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Message 2005174 - Posted: 1 Aug 2019, 15:20:24 UTC

AVX 512 new set of instructions. Will that help at Seti?

I saw the new intel ice lake cpu's have those.
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Message 2005177 - Posted: 1 Aug 2019, 15:27:39 UTC - in response to Message 2005174.  

SETI does not have any AVX 512 apps that I am aware of.

there are AVX2 apps however.
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Message 2005194 - Posted: 1 Aug 2019, 17:03:13 UTC - in response to Message 2005177.  

They will run faster than the stock apps on newer cpus. But they do run the cpus a lot harder with much higher temps. I had to stop running the AVX app on my new 3900X cpu because it was overtemping.

Still having erratic over temp issues on the daily driver for some reason. Was off for four hours overnight until I woke up and found the PC sitting on the BIOS splash screen with the error. But the temps really are never really that high to trip the error in fact.
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Message 2005294 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 6:58:56 UTC

Does anyone know how to stop a S8 plus from receiving work but allow it to complete work it has on board & report it? Using version 7.4.53
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Message 2005296 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 7:13:48 UTC - in response to Message 2005294.  

Does anyone know how to stop a S8 plus from receiving work but allow it to complete work it has on board & report it? Using version 7.4.53

Taking a guess S8 refers to a phone. Samsung Galaxy S8 plus?
You need to set No New Tasks in the BOINC menu. Touch the hamburger menu on the left of the BOINC app. Then touch the Seti@home selection. Then touch the 3 vertical dots on the top right.
That pulls up the standard Update-Suspend-No new tasks-Reset-Remove menu in the Manager.
Touch the No new tasks selection. You won't ask for any more work but will finish and report what you have.
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Message 2005297 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 7:14:24 UTC - in response to Message 2005162.  

I remember my old coco (radio shack color computer). My dad spent a fortune on that thing. I started out with the tape recorder to save programs, so I was so happy when he splurged for the disk drive. Anyone else use the hole punch to make the notch so you could flip the disks and use the other side? I thought I was so smart :-)

My first computer as well, the original Tandy Color Computer with 16k RAM and Extended Color Basic, and eventually we did the 64k RAM hack- a kit with a bunch of RAM chips, some lengths of wire & a photocopy of the instructions.
The floppy drive and controller cost more than the computer- I think the computer was around $400, the floppy & controller were around $700.
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Message 2005299 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 7:32:05 UTC - in response to Message 2005296.  

Does anyone know how to stop a S8 plus from receiving work but allow it to complete work it has on board & report it? Using version 7.4.53

Taking a guess S8 refers to a phone. Samsung Galaxy S8 plus?
You need to set No New Tasks in the BOINC menu. Touch the hamburger menu on the left of the BOINC app. Then touch the Seti@home selection. Then touch the 3 vertical dots on the top right.
That pulls up the standard Update-Suspend-No new tasks-Reset-Remove menu in the Manager.
Touch the No new tasks selection. You won't ask for any more work but will finish and report what you have.

Thanks Keith. Yes you were correct it is a Samsung galaxy S8+ thanks your instructions worked a treat
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Message 2005317 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 11:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 2005297.  

I remember my old coco (radio shack color computer). My dad spent a fortune on that thing. I started out with the tape recorder to save programs, so I was so happy when he splurged for the disk drive. Anyone else use the hole punch to make the notch so you could flip the disks and use the other side? I thought I was so smart :-)

My first computer as well, the original Tandy Color Computer with 16k RAM and Extended Color Basic, and eventually we did the 64k RAM hack- a kit with a bunch of RAM chips, some lengths of wire & a photocopy of the instructions.
The floppy drive and controller cost more than the computer- I think the computer was around $400, the floppy & controller were around $700.

Hi Grant,

I got my first CoCo 3 as a Christmas gift in 1998 I think. Couldn't really do much with it right away. The friends that gave it to me said it was "IBM Compatible". They didn't know about computers, 'course I was new to them too. ;) My first monitor was a green screen and playing a cartridge game on it looked really weird.

Anyway, I would go into Radio Shack every Friday after cashing my paycheck and would spend some of it on something. One day I had enough to get the floppy and controller. I was so happy to add that to the CoCo. The next Friday I was in drooling over getting OS-9 and some game (don't remember what game). I didn't really have the funds, rent and bills you know. The manager walked up to me and started chatting with me and ask if I bought the floppy and controller the week before. I told him yes. He said "We owe you $100 bucks!" Their policy was that if something goes on sale within 30 days of you buying it, you get the difference back. I told him "Then I want this and this!" I grabbed the OS-9 and the game and was happy as a lark.

I bought a second CoCo 3 and did some hacking on it (didn't want to ruin my first one). I removed the 6809 CPU and soldered a socket in its place then reinstalled the CPU. Worked like a champ. I then upgraded it from the 6809 to the new 6309 which was slightly faster. I did the memory upgrade to... I think it was 512MB... Just more nostalgia! :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2005323 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 12:16:32 UTC

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What is invalid about this task? I cannot determine what it is.

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2005324 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 12:29:44 UTC - in response to Message 2005323.  

Greetings,

What is invalid about this task? I cannot determine what it is.

Have a great day! :)

Siran


The 2 wingmen found 30 single pulses whilst your GPU found other signals.
My hard guess would be that your result is the good one.
Bad luck.


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Message 2005327 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 12:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 2005324.  

Greetings,

What is invalid about this task? I cannot determine what it is.

Have a great day! :)

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The 2 wingmen found 30 single pulses whilst your GPU found other signals.
My hard guess would be that your result is the good one.
Bad luck.

