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Message 1949437 - Posted: 13 Aug 2018, 20:40:15 UTC
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All his baiting responses are in response to:

Whatever reason you are stopped. Even if you don't agree and you may be incorrect in your belief. Comply with all police orders, and later make the complaint.

Yes, the baiter on the end of his hook, is squirming and squirming ;)
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Message 1949439 - Posted: 13 Aug 2018, 20:51:46 UTC

Police officers are trained and sworn to uphold law and order. A normal duty shift might include transporting a drunk driver to a detoxification facility, intervening in a domestic assault, citing underage drinkers, apprehending a shoplifter, handling a traffic accident, investigating burglaries and executing search warrants. Each call requires completion of forms and reports. Occasionally, an officer will be summoned to testify in court about the incident and circumstances of the arrest.

Along with traditional duties, police officers today engage in many proactive initiatives. They get out of their cars, walk around and interact with families and business owners in their assigned neighborhoods. An effort is made to get acquainted on a first name basis with leaders of schools, organizations and churches. Examples of proactive outreach include helping to organize a neighborhood watch, giving presentations to schools and speaking to residents about their concerns at a neighborhood association meeting. Building trust with diverse communities and working collaboratively to address social issues, such as gang violence, is an especially important function of the police.


Sadly there are times that trust is betrayed in a despicable manner.
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Message 1949442 - Posted: 13 Aug 2018, 20:58:18 UTC
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Sorry, you can't hide from all your baiting posts, in response to:

Whatever reason you are stopped. Even if you don't agree and you may be incorrect in your belief. Comply with all police orders, and later make the complaint.

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Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Message 1949454 - Posted: 13 Aug 2018, 22:06:34 UTC - in response to Message 1949442.  

It's a funny coincidence that murdering, raping & thieving cop displayed the very tendencies that you have been spouting about in other threads about murdering & raping of innocents. Funny thing here though is that it is not Iran or North Korea, or Nazi's or Commies. The only difference is that he is a "good ole American boy".

Another funny coincidence is blatantly obvious.
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Message 1949490 - Posted: 14 Aug 2018, 0:39:31 UTC



Cast your bait in another pond :-D
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Message 1949916 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:50:50 UTC

I wonder if this might be educational, BBC1 23:45 - NYPD: Biggest Gang in New York?
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Message 1949919 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:58:47 UTC - in response to Message 1949916.  

Definitely going to watch that. :-)

The programme also meets whistleblowing NYPD officers who allege systemic racism in the department.
Ah yes, New York's finest. :-)
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Message 1949922 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 18:22:58 UTC - in response to Message 1949916.  
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I wonder if this might be educational, BBC1 23:45 - NYPD: Biggest Gang in New York?
BBC iPlayer only works in the UK.
However here is a working link.
https://www.steelefilms.net/watchfilms/2017/5/12/nypd-biggest-gang-in-new-york-
Do really NYPD need TEN officers "arresting" using excessive violence a person who throw a cigarette but on the street?
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Message 1949926 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 18:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 1949922.  
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I'm 17 minutes 14 seconds in & paused to make a cuppa.

WHAT a fine bunch of upstanding police officers.

Hey Clyde, WHATEVER happened to their rights granted to them since birth that were enumerated in the U.S. Constitution?
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Message 1949928 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 18:57:13 UTC - in response to Message 1949926.  

Coffe with a donut I guess:)
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Message 1949929 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 19:01:11 UTC - in response to Message 1949928.  
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Coffe with a donut I guess:)
Yep, a New York donut. :-)

Currently fiction, but how long before it becomes fact?

Edit 2: Maybe the cop watchers should use drones. :-)
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Message 1949932 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 19:15:15 UTC
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This one was making the rounds yesterday...

In summary, an NYPD officer on vacation in Nashville got so drunk he returned "home" to the wrong house, one next door to his AirBNB rental. When he found the door locked, he kicked it open and entered, threatened the family, and called them a rather horrid N-word... other than "Nashville" or "New York". 😀

And now I will balance it out with something positive that happened here last week:

Toronto police mounted a dramatic elevator rescue on Tuesday night while the city was being drenched by a heavy rainfall that caused flash flooding, street closures and several cars to be trapped in flooded underpasses.

Two men had to be rescued from an elevator that was stuck in the basement of a commercial building in the city’s north end.

Police spokeswoman Katrina Arrogante said water had almost filled the elevator before the men were rescued by officers who had to swim down to the basement to get them out.

“The water level has rose to six feet and there was only one foot of air space left for the two males to breathe,” she said, adding that the men were able to keep their heads above water by standing on handrails inside the elevator.

