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Message 1932309 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018, 13:51:22 UTC

A continuation of I hope that this cop gets to feel the full force of the law. #4 As per the OP there: "If anyone wishes to continue the "Good cop, Bad cop" discussion. Open your own thread."

As the last thread was closed due to offtopic back-and-forth sniping I guess I have to set the OP as I did with the Donald Trump thread.

The topic of this thread is Police and Law Enforcement, including both the bad (police corruption, crimes committed by police officers, systemic ethnic/racial bias in police forces, etc.) and good (heroic and above-and-beyond actions by police officers and police departments, etc.)
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Message 1932320 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018, 14:27:29 UTC

For years the RotW followed where the US lead.

Time the US followed Britain's lead?
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Message 1932327 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018, 15:03:18 UTC

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Message 1932330 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018, 15:18:04 UTC - in response to Message 1932327.  

A boost for DNA & family trees :-)

That's an interesting way to search, send the suspect DNA to the genealogy sites and ask for family matches. Don't even have to tell the genealogy site you are the cops when you send the sample and the fee.
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Message 1932333 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018, 15:22:54 UTC - in response to Message 1932330.  

Agree but not long after seeing that on the BBC website, I saw another which I posted the link in the computer thread. Like everything else, it could be open to abuse :-(
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Message 1932406 - Posted: 27 Apr 2018, 22:53:09 UTC

Another day this time 2 cops
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-arrests-20180427-story.html
Cmdr. Nicole Mehringer was arrested on suspicion of being intoxicated in public at about 1:45 a.m. near Lomita Avenue and Brand Boulevard, a Glendale police spokeswoman said.

An LAPD spokeswoman confirmed that another "department supervisor" was also arrested. Glendale police identified him as James Kelly and said he was taken into custody on suspicion of driving under the influence.
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Message 1932502 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 13:16:42 UTC - in response to Message 1932406.  
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Another day this time 2 cops
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-arrests-20180427-story.html
Cmdr. Nicole Mehringer was arrested on suspicion of being intoxicated in public at about 1:45 a.m. near Lomita Avenue and Brand Boulevard, a Glendale police spokeswoman said.

An LAPD spokeswoman confirmed that another "department supervisor" was also arrested. Glendale police identified him as James Kelly and said he was taken into custody on suspicion of driving under the influence.

As with all professions. Just look at the continuous arrests of teachers sexually abusing their underage students. There are relatively few, considering the amount of people in that profession, who should never have been employed.

No... The teaching profession not a 'hot bed' of sexual abuse. Nor is the Law Enforcement profession a 'hot bed' of...

Having said that. Law Enforcement must, understanding the power entrusted to it, be held to a very high standard. Whereas many violations in other professions result in reprimands, suspensions and/or termination.

In Law Enforcement, some of the same 'violations' may properly be considered criminal.
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Message 1932511 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 14:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 1932502.  

Another day this time 2 cops
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-arrests-20180427-story.html
Cmdr. Nicole Mehringer was arrested on suspicion of being intoxicated in public at about 1:45 a.m. near Lomita Avenue and Brand Boulevard, a Glendale police spokeswoman said.

An LAPD spokeswoman confirmed that another "department supervisor" was also arrested. Glendale police identified him as James Kelly and said he was taken into custody on suspicion of driving under the influence.

As with all professions. Just look at the continuous arrests of teachers sexually abusing their underage students. There are relatively few, considering the amount of people in that profession, who should never have been employed.

No... The teaching profession not a 'hot bed' of sexual abuse. Nor is the Law Enforcement profession a 'hot bed' of...

That LA Times article references 5 officers from the LAPD busted in 5 days, that is a rate of one a day. Extrapolating, 365 cops a day from a department of 9000 officers is 4.055555555555556% of the officers busted a year. That is a "hot bed" Deal with the realities of today.
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Message 1932513 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 14:27:49 UTC - in response to Message 1932511.  
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Another day this time 2 cops
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-arrests-20180427-story.html
Cmdr. Nicole Mehringer was arrested on suspicion of being intoxicated in public at about 1:45 a.m. near Lomita Avenue and Brand Boulevard, a Glendale police spokeswoman said.

An LAPD spokeswoman confirmed that another "department supervisor" was also arrested. Glendale police identified him as James Kelly and said he was taken into custody on suspicion of driving under the influence.

As with all professions. Just look at the continuous arrests of teachers sexually abusing their underage students. There are relatively few, considering the amount of people in that profession, who should never have been employed.

No... The teaching profession not a 'hot bed' of sexual abuse. Nor is the Law Enforcement profession a 'hot bed' of...

That LA Times article references 5 officers from the LAPD busted in 5 days, that is a rate of one a day. Extrapolating, 365 cops a day from a department of 9000 officers is 4.055555555555556% of the officers busted a year. That is a "hot bed" Deal with the realities of today.

365 over the next 365 days?

Edit: If so... They must also be held to a higher level of responsibility.

BTW: Notice the amount of Liberal California's Law Enforcement negatively making the news?

