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Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Wasn't that what your comrades said in October 1917? 7 decades later - Phhtttttttt, into the history books they went :-) |
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Like others here you should stop listening to propaganda that puts out fake news and get the real facts. ;-) |
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yawn |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Sigh...But Russia is a part Europe. Right? Are you still living in medieval Russia? Already Tsar Peter the Great acknowledged that Russia was very much European for about 300 hundred years ago! Why do you think Saint Petersburg exists? And occuping Kaliningrad in the WWII? Yes. Russia is bigger and stronger than many European countries like Estonia and Finland. And Sweden! Should we submit because of that? BLIN! We don't! Ты перегнула палку. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24927 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
You said "your time is gone sad in silence"Wasn't that what your comrades said in October 1917? 7 decades later - Phhtttttttt, into the history books they went :-) By my referring to Russia's past, I showed that things change over time. A point you confirmed by stating that this is the 21st century & that communism is gone (From Russia at least). 21st century indeed.. You asked for debate & when you get answers you do not like, you insult. Are you sure you're not Clyde using another account, because you are beginning to adapt his style. |
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Mighty white xenophobic Russians are brainwashed by propaganda while the mighty white xenophobic Yanks are brainwashed by a long outdated constitution. Both are in bad need of reform. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Where I overstepped the stick, I wrote, we are ready to negotiate on an equal footing.Tell your friends in Kremlin that. Both Sweden and Denmark has been told by Russians in Kremlin a couple of years ago that "We got the nukes. You don't" . Probably the same threats to Finland and Estonia! |
anniet ![]() Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 ![]() ![]() |
On the few occasions it's been allowed on television in the UK - it is always accompanied with a warning to expect racially offensive language (so the film, The Dam Busters (for example) where it was the name of the dog, can be shown with its soundtrack unaltered). I'm not sure whether that's done in Russia or not. It wasn't really a term that was used in South Africa under the apartheid regime - which might seem odd to many people - but that's because they had found their own very offensive and disrespectful words they could use instead. We're horribly good at doing that, us humans, I think :/ Anyway - this isn't that post I referred to wanting to make earlier because I haven't written it yet :) |
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If a person becomes a participant in such an organization, they will put him in jail. What is the problem? Perhaps you don't or the word doesn't translate. dictatorship noun government by a dictator: forty years of dictatorship. • a country governed by a dictator. • absolute authority in any sphere. You did indicate that any organization can be banned by calling it extreme, without evidence that it actually is extreme, or by changing the definition of extreme; that is an absolute power. extreme adjective 1 reaching a high or the highest degree; very great: extreme cold. • not usual; exceptional: in extreme cases the soldier may be discharged. • very severe or serious: expulsion is an extreme sanction. • (of a person or their opinions) advocating severe or drastic measures; far from moderate, especially politically: the party has expelled some of its more extreme members. • denoting or relating to a sport performed in a hazardous environment and involving great physical risk, such as parachuting or whitewater rafting. 2 [attributive] furthest from the center or a given point; outermost: the extreme northwest of Scotland. noun 1 either of two abstract things that are as different from each other as possible: unbridled talk at one extreme and total silence at the other. • the highest or most extreme degree of something: extremes of temperature. • a very severe or serious act: he was unwilling to go to the extreme of civil war. 2 Logic the subject or predicate in a proposition, or the major or minor term in a syllogism (as contrasted with the middle term). Most of us in the west think of extreme as "a very severe or serious act" when discussing crimes. Like bombing or using nerve gas, not like dancing and chanting offensive phrases. The level of conformity to the norm you describe as required in Russia is frankly an astounding level of government control to us in the west. From the rest of your comments, the Russian Orthodox Church there seems to have absolute authority so it is a dictatorship. Your comments also indicate it has effective control of the courts and government. Also from the rest of your comments it seems as if the Russian Orthodox Church is a terrorist organization. However finding a religion, any religion, to be terrorist is not a surprise. Most religions have a terrorist principal at their core, a belief they are supreme and correct and a willingness to force others to do their bidding. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
What can be offensive in the word "Negro" or "Niger"? Sigh... The name does not come from the name Niger River. It comes from the Spanish word Negra meaning black! Today it's very offensive to call a person that. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80 Ð’ Ñовременном руÑÑком Ñзыке Ñлово «негр» никогда не ÑвлÑлоÑÑŒ ÑтилиÑтичеÑки отрицательно окрашенным; такое положение ÑохранÑетÑÑ Ð¸ по Ñей день. Ð’ то же времÑ, пришедшее из СШРÑлово «ниггер» (англ. nigger) употреблÑетÑÑ Ð² его оригинальном значении — как оÑкорбительное наименование чернокожего. По аналогии Ñ Ð¿Ð¾Ð»Ð¸Ñ‚ÐºÐ¾Ñ€Ñ€ÐµÐºÑ‚Ð½Ñ‹Ð¼ «афроамериканцы» в СМИ поÑвилÑÑ Ð½ÐµÐ¾Ð»Ð¾Ð³Ð¸Ð·Ð¼ «афророÑÑиÑне». ÐнтропологичеÑкий термин негритоÌÑ Ð² проÑторечии иÑпользуетÑÑ ÐºÐ°Ðº шутливое либо пренебрежительное, а Ñлово «черномазый» — как оÑкорбительное. |
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Vadim, the worst thing you can do when you are stuck in a hole is keep digging. |
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Vadim, the worst thing you can do when you are stuck in a hole is keep digging. The arguments you are making. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
For example, Russians are called MuscovitesBut that's very different and have no racial derogatory. It's like sometimes we Swedes call Norwegians "Norrbaggar" and English people call Frenchmen "Frogeaters". Reminder "No abusive messages involving race, religion, nationality, gender, class or sexuality." in this forum. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Bulbashi? Not only in Belarus. Russia, Estonia, Finland and Sweden as well:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpXanUgokx0 |
anniet ![]() Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 ![]() ![]() |
What can be offensive in the word "Negro" or "Niger"?I was not discussing those words though. I didn't think you were either so I hope you'll forgive my surprise ;) This toponymic name comes from the Niger River.I know. (edit: but moomin knows more :)) Nigeria and Nigerians are also not politically correct names?There's absolutely nothing wrong them. Why would there be? This country and people in AfricaI know where Nigeria is. I have friends from there :) Russia is called a Negro, I do not think this is an insulting word.Again - that is not the word I thought was under discussion though. I just don't feel I have reason enough to continue to use a word, wherever I learned it, once I know it is hurtful to someone else. But again - I'm talking about it in the form you originally posted it. If it is not offensive in Russia - then I am glad that everyone who gets called it feels valued and respected by its use. |
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OK. you have been advocating the tyranny of the majority, I find that to be very oppressive, you think it's just fine. |
anniet ![]() Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 ![]() ![]() |
So you know everything, it's hard to pick you up. It is very good.What I know is that I don't know everything. But I am pretty good on Africa though :) more so below the equator than above. |
anniet ![]() Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 ![]() ![]() |
You probably will be interested in the story of a man from Ethiopia, who was brought to Russia and he became a great man. Yes, he was black, but he was respected and loved. Thank you. It was a most interesting read. English translation: Abram Petrovich Gannibal |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
You probably will be interested in the story of a man from Ethiopia, who was brought to Russia and he became a great man. Yes, he was black, but he was respected and loved.I'm also interested of the story. Because there is more to the story. Apparently Avram Hannibal was married to Christina Regina von Sjöberg:) https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.talk.royalty/ZZg2tHCVrGc Anniet. Nice to see you here with your cat again:) |
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