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Message 2040855 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 14:59:36 UTC

Greetings,

My main is out of tasks and it doesn't look like it will get any, any time soon, if ever. ;)

My other 6 have between 1.5 and 2 days left.

Gettin' near the end... :(

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Message 2040866 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 15:52:15 UTC - in response to Message 2040855.  


Gettin' near the end... :(


I was having hiccups on the gpus on one rig so I switched it to cpu only yesterday.

And the cpu tasks are full up. Switched back to "both" and it promptly came up dry.

So maybe they are discriminating against gpus "at the end" :)

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Message 2040869 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 15:56:05 UTC - in response to Message 2040866.  


Gettin' near the end... :(


I was having hiccups on the gpus on one rig so I switched it to cpu only yesterday.

And the cpu tasks are full up. Switched back to "both" and it promptly came up dry.

So maybe they are discriminating against gpus "at the end" :)

Tom

Hi Tom,

Yeah, but I have neither CPU nor GPU tasks. I'm not really worried about getting any more tasks since there's only 4 days left anyway. :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2040929 - Posted: 27 Mar 2020, 20:06:11 UTC

HMMMPPPHHHHHHHHHH
HMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Errant version of BOINC has been causing issues on one of my hosts - every time a task was completed it errored out a number of other tasks with zero runtime, and the one output file I managed to grab having an error message that translated to "Task didn't start properly". It didn't matter which GPU, indeed how many GPUs were in, or which slots they were in after a fairly short time the errors started pile up quite rapidly, annoyingly if I stared at the screen no errors, but turn round, or leave the room to make a cuppa loads of errors, so I'd shut down scratch my head and try something else.

Once all the hardware combinations had be tried I updated BOINC to a new (test?) version, and the host is now running smoothly.

"Faulty" BOINC version 7.9.3 (part of the distro I think - this machine has sat dormant since last September, but I can't recall it throwing errors back then. Working version 7.17.0, which came from a PPA. (It has a couple of things that are "different" to what I'm used to, and one thing that I made a lot of use of in the last few days - shutting down running tasks without having to kill BOINC completely.)
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Message 2041202 - Posted: 28 Mar 2020, 23:14:20 UTC

A couple of articles that may be of interest.
A comparison between 4 NVMe SSDs and 8 SATA/SAS SSDs on a system using dual Intel Xeon 8280 CPUs with a clock speed of 2.7GHz and 28 cores each. Paired with these CPUs were twelve 32GB 2933MHz DDR4 modules, giving the system a combined memory footprint of 384GB.
SATA v NVMe comparison.

Here's a hint-

(HDDs would be off the top of this graph due to it's scale, that's how poorly they perform compared to even SATA SSDs- it's a shame we didn't have this sort of hardware at Seti. It would have saved Eric a lot of time & effort keeping things running...)



Eight Core Server CPU Performance From Haswell To Rome
After quite a while of rather minimal improvements, there have been some very significant gains in CPU performance over the last 5-6 years or so.
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Message 2041621 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 15:21:02 UTC

Greetings,

I shut down my tablet because it has NO tasks to work on and it tells me it is "waiting for new tasks". Yet the page I linked to tells me the tablet has 1 tasks in progress. How can this be? :\

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Message 2041685 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 18:26:03 UTC

The Replica is still an eternity behind or it's a ghost. Either would explain it.
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Message 2041688 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 18:40:09 UTC - in response to Message 2041685.  

The Replica is still an eternity behind or it's a ghost. Either would explain it.
Looking at my external (exported) stats - I use BOINCstats, but others are available and get their data from the same place - the score is still a long way behind but seems to be catching up. It must be reporting from somewhere - and unless we have a third database somewhere I don't know about - it must be coming from the replica, and that must be at least keeping up.
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Message 2041884 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 5:19:51 UTC

I had a look at a system that's been attached to Collatz for some time.
A GTX 1070 is good for almost 5.4 million RAC. A single GTX 1070.
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Message 2041897 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 7:35:14 UTC

Wondering if anyone knows what version of the BOINC Manager got the "Finish file present too long" fix?
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Message 2041902 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 8:01:51 UTC
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No change needed to the manager (which runs on the host, not the server).
Eric posted to say he'd added then removed a script that was supposed to send out more than just one resend for a task that was probably not gong to be "simple" to validate (I read that as heading to being "inconclusive"). But the script didn't work as intended.

Edit to add:
The message "Too many total results" has been there a long time and is embedded in the generic server (messages) template file - I guess it has never been triggered on SETI before.
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Message 2041907 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 8:19:22 UTC - in response to Message 2041897.  

Wondering if anyone knows what version of the BOINC Manager got the "Finish file present too long" fix?
The client code was merged into the sources from which the client is built on Mar 30, 2019, with a second ('belt and braces') fix on Oct 18, 2019.

You will notice that v7.14.2 was released in October 2018, a year earlier. So that's a no. There is currently a v7.16.5 Beta available - that should fix it.
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Message 2041909 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 8:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 2041907.  

Wondering if anyone knows what version of the BOINC Manager got the "Finish file present too long" fix?
The client code was merged into the sources from which the client is built on Mar 30, 2019, with a second ('belt and braces') fix on Oct 18, 2019.

You will notice that v7.14.2 was released in October 2018, a year earlier. So that's a no. There is currently a v7.16.5 Beta available - that should fix it.
Ta.
Just been looking at some of the systems at Rosetta, and for those with oodles of cores & threads, "Finish file present too long" appears to be one of the bigger causes of errors there (along with out of memory errors).
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Message 2041921 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 9:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 2041685.  

The Replica is still an eternity behind or it's a ghost. Either would explain it.

Hi Grant,

So they're still getting stats from the replica. I figured that since stats were being updated more frequently now that the stats weren't coming from the replica. Guess I should stop figuring stuff. ;)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2041923 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 10:00:30 UTC - in response to Message 2041921.  

So they're still getting stats from the replica. I figured that since stats were being updated more frequently now that the stats weren't coming from the replica. Guess I should stop figuring stuff. ;)
They did have the Task information coming from the main database for a while, but sometime after it ground to a halt they moved it back to the Replica. Which is now only 4 days behind.
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Message 2042079 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 21:40:15 UTC

I am getting resends on the gpu's and maybe upto 50% on the cpu side.

So I am guessing it will take a while for the resend volume to come down. Which means the "appearance of still live" will be extended.

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Message 2042106 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 23:43:49 UTC - in response to Message 2041884.  

I had a look at a system that's been attached to Collatz for some time.
A GTX 1070 is good for almost 5.4 million RAC. A single GTX 1070.

Thanks for the information Grant. Is this system running Linux or Windows?
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Message 2042110 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 23:53:22 UTC - in response to Message 2042106.  

I had a look at a system that's been attached to Collatz for some time.
A GTX 1070 is good for almost 5.4 million RAC. A single GTX 1070.
Thanks for the information Grant. Is this system running Linux or Windows?
You only need Windows and a fair GPU there to get a ridiculous RAC. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 2042119 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 0:26:39 UTC - in response to Message 2042110.  

I had a look at a system that's been attached to Collatz for some time.
A GTX 1070 is good for almost 5.4 million RAC. A single GTX 1070.
Thanks for the information Grant. Is this system running Linux or Windows?
You only need Windows and a fair GPU there to get a ridiculous RAC. ;-)

Cheers.

Thanks Wingo I am aware that you can get a ridiculous RAC with a Windows machine however I am interested to know whether this is a Linux or Windows machine that Grant is referring to.
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