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Message 1936282 - Posted: 19 May 2018, 15:10:22 UTC
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David vs Goliath. David is considered a hero.

Palestinians vs David. Palestinians is considered terrorists.


Teargas is considered a weapon. One infant died by Israeli teargas.

There has been a lot of illegal migration crossing Europe borders lately.
Should we "protect" our borders as Israel does as well?
Heck. Reminds me of the Warsaw ghetto during WWII and former East Germany Berlin!
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Message 1936817 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 16:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 1936282.  
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... Palestinians is considered terrorists.


Teargas is considered a weapon. One infant died by Israeli teargas...


Those people shown there are very much more lethal than "just children throwing stones".

Those sling-shots are lethal weapons. Roman armies (and others) used them to kill and to help them conquer the then known world.

Time is now long overdue to move onward, and to let whatever assumed histories stay as history.


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Message 1936835 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 18:20:15 UTC - in response to Message 1936817.  
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True.
David was also a child using a sling-shot...
But now Israel has an army that is by far more powerful than the Roman army 2000 years ago.
And support by the US Army of course!
That history will be forgotten in Palestina/Israel is not going to happen for centuries.
Israel wants Jerusalem to become a capital of their own again.
Palestine wants Jerusalem to become a capital of their own again.
What's next?
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Message 1936839 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 19:12:22 UTC - in response to Message 1936835.  

True.
David was also a child using a sling-shot...
But now Israel has an army that is by far more powerful than the Roman army 2000 years ago.
And support by the US Army of course!
That history will be forgotten in Palestina/Israel is not going to happen for centuries.
Israel wants Jerusalem to become a capital of their own again.
Palestine wants Jerusalem to become a capital of their own again.
What's next?

In relative terms how can you say that the Israeli Army is more powerful than the Roman Army. The Romans killed or removed most of the Jewish nation from their homeland and scattered them in all directions. The Israeli Army hasn't managed to remove all Arabs that yet. It's the return of the Jews that the Muslims object too and and the loss of "their lands", but were not these lands stolen from the Jews in the first place before Islam was founded.
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Message 1936849 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 20:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 1936839.  
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What?
The Romans killed or removed most of the Jewish nation from their homeland and scattered them in all directions
Not true. Have you heard of Pax Romana?
Have you read the Bible? The New Testimony that is.
The Israeli Army hasn't managed to remove all Arabs that yet
You mean removing Arabs from their home country for centuries?
How does that sound? Sounds like genocide to me!
but were not these lands stolen from the Jews in the first place before Islam was founded.
Stolen land?
Read about the history of Europe and you will find the same SSDN.
Those history claims of lands and territories is the very reason to why the Middle East is in chaos!
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Message 1936861 - Posted: 23 May 2018, 22:32:15 UTC - in response to Message 1936849.  

Stolen land?
Read about the history of Europe and you will find the same SSDN.
Those history claims of lands and territories is the very reason to why the Middle East is in chaos!

Line in the sand gang.
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Message 1936873 - Posted: 24 May 2018, 0:22:05 UTC - in response to Message 1936861.  

Stolen land?
Read about the history of Europe and you will find the same SSDN.
Those history claims of lands and territories is the very reason to why the Middle East is in chaos!

Line in the sand gang.
Exactly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_in_the_sand_(phrase)
Building settlements in occupied territories are illegal according to international laws.
Moving citizens to ghettos are illegal according to international laws.
Jews/Israelis have to accept this.
I would propably be accused being an anti-semitic saying this.
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Message 1936878 - Posted: 24 May 2018, 1:30:26 UTC - in response to Message 1936873.  

Stolen land?
Read about the history of Europe and you will find the same SSDN.
Those history claims of lands and territories is the very reason to why the Middle East is in chaos!

Line in the sand gang.
Exactly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_in_the_sand_(phrase)
Building settlements in occupied territories are illegal according to international laws.
Moving citizens to ghettos are illegal according to international laws.
Jews/Israelis have to accept this.
I would propably be accused being an anti-semitic saying this.

No, just being honest.
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Message 1936956 - Posted: 24 May 2018, 16:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 1935321.  

As I see it USA is 3rd China in front by miles then Russia, USA (Drump) "I mean Trump" don't like this and is trying to force war on countries..

With all Trumps bad business dealings and attitude as President, there is no wonder the allies to USA are taking a second look..USA seems hell bent on starting a war with someone..

My bet is Drump will derail the meeting with North Korea for a pre-emptive strike.. Lets hope the Allies stay well clear of Drumps mess..

Trump is a (terrorist)


DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner! The summit is gone!

Trump Calls Off Historic Meeting With North Korea's Kim
MYGA! MAKE YAWN GREAT AGAIN
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Message 1937818 - Posted: 31 May 2018, 14:19:54 UTC
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Here is a rather apt quote from fortune for a login just now:


The face of war has never changed.  Surely it is more logical to heal than to kill.

                -- Surak of Vulcan, "The Savage Curtain", stardate 5906.5



Rather than the same old politics of wars, can we have a healing New Politics for the benefit of all?...

