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It just never seems to end does it? :-( Virginia police officer accused of assaulting U.S. Army officer fired. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Change of soundbite? Police "regret" |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
I only meant to taser him yeah, right. |
rob smith ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22652 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 ![]() ![]() |
If she only meant to user her taser then that sounds like very poor training and positioning of the gun and taser on the kit. The two weapons should be positioned to keep them well physically separated, and training used to make sure that they are no such mistakes. Plus of course the feel of the two weapons should be very different, again different feel. A whole lot of errors in that even before we get to the shooting itself. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
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until the training can replicate the levels of adrenaline that a real encounter will generate ... |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19482 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Other things I noted in news reports; The pistols have a trigger safety and the tazers do not. Brooklyn Center Police Department protocol dictates that officers wear their guns on their dominant side and Tasers on the opposite side of their bodies, to reduce the risk that they will confuse the two weapons. But this doesn't stop them having the tazers in a cross draw position so they can be used with the dominant hand. “all Taser devices shall be clearly and distinctly marked to differentiate them from the duty weapon and any other device.” The device should not be used against people “whose position or activity may result in collateral injury” — including people who are “operating vehicles.” Mr. Wright was sitting in the driver’s seat and his car traveled several blocks after he was shot. IMO it all points to a lack of training. |
Ian&Steve C. ![]() Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 ![]() ![]() |
The pistols have a trigger safety and the tazers do not. depends on which firearm is used/issued by this police department. I know many departments like to issue Glock model pistols, and while these technically have a safety, it's a safety that is built into the trigger assembly and the act of pulling the trigger with your finger releases the safety. it basically only prevents unintended trigger activation from something like a drop or other outside forces other than a finger pulling back on the trigger. If you put your finger on the trigger of a Glock and pull, and a round is chambered, it'll fire. If you pull the side of the main trigger without activating the safety trigger in the middle, it will be prevented from being pulled. this is different than some other models that have a separate button or lock away from the trigger area that needs to be released prior to pulling the trigger. pic: Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours ![]() ![]() |
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I only meant to taser himIt seems that things are really heating over this now. A police station has been set on fire and a police officer and her family have fled as her house was surrounded by furious protesters. Officer Kim Potter has now been charged with manslaughter over Mr Wright’s death. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
An interesting series started on Wednesday. Available to all those who can access iPlayer. Bent coppers: Crossing the line of duty |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Just finished watching it. Be interesting to see what the next episodes will highlight. It did bring back many good memories of that time. Sadly, it also brought back several bad ones. Bear in mind that the night buses were 1 per hour. Finishing a late shift this particular night, I managed to catch the last Circle & got off at Liverpool St. Didn't have too long a wait for a night bus heading in the direction I wanted. Got off at Dalston Junction & saw the night bus I needed in the distance, just missed it. From there to where I lived was approx. 30 minute walk away, so 2 choices, wait 1 hour or walk. I walked. Being a very cold day, I was wearing my overcoat. I was halfway down Graham Rd when I heard a voice. "Where are you off to lad?" Turned, looked, 2 coppers in vehicle. "Home" "Where have you been to at this hour of the night?" "Working" "Doing what?" Rather than say anything unbuttoned my overcoat & pulled to one side so my uniform would be visible. "Why didn't you say so in the 1st place?" Oh, I forgot to mention that I was also carrying my equipment bag on my shoulder. It was all black but did have a worldwide famous symbol on the front. The only difference between the worldwide famous symbol which is red, is that the one displayed on my bag was white (for obvious reasons of course). Highly visible We had "very" intelligent coppers them days. :-) That was one of the reasons why I bought a motorbike. All good & well having free travel but when one finished a very late shift or did an early shift with the 1st train out of the depot approx. 4am, & the 1st buses starting approx. the same time, crossing from East to North London... Edited for spelling. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
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Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Technology to the rescue. :-) It took 3 to take the car to the station? No wonder one can never see a copper around when they're needed. |
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Very good that this is being seen 'completely out in the open': George Floyd death: Five key moments from the Derek Chauvin trial wrote: ... Mr Chauvin's three-week trial, on charges of murder and manslaughter, has heard from 45 witnesses and seen hours of video footage filmed by bystanders... The really hard part is how all that is judged and for what positive progress is then made. Very glad I'm not the judge presiding over that one! All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Despite the badly suspicious press, I think this is rather a good idea and a good example here with a good outcome: NYPD Deploys "Creepy" New Robot Dog In Manhattan Public Housing Complex wrote: ... Since October, the NYPD has dispatched the robot to a handful of crime scenes and hostage situations... Fantastic addition to the team. No "do or die" scary hair-trigger moments for the approaching police. No "Wild West shootout". Very good result for facing what very well may have been a deadly gun wielding crazy shooter. All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Derek Chauvin found guilty on all counts in the murder of George Floyd. Chauvin, 45, was found guilty of second- and third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. |
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Also: George Floyd: Chauvin conviction a giant step forward, says Biden wrote: ... In televised remarks shortly afterwards, Mr Biden said that such a verdict was "much too rare". And yet unfortunately, there is this fraught encounter that looks all too ripe to be sensationalized badly: Ohio shooting: Columbus police shoot dead black teenage girl wrote: A police officer in the US state of Ohio has shot dead a 16-year-old black girl while responding to an emergency call over an attempted stabbing... How can the police hope to deal with guns and knives with a split second before 'do or die'?... And how can stereotyping be avoided when seeing situations that are repeated?... ... There has to be a better approach all round. All in our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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Oh dear, how low can it go? :-( US police officers who roughed up and laughed at elderly dementia patient resign. Three Colorado cops involved in the brutal arrest of a 73-year-old woman with dementia — and later seen laughing and joking about the incident — have resigned, US police said on Friday. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Both soldiers were interviewed by the Historical Enquiries Team (HET) in 2010 and it was this evidence that formed the prosecution's case.11 years to decide to prosecute & 49 years after the incident. Normal people know the law is the law. Time to remove the dildos applying it. Trial collapses Scared so they beat crap out of him & kicked him in the head. Coppers today |
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