“The two officers answering the call then found a crowbar and swam into the basement location of the commercial building, pried open the elevator and rescued the two males that were stuck inside,” Arrogante told The Canadian Press.


They stated they were just doing their jobs, but of course it was was beyond their job description; they could have claimed it was too dangerous and waited for better-equipped responders. Huge kudos to them for not doing that.
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Message 1949933 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 19:29:04 UTC

Balance, then this:
https://abc7.com/ex-lapd-officer-pleads-no-contest-to-sexually-abusing-former-cadet/3964763/
A former Los Angeles Police Department officer accused of sexually abusing a 15-year-old female police cadet pleaded no contest Wednesday and was sentenced to two years in state prison.

Robert Cain agreed to a plea deal on two felony charges in exchange for a two year sentence. The victim, who is now 16 years old, filed a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment, emotional distress and civil rights violations against the ex-LAPD officer.

Cain resigned last year after being arrested by then LAPD Chief Charlie Beck after an investigation into Cain's involvement in the theft of police cruisers and other equipment by juveniles in the department's cadet program. The investigation revealed allegations of sex abuse.

The girl Cain is accused of abusing was one of the seven cadets arrested for allegedly stealing LAPD cruisers.

The victim was 15 years old when Cain engaged in an unlawful sexual relationship with her.
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Message 1949937 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 19:34:39 UTC

After watching that video, just one sentence by a child says it all: "Who's picking me up from school today?"
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Message 1949948 - Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 20:51:39 UTC
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I'm still wondering why the police in the US have to use so much violence to enforce the law.
And so many officers to handle a single suspect.
In Sweden and also Russia(!) it's very different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvRCKmqGVrw
And Russia vs USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liLL_TQaXRM
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Message 1950281 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 13:07:09 UTC - in response to Message 1949948.  
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I'm still wondering why the police in the US have to use so much violence to enforce the law.
And so many officers to handle a single suspect.
In Sweden and also Russia(!) it's very different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvRCKmqGVrw
And Russia vs USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liLL_TQaXRM

moomin….Our Society and criminals are very violent. Fighting the police has become very prevalent in our Society. Unless we want to return the old days.

Understand the physical power of those on certain drugs, emotional problems, etc. and their being unresponsive to pain. The least force used on a subject on drugs or mental conditions, emotional and physical state. May involve four officers to hold down and secure. One for each hand/arm. One to secure the legs and one to secure the subject from biting and/or spitting.

Now include loved ones and some in the community nearby…
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Message 1950295 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 14:03:55 UTC - in response to Message 1950281.  

moomin….Our Society and criminals are very violent. Fighting the police has become very prevalent in our Society. Unless we want to return the old days.
So your "feeble" excuse for this is?
On July 17, 2014, Eric Garner died in Staten Island, New York City, after a New York City Police Department (NYPD) officer put him in a headlock for about 15 to 19 seconds while arresting him. NYPD policy prohibits the use of chokeholds. The officer denied choking Garner despite being on video doing so, but the New York City Medical Examiner's Office report stated "Cause of Death: Compression of neck, compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police".
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Message 1950308 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 14:45:08 UTC - in response to Message 1950295.  
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moomin….Our Society and criminals are very violent. Fighting the police has become very prevalent in our Society. Unless we want to return the old days.
So your "feeble" excuse for this is?On July 17, 2014, Eric Garner died in Staten Island, New York City, after a New York City Police Department (NYPD) officer put him in a headlock for about 15 to 19 seconds while arresting him. NYPD policy prohibits the use of chokeholds. The officer denied choking Garner despite being on video doing so, but the New York City Medical Examiner's Office report stated "Cause of Death: Compression of neck, compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police".

Another personal and malicious attack disguised as a question.
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Message 1950329 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 16:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 1950308.  

Another personal and malicious attack disguised as a question.

How can you condone what happened to Eric Garner? Clearly your moral compass is missing.
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Message 1950330 - Posted: 17 Aug 2018, 16:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 1950281.  

Understand the physical power of those on certain drugs, emotional problems, etc. and their being unresponsive to pain. The least force used on a subject on drugs or mental conditions, emotional and physical state. May involve four officers to hold down and secure. One for each hand/arm. One to secure the legs and one to secure the subject from biting and/or spitting.
I don't buy that. There are many similary situations here (yes we have violent people here as well) but it doesn't go so far as in the US.
Four officers to handle a drunk person? Give me a break.
If so in Sweden we have to employ at least twice of much of police officers.
In Russia three times of police officers:)
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