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Message 1937820 - Posted: 31 May 2018, 14:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 1937818.  

Rather than the same old politics of wars, can we have a healing New Politics for the benefit of all?
Good luck with that.
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Message 1937941 - Posted: 1 Jun 2018, 21:00:43 UTC
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Syria, a country divided into three "sectors".
1. U.S. sector (north/east)
2. Russian sector (largest - west, north, center)
3. Turkish sector (northwest).
‘The End of the World Will Start Here in Manbij’
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/31/magazine/syria-conflict-manbij.html
“What can we do?” said a shop owner who runs a small business near one of the main streets. “If we say we like the Kurds, the Turks will be angry. If we say we like the Turks, the Kurds and the Syrians are angry. The only thing we can say is this: We hope for three things — stability, stability and stability.”
But join the preschool in Damascus that does not close even during bombings.
Video https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/folj-med-till-forskolan-i-damaskus-som-inte-stanger-ens-under-bombningar
Ramadan mubarak 😛
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Message 1939318 - Posted: 13 Jun 2018, 11:25:55 UTC

If it was left to the girls...

The Middle East would be a lot quieter & friendlier :-)

... hubba hubba hubba :-)
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Message 1948086 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 0:37:44 UTC

This year's flotilla of aid ships to Gaza is again being meddled with :[ https://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2018/08/04/israel-seizes-swedish-aid-ship-en-route-to-gaza

The Israeli navy seized a Swedish-flagged sailboat attempting deliver medical supplies to the Gaza Strip on Saturday, the military said.

The 12 passengers are mostly from Sweden but also from Germany, Britain, Spain, France and Canada. They are in custody and will be put on flights home, a spokeswoman for the Israeli Immigration Authority said.

The SY Freedom for Gaza was carrying mainly medical supplies and two of its passengers were journalists, said an organizer from a group named Ship to Gaza which organized the trip.


Meanwhile...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-politics-law-protest/israeli-druze-rally-against-new-nation-state-law-idUSKBN1KP0PU

Tens of thousands of people gathered in Tel Aviv on Saturday to protest against Israel’s new law declaring it the nation-state of the Jewish people, which has provoked outrage among the country’s most integrated minority, the Druze.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has defended the law, which says only Jews have the right of self-determination in the country and downgrades Arabic from an official language, from fierce criticism at home and abroad.
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Message 1948095 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 1:26:50 UTC

And some wonder why I call Netanyahu a terrorist leader.
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Message 1948096 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 1:40:21 UTC - in response to Message 1948095.  

And some wonder why I call Netanyahu a terrorist leader.
And I wonder how anyone thinks he isn't.
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Message 1948104 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 4:15:57 UTC - in response to Message 1948096.  

And some wonder why I call Netanyahu a terrorist leader.
And I wonder how anyone thinks he isn't.
I wonder how anyone doesn't think any person who claims monotheistic religious authority isn't a terrorist.
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Message 1948128 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 10:57:17 UTC - in response to Message 1948086.  
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This year's flotilla of aid ships to Gaza is again being meddled with :[ https://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2018/08/04/israel-seizes-swedish-aid-ship-en-route-to-gaza
The Israeli navy seized a Swedish-flagged sailboat attempting deliver medical supplies to the Gaza Strip on Saturday, the military said.
The 12 passengers are mostly from Sweden but also from Germany, Britain, Spain, France and Canada. They are in custody and will be put on flights home, a spokeswoman for the Israeli Immigration Authority said.
The SY Freedom for Gaza was carrying mainly medical supplies and two of its passengers were journalists, said an organizer from a group named Ship to Gaza which organized the trip.
The Swedish boat was in international waters on it's way into Palestinian water with no intention to enter Israelian territory when Israel seized it accusing them of enter Israel illegally!
https://shiptogaza.se/en/Pressrelease/confirmed-swedish-syfreedom-gaza-id-seized-israeli-navy
Now even "Jews for Israeli–Palestinian Peace" object to this incident.
https://stg2018.wordpress.com/2018/08/06/foreningen-judar-for-israelisk-palestinsk-fred-jipf-staller-sig-helhjartad-bakom-svenska-ship-to-gazas-krav-jipfs-styrelse/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_Peace
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Message 1949100 - Posted: 11 Aug 2018, 23:49:47 UTC - in response to Message 1948128.  
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The Swedish boat was in international waters on it's way into Palestinian water with no intention to enter Israelian territory when Israel seized it accusing them of enter Israel illegally!
https://shiptogaza.se/en/Pressrelease/confirmed-swedish-syfreedom-gaza-id-seized-israeli-navy
https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Swedish-Christian-Zionists-to-sail-to-Israel-on-solidarity-mission-564588
Following Swedish pro-Palestinian activists’ failed attempt to reach Gaza by sea, a Christian supporter of Israel from Sweden announced he would take dozens of pro-Zionists to Israel on his yacht.
Stefan Abrahamsson announced Thursday on Facebook that his yacht, Elida, will set sail from Sweden on Aug. 25 to Israel to show solidarity with the Jewish state and Middle East Christians.
Geeze...
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