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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
In the Russian Empire and the USSR, the nationality was indicated in the passports.Sigh... Lets try again. The Kursk oblast has always been a part of Russia. Ð’ 1797 году КурÑкое намеÑтничеÑтво преобразовано в КурÑкую губернию, ÐºÐ¾Ñ‚Ð¾Ñ€Ð°Ñ ÑущеÑтвовала до 1928 года. Not Ukraine. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Different countries, different laws.What do you mean? A Swedish citizen has all the rights of a Swede. Being born here doesn't make you a Swedish citizen. Not like in the US. The legal term for that is "jus soli". Here we have " jus sanguinis" that means you inheret your mother's citizenship. Just like in the UK. As for a Syrian living in Sweden can ask for protection from Syria if he's harassed in Sweden depends of course on the persons citizenship. But I'm quite sure that there never been situations like that. A refugee or perhaps an immegrant asking for help from their former homecountry... |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Vadim. Now it seems you have been drinking to much Kvass talking like a Gopnik. So what is a Gopnik? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qif-Qz7NY48 |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Ðи пуха ни пера:)Vadim. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36832 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Или шею. ;-) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Или шею. ;-)LOL:) Или, как мы говорим в Швеции. Ботинок в заднице. Ñ‚Ð°ÐºÐ°Ñ Ð¶Ðµ идиома:) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
К чёрту!LOL:) Please explain to us what European values are towards muslims. Swedish, British, French, Italian, Greece, Russian etc? There are 49 countries in Europe! |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24912 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Russians with Muslims have lived together for 500 years and I understand what I'm talking about. We found a common language of coexistence. We realized that laws in this area do not work.Really? So what happened with Dagestan? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31013 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
When the war broke out in the Donbas, why was the issue of transferring Passenger Airlines not resolved? Do you know what filing a flight plan means? Why wasn't the filed approved flight plan transmitted to the Russian BUK crew? (Could it have been because some mid level man took it upon himself to send the crew without his superiors being aware and setting up the necessary communications and safety systems?) Why would a Russian BUK crew fire on an aircraft transmitting its position with a civil transponder? (Note the civil transponder sends the GPS/GLONAS position, direction, speed, and altitude in addition to a serial number. Does Russia seriously think a military aircraft is going to be doing this?) Why was a Russian BUK crew sent to defend against an enemy that has no jet aircraft? Did Russia need to test its BUK system on a real aircraft? (Like they did in Kamchatka?) Are Russian systems made so cheap they have no ability to tell the difference between innocent civilian targets and legitimate military targets? If not, isn't that a war crime? How lucky is Russia that a NATO Head of State wasn't on the airplane? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31013 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I read the reports on the crash, there are only guesses, there is no evidence. I read the tweet the BUK crew put out before they realized they shot a civilian airliner and then quickly deleted. It is there in the Internet Archive, but you have to search. (I'm not your personal search engine) In Kamchatka, you showed that you do not need to fly into someone else's territory. The plane did not have a GPS, and he got lost? Or the pilots are poorly prepared and did not correctly determine the course? Actually GPS, likely INS at that time, was the problem. They flew the great circle route between their starting point and their destination, most fuel efficient route. That put them in range of crazy Russian air defense boss who shoots first. (Likely forgot to enter a way point to keep them out of range of crazy Russian air defense boss.) You do remember Russia sent fighters to get a visual but they ran out of fuel before they got there. You do also remember the fighters were ordered to shoot down even though they never got a visual identification. Is the Russian military so badly prepared their only choice is to kill civilians when they have a question? Or is Russia so paranoid it needs a psychiatrist? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36832 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It seems that Vadin only believes what Putin lets the Russian people know about, which isn't much, and those who believe that are just like the Trump supporters who also live in La La Land. ;-) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36832 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
The only false accusations that I see here are coming from you Vadim so that must make you a criminal just like your president. ;-) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24912 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
A false accusation is a crime.Like the statement that Russians & Muslims got along for 500 years. So what happened with Dagestan? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24912 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Откуда ÑÑ‹Ñ€-бор загорелÑÑ?Или шею. ;-)LOL:) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Can you say which modification of the BUK, serial number and board number? The launcher is marked Buk 332. The number on the missile casing is 9д1318869032. On the missile venturi 9д13105000N830113 BUK serial numbers explained http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/buk-serial-numbers-explained/ The answers to your other questions are here https://www.bellingcat.com/?s=mh17 In Russian https://ru.bellingcat.com/?s=mh17 |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24912 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
BTW Vadim, What 500 year period were you referring to? |
musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2442 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0 |
Also the emerging threat coming from Iran right now, and perhaps Mr. Putin should distance away from that regime right now. Except for also a recall of a U.S. warship once shooting down an Iranian civilian plane, and perhaps a wrong decision being made here. It only became that of a small village in the U.K. for that of a falling plane back in return, but perhaps not any better either. It should not be any secret that conflicts between nations could still be about the respective parts, and not any intermediatory in between, like perhaps the United Nations, at times. Sometimes a Court of Justice, and also an International such one, for that of the Hague, except for not very familiar here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice But also that these rules of Law could pertain to humankind, as a set of nations, like almost a conglomerate. If perhaps kind of a scientist as well, you also could know that nature could be having other, or separate Laws, based on different principles. For this, sometimes a Methodology as well, except for still not any "Land of Confusion", for only that of confusion itself, when it rather could be Chaos. The set could also be the ordered set, for which there also could be that of symmetries, and here the Mandelbrot set, for such a thing, which could be an indicator of nature, for both its presence, and also inner-working, if not any infinity either. If you only could weigh up something, for both value and meaning, it could still be that of decisions, for also decision making, except for still not any confusion, for that of a lack of Method. Adhering to a couple of principles, and next also science for such, in that at least we sometimes could make it at least a starting point. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
The Dutch Safety Board says the weapon used was a 9N317M-model warhead carried on the 9M38M1 missile, as installed on the Buk SAM system. Does Ukraine have 9M38M1 missiles? Yes and Russia still employs 9M38M1 missiles on its Buk missile systems. https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/06/04/4010/ BTW Vadim. Почему Ñ Ð´ÑƒÐ¼Ð°ÑŽ о буковых леÑах? Why do I come to think of beech forests? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31013 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Ah Russians, "We will bury you!" And they wonder why no one believes they want peace. |
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