Hi Mike,

Tell me that's fair! Nothing wrong with my WU process and yet I don't get credit because 2 others "matched" instead?

That's like being 1 of 3 children and mom says you'll get a treat if you clean your rooms. So 2 clean theirs in 2 hours and the 1 take 2 hours and 1 minute, so the other 2 get a treat but the 1 does not because he/she didn't get done when the other 2 did. Yeah, I know, bad analogy, but the only thing I could come up with on such short notice. ;)

Thanks Mike and have a great day! :)

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Message 2005328 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 12:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 2005327.  
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Hi Mike,

Tell me that's fair! Nothing wrong with my WU process and yet I don't get credit because 2 others "matched" instead?

That's like being 1 of 3 children and mom says you'll get a treat if you clean your rooms. So 2 clean theirs in 2 hours and the 1 take 2 hours and 1 minute, so the other 2 get a treat but the 1 does not because he/she didn't get done when the other 2 did. Yeah, I know, bad analogy, but the only thing I could come up with on such short notice. ;)

Thanks Mike and have a great day! :)

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This is how SETI works. It's how it has always worked, the two systems that agree are the ones that get the credit. How is the project to know that YOU are right when it has two other people who disagree with your result and they match each other, think of it from a logical point of view. The only solution to this problem would be to resend out tasks are require a higher level of quorum say, requiring 3 matches instead of 2, but that would result in more load on the already fragile servers. In small cases like this it's unfortunate, but nothing to get up in arms about, the system works most of the time.

But why are you still running the v0.97 app? The v0.98b1 app has been available for quite some time and provide a good speed boost. you should switch to the newest app.
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Message 2005329 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 13:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 2005328.  


Hi Mike,

Tell me that's fair! Nothing wrong with my WU process and yet I don't get credit because 2 others "matched" instead?

That's like being 1 of 3 children and mom says you'll get a treat if you clean your rooms. So 2 clean theirs in 2 hours and the 1 take 2 hours and 1 minute, so the other 2 get a treat but the 1 does not because he/she didn't get done when the other 2 did. Yeah, I know, bad analogy, but the only thing I could come up with on such short notice. ;)

Thanks Mike and have a great day! :)

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This is how SETI works. It's how it has always worked, the two systems that agree are the ones that get the credit. How is the project to know that YOU are right when it has two other people who disagree with your result and they match each other, think of it from a logical point of view. The only solution to this problem would be to resend out tasks are require a higher level of quorum say, requiring 3 matches instead of 2, but that would result in more load on the already fragile servers. In small cases like this it's unfortunate, but nothing to get up in arms about, the system works most of the time.

But why are you still running the v0.97 app? The v0.98b1 app has been available for quite some time and provide a good speed boost. you should switch to the newest app.

Hi Ian,

I'm not up in arms about it. Since I could not find anything in the file to invalidate the WU, I was just wondering. Mike did say that mine was probably the good one anyway. It's only one WU. Now if I had 100 WUs like that, I believe that would be cause for alarm, especially if there is nothing wrong with the results of those 100. ;)

As for the "latest and greatest" app, I'm a noob when it comes to Linux and I usually go by the mantra: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Perhaps one day I'll check into what I have to do to upgrade the app. The Linux PC is out doing my Winders PC anyway. Some day maybe... :)

Have a great day! :)

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Message 2005344 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 15:14:14 UTC - in response to Message 2005329.  

like I said, it's a system that has rules. it has two systems that agree with each other and disagrees with you. that's why they get the credit and you are marked "invalid", it's just the category name it gets put under, there is no category for "doesn't match others but probably correct", the project has no way of determining that with it's current rules. it's just following it's programming. It assumes the correct result is the one with a consensus between 2 people. you got unlucky, nothing more. it happens.
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Message 2005345 - Posted: 2 Aug 2019, 15:19:48 UTC - in response to Message 2005329.  
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Just so you don't feel bad about your one work unit being invalid, when my big system's cooling pump died, the cards overheated and made around six thousand of them before I shut it down. Of course it had to be in the wee hours when I was sleeping. :^)

It's what happens and it's why the quorum system is set up the way it is... most of us are using consumer-grade (ie not very precise or reliable) hardware and operating systems, and running other things on our computer that can interfere. So invalids are occasionally generated and the project has to be able to weed them out.
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Message 2005403 - Posted: 3 Aug 2019, 0:08:53 UTC

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Message 2005412 - Posted: 3 Aug 2019, 0:52:10 UTC - in response to Message 2005323.  

Greetings,

What is invalid about this task? I cannot determine what it is.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

All the other discussion plus the two that validated are on AMD and you aren't. It might be as simple as floating point rounding being done differently by different chip designers. That might be something the code authors might need to look at.
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Message 2005437 - Posted: 3 Aug 2019, 2:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 2005412.  

All the other discussion plus the two that validated are on AMD and you aren't. It might be as simple as floating point rounding being done differently by different chip designers. That might be something the code authors might need to look at.

It's a hardware/application issue that's been around for a while now.
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Message 2005823 - Posted: 5 Aug 2019, 7:12:24 UTC

Is there a major difference in work unit processing time between a gigabyte 2070 and a gigabyte 2070 super?
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Is there a major difference in work unit processing time between a gigabyte 2070 and a gigabyte 2070 super?
There should be.
Haven't seen any in use yet, but in the all the reviews the RTX 2070 Super is slightly behind to on par with an RTX 2080, a good step up from the RTX 2070.
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