Bob, perhaps the statements of of Allies is the proof.

One more thing, most claims about politics made in here should be prefaced by the statement "In my opinion".

They can't, most of the time they are just repeating the opinion of others that they have read or been informed of through social media and fake news sites.

Bob, I can see why they would. Unfortunately the man is not qualified. His "learning" has totally destroyed the standing of the United States with other nations. That will take decades to repair. Russia will step in to fill the void. Their game is long term, not short term.

Such claims require proof. Maybe we should wait to see how this presidency pans out before making such claims. I didn't vote for the man but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt which is more than most liberals are doing.

Bob how do you feel about this? Does it deserve a chance?

House votes to ease enforcement of Americans with Disabilities Act against companies

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-votes-to-ease-enforcement-of-americans-with-disabilities-act-against-companies/article/2649192

That's the House and I would have to look at the specifics of the bill. I do believe that there are instances where either the laws regarding affirmative action or the interpretation of said laws have gone overboard.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Sweden is taking on Russian meddling ahead of fall elections. The White House might take note.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/sweden-looks-at-russias-electoral-interference-in-the-us-and-takes-steps-not-to-be-another-victim/2018/02/21/9e58ee48-0768-11e8-aa61-f3391373867e_story.html?utm_term=.c3073387c21e

[url]Hundreds of local election workers have been trained to spot and resist foreign influence. The country’s biggest media outlets have teamed up to combat false news. Political parties scour their email systems to close hacker-friendly holes.
The goal: to Russia-proof Sweden’s political system so that what happened in the United States in 2016 can never happen in this Nordic country of 10 million people.
Although the general election isn’t until Sept. 9, officials say their preemptive actions may already have dissuaded the Kremlin from interfering. In Washington, meanwhile, the FBI says it has received no White House orders to secure the 2018 midterms against Russian influence.[/url]

That will not happen in this country, it's too much common sense.

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To me it seems that the real problem is that both Republicans and Democrats are quibbling instead of moving forward.
Who did what and who did worse and so on, and on and on doesn't solve the real problems.
The US has become more and more divided.
In that Putin has succeeded very well to sow discord in the U.S. political system.
If it changed even one American vote in the 2016 presidential election is not important to Putin.
Does Divide and Conquer sounds familiar?
Without an united front to foreigners it's strange that you call your nation United States of America.

Eh?
I was talking about the US handling the problem with the Russian meddling and that the US gets more and more divided.
That has very little to do with cultures, religion or some kind of genetics.
And BOTH the Democrats and the Republicans are to be blamed for this situation.
And what are they doing? Quibble, quibble and quibble...
But Putin like it.

The enablers and 'useful fools' of Putin's Divide and Conquer inside the USA, are the Democrat Party and the Anti Trump Media.

This isn't helping, Clyde... in fact it's being just the opposite: divisive. Whatever noise is coming from the Democrat camp is because "their team" currently isn't in the White House. If it was, the roles would be reversed, as it was for eight years prior. Do I really need to dig up all the "Birthergate" nonsense that persisted from the Republican camp (including from the current President!) for that time period trying to, as you put it yourself "attempt to invalidate a Constitutional and lawful election of a President"? Are memories that short?

This is a bipartisan issue.... period.

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Some people are just naturally decisive and hate filled as proved by their posts.

No cheers for them.

Some people are just naturally decisive and hate filled as proved by their posts.

No cheers for them.

Some aren't people they are Russian Bots doing Putin's bidding.

Some people are just naturally decisive and hate filled as proved by their posts.

No cheers for them.

Some aren't people they are Russian Bots doing Putin's bidding.

That is also very possible.

Cheers.

As I stated. Putin is laughing at the Democrat Party, the Never Trumpers and the Anti Trump Media for his victory.

But you are wrong.
Putin is laughing at BOTH the Democrat Party and the Republican Party.
In fact to all US political parties that are so gullible.
One of the reasons that Putin choosed Trump instead of Hillary as a favorite is because as Putin stated.
"You know how it is to discuss with a woman".

.... the relevant Hillary Clinton campaign officials and allies, Obama administration principals and holdovers in the law enforcement, national security and foreign policy apparatuses, Fusion GPS players and the journalists...

How many of these people have been indicted themselves? Charged without indictment? Tried? Convicted?

If you expect others to apply "innocent until proven guilty" to Donald Trump and his associates with regards to interference in the election, it may be a good idea to reciprocate and also apply it to the Democrats. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Hrm... where have I heard that one?

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A confirmation that only one side is under investigation.

I don't know what this means really. Do you mean that only the Republicans are being investigated and this is biased? That only the Democrats are being investigated so this confirms your premature conclusions and presumptions of guilt?

Well, it certainly isn't the latter as so far the only Americans charged that I know of are:

Michael Flynn, Trump's former national security advisor
Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager (former?)
Rick Gates, Trump's deputy campaign manager (former?)
George Papadopoulos, Trump's campaign foreign policy advisor

And they are also all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

And Trump? Because that is the foundation of this year long...

BTW: As you know. I have referred to Trump as Dangerous Donald, Idiot Trump and Slobbering Mouth. I hate him as President. Edit: Whenever I see him on TV, I grimace.

But... As with the Republicans Impeachment of Bill Clinton, which you mentioned. I hold the same opinion of those which have subjected our country to their year long hysteria.

And Trump... I even answered that before...

I go where the evidence leads, Clyde... Obama was the lawfully elected president as no good evidence was found leading to a lawful overturning of this, and Trump is the lawfully elected president as no good evidence has been found leading to a lawful overturning of this. This may change but until it does "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" applies to everyone. I do strongly disagree with any political side even hinting or implying violence of any kind as a solution to their grievances, as this can set off unstable radicals and cause them to act, and it poisons civilized discussion.

As long as there is none of that, I expect that each "side" will try to unseat the other in such a polarized political climate. I merely disagree that one side has some sort of a moral high ground that some of their supporters have engaged in it any less than the other!

You may be more radical than I am on Trump then... lol... I don't think he's doing that bad of a job. Note that this is completely separate from anything he says... I think he'd have a better chance of getting re-elected if he could keep his mouth shut and stay off of Twitter. This has nothing to do with whether I agree with his policies and/or politics at all.

There's too much evidence that there was Russian meddling, but that doesn't imply American involvement. This will have to be proven, or not, legally. It's a possibility that the Russians did it on their own or without the direct involvement of higher-ups in the Trump campaign. Putin is very wily and a master manipulator and politically savvy (and I say this almost with admiration as he's so good at it, and I don't admire much else about him to be sure.) What more divisive and destabilizing of a move could he make than meddling in the US election without "approval", which would put both parties at each other's throats and mostly destroy confidence in the US federal elections? This is what he wants: infighting and instability, divide and conquer. So I would avoid the partisan blame game as it's exactly what he wants...

(Unfortunately it's off to bed for me so I won't be able to reply for a while.)

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A confirmation that only one side is under investigation.

Why?

Probable cause and/or lack thereof?

Well, one thing is for sure, the Russians got good return for the dollars they spent trying to influence the US elections. This whole mess has diverted attention in Washington D.C. from matters that are much more important and fanned the flames of party politics to new heights. And for what? So what if Russian money helped pay for political advertising, so did money from many questionable sources. My vote wasn't influenced by paid political advertising but it was influenced by the campaign coverage of the media on TV and newspapers. So Rome is burning while Nero fiddles.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I want to clarify what I meant when I used the name Nero. In this case I was referring to all 537 elected officials in Washington D.C.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I want to clarify what I meant when I used the name Nero. In this case I was referring to all 537 elected officials in Washington D.C.

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