Hmmmmmmm :)

Having noted your post:

Law Enforcement must, understanding the power entrusted to it, be held to a very high standard. Whereas many violations in other professions result in reprimands, suspensions and/or termination.

In Law Enforcement, some of the same 'violations' may properly be considered criminal.
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Message 1932514 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 14:52:02 UTC

Is "shoot to kill" next a policy which could be thought of as valid?

Or perhaps not policy above, but rather a statutory right, when it sometimes happens.
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Message 1932515 - Posted: 28 Apr 2018, 14:53:36 UTC - in response to Message 1932514.  
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Is "shoot to kill" next a policy which could be thought of as valid?

Or perhaps not policy above, but rather a statutory right, when it sometimes happens.

"Shoot to stop" a perceived immediate threat to life, is the necessary policy.

"Shoot to kill" is not.
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Message 1932693 - Posted: 29 Apr 2018, 17:48:07 UTC

So much for police & law enforcement :-(

Another expensive failure to disclose evidence
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Message 1933643 - Posted: 4 May 2018, 17:29:44 UTC

Once an LAPD, always an LAPD.
http://gossiponthis.com/2018/05/04/stacey-koon-former-lapd-cop-police-officer-sgt-jailed-rodney-king-beating-arrested-dui/
According to multiple news reports out of Los Angeles County, 67-year-old Stacey Koon was arrested on suspicion of DUI after he crashed into a parked car Tuesday (May 1).
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Message 1933645 - Posted: 4 May 2018, 17:34:19 UTC
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Another day, another cop
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2018/05/04/milwaukee-cop-suspended-violent-arrest-caught-video/
Four Milwaukee police officers are under investigation for kicking and punching an African American man while he was restrained on the ground during a confrontational arrest that was captured in several videos.


Another day, another cop
https://nypost.com/2018/05/03/cop-suspended-after-suspect-being-kicked-in-the-head-caught-on-video/
MIAMI — A Miami police officer was suspended with pay Thursday after a Facebook video showed a surrendering auto theft suspect being kicked in the head.

The Miami Herald reports that Police Chief Jorge Colina announced that Officer Mario Figueroa has been relieved of duty as the video “depicts a clear violation of policy.”


Another day, another cop
https://www.theroot.com/cop-who-killed-alton-sterling-caught-on-video-slapping-1825679955
According to the New York Post, Blane Salamoni, whose name sounds like the villain from a Scorsese Mafia movie, received a summons for simple battery on Friday after a review of his bodycam footage showed him assaulting an arrestee less than a month prior to the July 5, 2016, death of Sterling.


Another day, another cop
http://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/franklin-township-officer-on-leave-after-video-shows-suspect-being-kicked-in-head/1157352036
FRANKLIN TOWNSHIP, OH (WCMH) - A Franklin Township police officer is on leave after video posted to social media shows an officer kicking a suspect in the head while he was detained on the ground.

NBC4's Ted Hart confirms the officer was placed on administrative leave pending an internal investigation.

Video shows a detained suspect on the ground being held by another officer when a second officer walks up and appears to kick the suspect in the head. The video, which was posted to Twitter early Wednesday morning, has been viewed more than 258,000 times.
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Message 1935181 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 17:02:58 UTC

Another day, Another Cop
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/officer-suspended-police-investigating-arrest-of-65-year-old-woman-during-traffic-stop/747318481
Thursday 5/10/2018 ORIGINAL STORY: Alpharetta police have suspended an officer and opened an internal investigation into his conduct after he used profanity and forcefully grabbed a 65-year-old diabetic grandmother during a traffic stop.

Watch, this will be the total punishment ...
Friday 5/11/2018 UPDATE: The officer has resigned.
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Message 1935202 - Posted: 11 May 2018, 18:41:13 UTC

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Message 1935352 - Posted: 12 May 2018, 13:58:08 UTC

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Message 1935813 - Posted: 15 May 2018, 23:07:58 UTC

Yep, again
http://abc7.com/lapd-officer-charged-on-suspicion-of-sexually-assaulting-a-minor/3478824/
LOS ANGELES (KABC) --
A Los Angeles police officer was arrested and charged with sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl in her home in Torrance last month.

Kenneth Collard, 51, of Riverside, was charged with three counts of lewd acts upon a child and one count of sexual penetration with a foreign object, according to the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office.

On April 4, Collard is said to have stayed at a friend's home in Torrance, when he is suspected of entering the victim's room in the middle of the night and sexually assaulting her.
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Message 1935848 - Posted: 16 May 2018, 5:19:49 UTC

#2 for today ...
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-glendale-indictment-20180515-story.html
As far back as 2015, a Glendale narcotics detective used burner phones to tip off gangsters about upcoming raids, once allowing a top target of federal law enforcement to elude arrest for a month, authorities said Tuesday.

John Saro Balian is also suspected of collaborating with other criminals to steal cars, presumably to sell abroad, and taking bribes to hunt people down.

When confronted by federal agents in four interviews over the last year, authorities say Balian, 45, lied about his ties to the Mexican Mafia and Armenian organized crime in Southern California.
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