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Message 1916434 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 4:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 1916426.  

New data should last 'til tomorrow sometime. Hopefully more is on the way during the night. Kinda wondering if they used a cloud drive method again to get what just showed up tonight.

I have a hunch that is the case. If the comms issue was resolved, I think it likely that the front page would have announced so.

I have been checking the Internet down detectors since this problem has occurred. A LOT of big ISP's and websites have reported large numbers of Internet connection complaints.

I wonder if there has been some sort of mass attack on the Internet backbones. If that is really what has happened, it could possibly have bled over to the Internet2 connection between Green Bank and Berkeley.
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Message 1916480 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 14:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 1915795.  

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do a traceroute to your connection and code the route so your visible hops between the two machines appear closer together free's up lotsa bandwidth and decreases connection latency

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Message 1916487 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 16:18:47 UTC

I am leaving my server in the limit to complete the demands, I have also noticed a certain bottleneck in sending the packages. My server is in Brazil.
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Message 1916491 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 16:32:24 UTC - in response to Message 1915795.  

Is that why I keep getting BOINC is not not running whenever my screensaver comes up?
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Message 1916492 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 16:33:44 UTC - in response to Message 1915795.  

I also notice for about 2 weeks that more computer power is taken than where I've set. Is this problem known? sorry for my bad English
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Message 1916494 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 17:01:00 UTC

It turns out that using Google Cloud as an intermediary is more expensive than we thought. It's costing us about $100/TB. We can only do a TB every couple of days because Breakthrough needs 10 TB/day for their own stuff. Anyone have a 10GB link to the commodity internet that they'd let us build a tunnel through?

Lighting a fire under the people who run the networks between here and GBT is proving difficult. There seem to be problem getting to other internet2 nodes in WV, so the problem may be on that side.
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Message 1916498 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 17:24:49 UTC - in response to Message 1916494.  

Thank you for the update, Eric.
And best of luck getting cooperation from the IT people further down the pipe.
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Message 1916499 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 17:29:07 UTC

Thanks for the update Eric. Best of luck wished your way.
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Message 1916509 - Posted: 2 Feb 2018, 18:12:29 UTC - in response to Message 1916494.  

Anyone have a 10GB link to the commodity internet that they'd let us build a tunnel through?
My webservice says unlimited storage and bandwidth ... I wonder ...

I will drop a mail to you.
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Message 1916554 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 0:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 1916055.  

So anyone want to comment on my idea of just FedEx'ing some drives to Berkeley?


Done and it only took -5 years...... I guess those drives got repurposed.

Also if there is a mysterious slowdown on a GBT <-> Berkeley data link, I'm wondering if it's being caused by the dreaded post-net-neutrality that was being worried about, depending on who's the link provider. Worth checking if everything else fails I guess.


. . Good point ..

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Message 1916558 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 0:42:28 UTC - in response to Message 1916494.  

It turns out that using Google Cloud as an intermediary is more expensive than we thought. It's costing us about $100/TB. We can only do a TB every couple of days because Breakthrough needs 10 TB/day for their own stuff. Anyone have a 10GB link to the commodity internet that they'd let us build a tunnel through?

Lighting a fire under the people who run the networks between here and GBT is proving difficult. There seem to be problem getting to other internet2 nodes in WV, so the problem may be on that side.


. . Yes, thank you for the updates you have given, they are much appreciated ...

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Message 1916580 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 1:34:54 UTC - in response to Message 1916434.  


I have been checking the Internet down detectors since this problem has occurred. A LOT of big ISP's and websites have reported large numbers of Internet connection complaints.

I wonder if there has been some sort of mass attack on the Internet backbones. If that is really what has happened, it could possibly have bled over to the Internet2 connection between Green Bank and Berkeley.

Finally found the resource I thought existed detailing the health of the Internet.

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Message 1916600 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:34:54 UTC - in response to Message 1916509.  
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It sounds like my hosting site would handle the traffic ok, but I got referred to their 'Terms of Service'.

