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Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Russia has the right to restrict the activities of any organization and its participants but its territory, which are extremist, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?Sorry Vadim, but the more you post, the more you come across as a Russian version of Clyde, so I'll ask this only once. Provide evidence that Jehovah's Witnesses are extremists/terrorists. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
But those are not religious organizations, They are terrorist organizations having religion as a cover.The Islamic state, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda are also religious organizations, or you did not know it and all of them are extremist.They are not imprisoned for religious beliefs, but for participating in an organization, do you understand the difference?It is a religious organisation - do you understand? Most of them hasn't even read the Quran. I think you mean ISIL aka IS aka ISIS aka Daesh. Of course not! |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
I do not have to prove anything to you.You already have & if you cannot see how, I'm not a teacher, so go back see what you have posted. :-) |
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moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Only problem is that the recruit fighters for religious reasons. Only problem? To those involved in terrorist organisations it's only peace in the world when all humans adhere to Islam. btw speaking of recruting. Russian is, in fact, the next most widely used language for IS after Arabic. There is, for example, an IS magazine in Russian, "Istok", which focuses mainly on Central Asia. Like Uzbekistan! |
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If a person becomes a participant in such an organization, they will put him in jail. What is the problem? Thanks for the confirmation that Russia is a dictatorship and any opposition organization can be banned because it is "extreme" |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
I'll write this slowly as I know you cannot read fast. You have stated on an international forum that Jehovah's Witnesses are an extremist organisation & you lumped them alongside ISIS & Al Qaeda. You did so as an individual & I as an individual asked for evidence of that fact. No court is perfect, in fact throughout the world there have been many cases of injustices done. ARE you saying that you & Russia is perfect? Sorry I did not insult result Russia. however you on the other hand... |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
A dictatorship is one that stifles all opposition to those in power. You have ably shown what happens to opposition in Russia, so... |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
The Russian Constitution is only from 1993. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Russia Some amendments in 2008. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_Russia Section One:2 Rights and Liberties of Man and Citizen Freedom of opinion in Russia is still VERY different compared to the Western World. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Jehovah's Witnesses are the opposition. Not fun of me))))))Not making fun of you at all. Are you smoking or drinking?No. Do you have Al Qaeda in the US or ISIL allowed?You label Jehovah's Witnesses as extremists. Unlike those you named, do they bear arms or use suicide bombers? |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Naturally different, we have different worldviews.Not true. The Russian view of Freedom of Opinion and Assembling stated in the Constitution is the about the same as the Western World's However the implementation is very different. FSB seems to still have the KGB manuals! |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
But you all, as one advocate for abortion and the main life of a woman.So if a pregnancy becomes complicated enough that to continue the life of the woman becomes endangered, you want the pregnancy to continue because of that belief & in due course (which has happened) both lives are lost? |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
You can understand that it was not I who called them extremists. They were called by the Russian court.That is a fair comment. Your mistake was lumping them In with terrorist organisations. At one time or another, even governments were extremists because of their views & laws. |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
I do not argue.Now yes... ...but at one time... The Church was caught in the crossfire of the Russian Civil War that began later in 1918, and Church leadership, despite their attempts to be politically neutral (from the autumn of 1918), as well as the clergy generally were perceived by the Soviet authorities as a "counter-revolutionary" force and thus subject to suppression and eventual liquidation. In the first five years after the Bolshevik revolution, 28 bishops and 1,200 priests were executed. ...isn't that called "suppression"? |
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Speaking of Freedom of Opinion and Assembling. ECHR condemns Pussy Riot and Anna Politkovskaya cases The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has condemned Russia for its handling of two high-profile cases. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44857461 It said Russia had violated five articles of the human rights convention in its arrest and conviction of Pussy Riot members in 2012. Three women from the activist group were arrested after performing a protest song in a Moscow cathedral. Separately, the ECHR also heavily criticised the investigation into journalist Anna Politkovskaya's murder. Politkovskaya was shot dead in a lift in her block of flats in 2006. Five men were found guilty of her murder in 2014, although it is still not known who commissioned the assassination. |
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Just like Clyde, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole Vadim. |
moomin ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Pussy Riot convicted lawfully. They nor the right to dance in the Moscow church.European Court of Human Rights explained. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-16924514 The court, which was set up in 1959 in the French city of Strasbourg, considers cases brought by individuals, organisations and states against the countries which are bound by the convention; namely, all European nations except Belarus.Why Belarus are excluded I don't know. But Russia is a part Europe. Right? Russia has judges in the ECHR! Dmitry Dedov. ![]() https://www.echr.coe.int/Pages/home.aspx?p=court/judges&c=#n1368718271710_pointer |
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