

Perfect for a candlelight evening ;-)
But definitely not good for my aquarium filters if it lasts more than a few hours !

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Message 1998671 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 10:26:07 UTC

Greetings,

4 days ago I reported that I had a weird memory problem. World of Warcraft kept giving me out of memory errors. I rebooted the PC and everything was fine. Although, I found that BOINC had erred on 38 WUs. Yesterday afternoon, it happened again, but this time I stopped BOINC and had only 3 erred WUs (I forgot to stop BOINC before this episode). I did not reboot, but shut down BOINC completely. There was no problem from WoW. This morning when I went in to do my early morning stuff, I shut down BOINC and had no problem with WoW giving out of memory errors. Saturday, Sunday and yesterday morning I had BOINC shut down and there were no problems.

I have 2 new sticks of RAM coming some time today. I probably won't get to the RAM swap until tomorrow. I was wondering if anyone had any other ideas. I have been running WoW and BOINC together for quite some time until Friday the 14th. There has never been a problem, not even lag in the game. I have run the Scan and Repair function on WoW after each episode. It doesn't seem that there is anything wrong with the files.

Both times that this happened my PC had less than 30% RAM usage. With 70% RAM free, I don't understand how an out of memory error can be generated. I just tested and BOINC is only using 5% max RAM. I highly doubt that BOINC is the problem. But, without BOINC running, WoW has no problem with out of memory. Unless perhaps there is a problem somewhere else such as the memory controller or whatever. I don't know, I'm at a loss. I have never had this problem that I can remember.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 1998673 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 11:52:44 UTC - in response to Message 1998671.  

Are you crunching on the GPU while running WOW?
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Message 1998675 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:55:09 UTC

I thought the "Out of memory" problem often occurred because of desktop heap size limitations ?
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Message 1998678 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 1998675.  
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I thought the "Out of memory" problem often occurred because of desktop heap size limitations ?

Hi Ghia,

I tried to read about desktop heap and it is WAAAAYYYY over my head. I kinda understand what it is, but that's it. Don't ask me to explain it, I wouldn't know how to. ;)

Leave it to freaking Micro$oft to drop Desktop Heap Monitor. The last version was in something like '08. There's none for Windows 10.
Dheapmon is a command line tool that will dump out the desktop heap usage for all the desktops in a given session.

But, there are other ways in the blog, much more difficult ways, to figure out the heap. So I shall continue reading about the solutions.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

[edit]
Well that was a total BUST!!! The other solutions are for 32bit Winders only. Keep on hunting...
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Ok, I made a small registry hack. I changed a value from 768 to 1024. There were 3 values, the 1st no change, the 2nd no change already for 64bit, the 3rd is changed.
The hack was made at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems

And the "Windows" entry, SharedSection value.
The third SharedSection value is the size of the desktop heap for each desktop that is associated with a “non-interactive” window station. The value is in kilobytes (KB).

But there is still no explanation as to why this just suddenly happened.
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Message 1998694 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 18:57:46 UTC

Greetings,

RAM upgrade complete. I'm showing 32 GB with 14% used at this time. BOINC is running, so is the WoW launcher and Firefox.

We'll see what happens when I go into WoW later this afternoon. Fingers crossed... :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 1998736 - Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 23:54:16 UTC

Most likely different than other topics in here....but I have an extra "old" but working GPU. Is there any group in SETI that we can "donate" it to?

Or just, old....meh....toss it?
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Message 1998761 - Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 5:00:40 UTC - in response to Message 1998736.  

Most likely different than other topics in here....but I have an extra "old" but working GPU. Is there any group in SETI that we can "donate" it to?

Or just, old....meh....toss it?


What Brand and Model?

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Message 1998766 - Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 5:18:00 UTC - in response to Message 1998746.  

I only caught a few before the splitters changed tapes, but one was WU 3522701971

Mine is the second (run on a slow-running GTX 750Ti, despite what the host record says): ran over 50 minutes (normal is less than half that), but credit is also high.

I also notice that there is almost the difference of 4 minutes between run-time and CPU time, run-time being longer

Anytime that run_time is longer than cpu_time indicates the cpu is overcommitted. A 4 minute deficit over 50 minutes is acceptable in my opinion.

Thanks Keith. I always keep a core free when using the GPU
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Message 1998767 - Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 5:21:00 UTC - in response to Message 1998729.  
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twice as long as normal, little less than twice the credits. A quick visual average of the valid results seems to be 75-85 for a normal/WU, so getting 145 is roughly double.

It all depends on your wingman.
One of my BLC41 tasks validated against a CPU system, and another against a stock SoG system, and even though it ran for almost 3 times longer than usual, it only got the going rate- about 85 Credits.
Another one that had a considerably shorter run time than the WUs above (less than 2.5 times as long as usual) validated against a stock opencl_ati5_nocal system, and got triple the usual credit.
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Message 1998768 - Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 5:30:32 UTC - in response to Message 1998746.  

Anytime that run_time is longer than cpu_time indicates the cpu is overcommitted. A 4 minute deficit over 50 minutes is acceptable in my opinion.

That is for CPU processing times, not GPU processing time that was being referred to.
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Message 1998771 - Posted: 19 Jun 2019, 6:02:33 UTC

Are you talking about donating it to a "charitable" group to use on SETI, or are you talking about being able to use it yourself for SETI?
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