Some related snippets:
- Customers are not allowed to use their hosting accounts as a remote storage server only or solely for the purpose of sharing (un)archived images, programs or sound files.
- At least 80% of all files and/or total megabytes used (including MP3, WAV, RA, GIF, JPG, ZIP, RAR, but not limited to these file types) in each hosting account must be a part of actual, active website(s) content, i.e. all content files must have corresponding HTML or PHP files that link to them.
- The term “UNLIMITED” is used to describe the amount of resources in the web hosting plans provided by 50Webs Web Hosting, which is not set to a predefined limit value (for example - unlimited bandwidth, unlimited disk space, unlimited emails or other unlimited resources).
- Upon request, each Customer must be able to prove that a given file is a constituent part of an actual page and not only stored on the server within 24 hours of the request. If the client fails to react within 24 hours after the request and does not remove the file/files in question, or if the apportioned traffic quota continues to be used for such purposes - the Provider reserves the right to suspend the account and/or to remove the aforesaid content from the server.
- In all cases, when a service is listed as “Unlimited“, it is intended for normal web hosting usage only - all activities, which may result in excessive resource usage inconsistent with regular usage patterns, are prohibited.

That really squashes the plan :(

It was worth a try anyways.

Now I know they have a 100Mbps/connection limit though.
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Message 1916601 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 1916580.  

Hi Keith,

Thank you for posting that link. Here is my go-to site for the status of the Internet: https://www.akamai.com/us/en/solutions/intelligent-platform/visualizing-akamai/real-time-web-monitor.jsp

It looks like they agree pretty well, and it looks like the East Coast of the USA is definitely under some stress right now.

Hope this all gets sorted out soon and I hope it isn't impacting anything really serious like police/fire/ambulance services.

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Message 1916607 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 2:58:28 UTC - in response to Message 1916601.  

Hi Kellen, interesting that Virginia at 2.2% is pretty high up the list in attacks. Another good resource you have provided. Thanks.
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According to that site, most of Europe, India, Japan, South Korea and Australia are under attack? Sweden, Brazil the Western, Central and Northeast USA, China and Russia are also to a lesser degree?

Who could mount such a massive attack?

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Message 1916659 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 11:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 1916655.  
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According to that site, most of Europe, India, Japan, South Korea and Australia are under attack? Sweden, Brazil the Western, Central and Northeast USA, China and Russia are also to a lesser degree?

Who could mount such a massive attack?

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North Korea?
Iran?
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Message 1916675 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 14:08:52 UTC

I checked to see how much space I have on my Google drive, it's just 100 Gigs. But for $10 a month, I could bump it up to 1 TB. I would gladly to that to help out, but I'm not sure if it would be enough. Are the files being moved same as the channels - 59 gigs or so? A 1 TB cloud drive could work if the files are micro managed while moving.
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Message 1916683 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 15:12:07 UTC

Just an idea... need to polish a lot to be implemented.

Maybe some of us who use common internet connections could help instead of one, imagine this, each "tape" holds about 50 GB of data, instead of one DL and retransmit all the data back (i imagine 10 - 20 tapes per day) this set could be divided in 10 -20 volunteers and each one do 1 tape at a day. Or even instead of 50 GB tapes use a "small" tape (with less GB on each)
Obviously this is not a permanent solution, and this 10-20 volunteers must be choiced very carefully in the seti community but that could help to pass this complicated days.
I will be happy to help but my internet connection is only 20 MB and not so stable, but if i could help i'm in.
I believe a lot of users will be happy to help.
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Message 1916699 - Posted: 3 Feb 2018, 17:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1916659.  

According to that site, most of Europe, India, Japan, South Korea and Australia are under attack? Sweden, Brazil the Western, Central and Northeast USA, China and Russia are also to a lesser degree?

Who could mount such a massive attack?

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North Korea?
Iran?

If you look at the resource from my link, you can scroll back through the calendar year and see where attack vectors originated. Back last year, one of the attack host countries was Zambia. The attacking botnets can be controlled from anywhere. All the various criminal cyber organizations are responsible along with the state sponsored actors like North Korea and Iran and Russia.
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