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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Unfortunately it's looking more & more like a nuke & re-pave job. Grant Darwin NT |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
Unfortunately it's looking more & more like a nuke & re-pave job. Yes, and I'd rather not do that. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
Well, I've done the best I know how to do, uninstalling BOINC via the Windows way of doing it, and reinstalling it, and I still get the same result. I'd be happy to try a DOS method of doing this if anybody wants to help me through it. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
you moved the seti@home folder to trash and deleted it then restarted the computer... |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
you moved the seti@home folder to trash and deleted it then restarted the computer... Well, I didn't have a folder of that name. I just uninstalled BOINC. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
The mac or windows machine? edit.. So no setiathome.berkeley.edu folder in the projects folder? |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
The mac or windows machine? The Windows 1 computer is the problem. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
you moved the seti@home folder to trash and deleted it then restarted the computer... After uninstalling check your drive to make sure that both BOINC folders, C:\ProgramData\BOINC & C:\BOINC, are deleted before restarting and reinstalling Gordon just to make sure that no leftovers are there to bug you. ;-) Cheers. |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
Thanks, Wiggo. As far as I can tell, there are no other old versions of BOINC lurking on this computer. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I'd be happy to try this via Command line DOS, if anyone wants to walk me through it. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I'd be happy to try this via Command line DOS, if anyone wants to walk me through it. Easiest just to use the Windows installer, and Windows Explorer. Been ages since I've had to muck around with the Command prompt. Grant Darwin NT |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I'd be happy to try this via Command line DOS, if anyone wants to walk me through it. I understand what you're saying; I just don't think there's anything else I can do in Windows to solve this problem. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
What he means in others words is you need to find the Boinc Data directory in your host and delete it to be sure nothing was left behind when you uninstall the Boinc itself. Why? When you uninstall the Boinc it only deletes the Boinc Programs not touch the data. You could use you windows explorer to do the search & delete job. That is what i mean when I said a complete new instalation in the previous post |
Gordon Lowe Send message Joined: 5 Nov 00 Posts: 12094 Credit: 6,317,865 RAC: 0 |
I've done all of the things suggested, but I'm thinking perhaps doing this in the DOS command way might work better. I was never an expert in the old way, but the new way isn't helping me, either. The mind is a weird and mysterious place |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Waiting for my wingman right now, for a couple of tasks. I noticed that Grant mentioned it earlier on for that of the columns in Advanced View, by means of Select Columns, next ticking the Project field, which is also having the "Standard" option in the middle, at the bottom, making a slight difference from just OK versus abort, for that of a menu box selection. Here I do not like it that well for its way of display, when it comes to the order of the choices, because only OK and abort is much easier to deal with. For BOINC Manager 7.8.3, also the "Applications with exclusive rights" option, also on the Options menu, but my guess is that most are not looking here either, except for the "..." following the first menu selection, for that of optional choices below. Also the question box for that of really wishing to abort is unneccessary in my opinion, and any changes being performed should only be visible by clicking OK, and here so for at least two such menu selections. |
Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
After uninstalling and deleting everything the normal way that you have on the computer, have you went into Windows Explorer and did a search for anything BOINC or SETI starting at the root of the C: drive? Might just be worth a try to see whatever leftovers might be still hanging around, causing confusion. Can't hurt, and only takes a couple secs to do. |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Al, should I start counting my disks first, or should I rather make it a couple of stubborn hands, which slowly is falling apart from me? Rebooted to Windows 64 bit again, and the Genefer16 CUDA tasks for that of PrimeGrid did not finish here, and will probably become aborted. Next also a long list available here as well, and needs picking up from where I left, and for this also a bit of slow start. The Windows updates are perhaps not always in total sync with each other, but it could also depend on contents already found on each disk or partition. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7175962 As an example here, notice "Computer" 7175962 for this, and here for my bluestar account, and you may need to select "All computers" from the list available under this account. Here "Microsoft Windows XP Media Center x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)" (on two lines there). Meaning that it under "All computers", it also becomes the following, Microsoft Windows XP Media Center x86 Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00) Here in fact it is wrong, because either it was so, or it became converted in one way or another to the current Windows Ultimate, 32 bits, which should be correct here. I lost out on most I have, and had to recover this partition, and also the fourth, which became for that of 64 bits, while the two in between became "recovered" as well, behind the scenes, but apparently still unbootable. Here one possible solution is copying the whole Windows directory from one place or another, depending on that above, meaning 32 bits versus 64 bits, but here needs a check. I am also running the .vlar tasks by means of CUDA as well, and here slowing down a little, to that of one at a time. Starting in the small for that of also duplicates, it becomes easy to get it wrong, particularly with my hands, and right now I do not know whether it is worth it. Here apparently Microsoft is my enemy of sorts, but except for one SATA drive that developed a physical error, and also contained quite much, the rest should be still there, and next also a bit too much to deal with as well. One thing is having a "smooth" file or directory structure, something which I have for an old 60 GB Maxtor IDE disk, which is an excellent one. Make it rather 2 or even 3 TB in size, and already here quite a bit of difference, except for that it could sometimes take a little while to load. The memory here is 2 * 8 GB of RAM, and here no room for any more. One beer left in the fridge, and only 3:10 PM in the afternoon, so because of my problems, I probably will be in bed around 7 PM, and next up around 5 PM in the morning. So, never say never, except for perhaps not any fun either, at least for everything. |
Juha Send message Joined: 7 Mar 04 Posts: 388 Credit: 1,857,738 RAC: 0 |
@Gordon Open Regedit Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Space Sciences Laboratory, U.C. Berkeley\BOINC Manager\Projects List all the values in the key and its subkeys (Account etc.) here Once you have copied the values here exit Manager, remove the Projects key and restart Manager. |
Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
Gordon Most programs do a very poor job of uninstalling themselves. I mean really poor. Most will leave data files, registry imprints and a ton of other stuff that can make an uninstall/reinstall a complete waste of time. A couple solutions, 1 is to manually search for all traces of the program and remove/delete them. Doing a search with explorer works although it can very tedious and time consuming. There are a couple of decent uninstall programs that will do most of this for you, I had to find one of them to fix a problem similar to this on my brothers, I may have used IOBit Uninstaller but a simple google search for them and then another to check how good the uninstaller is what I recommend. You may have installed this program differently then your other two so it may not reside where the default would have put it. Without a complete uninstall your just beating your head against a wall. A DOS work around would probably be 10Xs the work but that is just a guess on my part. Of course your very last option is a complete wipe and reinstall of the OS and all contents. That may be a touch extreme but it usually works. Of course YMMV is always the mantra when giving this kind of advice. Good luck and may the force be with you. Bob Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7031 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Again that the previous should belong in my own thread, but rather from my experience, the fact that software is software regardless, and that there are other factors which makes each separate part link with yet another in a proper way. One thing is that of the Registry, which Cactus Bob is mentioning, while the other could be that of drivers which also could be needed. Here not perhaps about the latter for that of installation, or reinstallation of BOINC Manager itself, so here better the Registry. Cleaning a Registry is one thing, while the other is getting the correct attributes set for each element necessary. A PC, or computer of today is a modular piece of electronics, where that of hardware should interact with software, with possible firmware in between, which sometimes could go for that of the BIOS. Updating software, and next also drivers as well, if perhaps not vice versa, but if rather a software application, you could end up overwriting an existing installation with perhaps something new or different, or maybe even the same as already being found or present. This also could go for that of "patching" as well, at least when it comes to that of software. |
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