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Message 1944967 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:16:52 UTC - in response to Message 1944961.  

Wasn't that what your comrades said in October 1917? 7 decades later - Phhtttttttt, into the history books they went :-)
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Message 1944970 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:19:23 UTC

Like others here you should stop listening to propaganda that puts out fake news and get the real facts. ;-)
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Message 1944976 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:28:43 UTC

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Message 1944977 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 1944959.  
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But Russia is a part Europe. Right?

No, it's not right.
Why did you decide that Russia is part of Europe? Who decided this? Is Europe part of Russia? Russia is bigger and stronger than Europe several times and you want us to be part of Europe? Do you have a healthy head?
Either we negotiate on an equal footing, or we are in confrontation.
Sigh...
Are you still living in medieval Russia?
Already Tsar Peter the Great acknowledged that Russia was very much European for about 300 hundred years ago!
Why do you think Saint Petersburg exists?
And occuping Kaliningrad in the WWII?
Yes. Russia is bigger and stronger than many European countries like Estonia and Finland. And Sweden!
Should we submit because of that?
BLIN! We don't!

Ты перегнула палку.
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Message 1944981 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 1944971.  

Wasn't that what your comrades said in October 1917? 7 decades later - Phhtttttttt, into the history books they went :-)


I did not have comrades in 1917.
Are you still living in the 20th century?
I want to tell you that it's the 21st century and there are not any Communists anymore.
You said "your time is gone sad in silence"

By my referring to Russia's past, I showed that things change over time. A point you confirmed by stating that this is the 21st century & that communism is gone (From Russia at least).

21st century indeed..

You asked for debate & when you get answers you do not like, you insult. Are you sure you're not Clyde using another account, because you are beginning to adapt his style.
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Message 1944983 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:39:24 UTC

Mighty white xenophobic Russians are brainwashed by propaganda while the mighty white xenophobic Yanks are brainwashed by a long outdated constitution.

Both are in bad need of reform.
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Message 1944993 - Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 22:53:17 UTC - in response to Message 1944982.  

Where I overstepped the stick, I wrote, we are ready to negotiate on an equal footing.
We do not want. that you would obey us and we will not obey you.
Tell your friends in Kremlin that.
Both Sweden and Denmark has been told by Russians in Kremlin a couple of years ago that "We got the nukes. You don't" .
Probably the same threats to Finland and Estonia!
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Message 1945028 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 0:35:21 UTC - in response to Message 1944854.  

On the few occasions it's been allowed on television in the UK - it is always accompanied with a warning to expect racially offensive language (so the film, The Dam Busters (for example) where it was the name of the dog, can be shown with its soundtrack unaltered). I'm not sure whether that's done in Russia or not.

It wasn't really a term that was used in South Africa under the apartheid regime - which might seem odd to many people - but that's because they had found their own very offensive and disrespectful words they could use instead.

We're horribly good at doing that, us humans, I think :/ Anyway - this isn't that post I referred to wanting to make earlier because I haven't written it yet :)
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Message 1945038 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 1:15:25 UTC - in response to Message 1944923.  

If a person becomes a participant in such an organization, they will put him in jail. What is the problem?
They are not imprisoned for religious beliefs, but for participating in an organization, do you understand the difference?

Thanks for the confirmation that Russia is a dictatorship and any opposition organization can be banned because it is "extreme"


Is this a dictatorship?
You probably do not know what dictatorship is. I'm sorry.

Perhaps you don't or the word doesn't translate.
dictatorship
noun
government by a dictator: forty years of dictatorship.
• a country governed by a dictator.
• absolute authority in any sphere.

You did indicate that any organization can be banned by calling it extreme, without evidence that it actually is extreme, or by changing the definition of extreme; that is an absolute power.
extreme
adjective
1 reaching a high or the highest degree; very great: extreme cold.
• not usual; exceptional: in extreme cases the soldier may be discharged.
• very severe or serious: expulsion is an extreme sanction.
• (of a person or their opinions) advocating severe or drastic measures; far from moderate, especially politically: the party has expelled some of its more extreme members.
• denoting or relating to a sport performed in a hazardous environment and involving great physical risk, such as parachuting or whitewater rafting.
2 [attributive] furthest from the center or a given point; outermost: the extreme northwest of Scotland.
noun
1 either of two abstract things that are as different from each other as possible: unbridled talk at one extreme and total silence at the other.
• the highest or most extreme degree of something: extremes of temperature.
• a very severe or serious act: he was unwilling to go to the extreme of civil war.
2 Logic the subject or predicate in a proposition, or the major or minor term in a syllogism (as contrasted with the middle term).

Most of us in the west think of extreme as "a very severe or serious act" when discussing crimes. Like bombing or using nerve gas, not like dancing and chanting offensive phrases. The level of conformity to the norm you describe as required in Russia is frankly an astounding level of government control to us in the west.

From the rest of your comments, the Russian Orthodox Church there seems to have absolute authority so it is a dictatorship. Your comments also indicate it has effective control of the courts and government.

Also from the rest of your comments it seems as if the Russian Orthodox Church is a terrorist organization. However finding a religion, any religion, to be terrorist is not a surprise. Most religions have a terrorist principal at their core, a belief they are supreme and correct and a willingness to force others to do their bidding.
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Message 1945041 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 1:30:13 UTC - in response to Message 1945039.  
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What can be offensive in the word "Negro" or "Niger"?
This toponymic name comes from the Niger River.
Nigeria and Nigerians are also not politically correct names? This country and people in Africa

  Russia is called a Negro, I do not think this is an insulting word.
I was taught at the school, Negroes in Africa live.

Sigh... The name does not come from the name Niger River.
It comes from the Spanish word Negra meaning black!
Today it's very offensive to call a person that.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80
В современном русском языке слово «негр» никогда не являлось стилистически отрицательно окрашенным; такое положение сохраняется и по сей день. В то же время, пришедшее из США слово «ниггер» (англ. nigger) употребляется в его оригинальном значении — как оскорбительное наименование чернокожего. По аналогии с политкорректным «афроамериканцы» в СМИ появился неологизм «афророссияне». Антропологический термин негрито́с в просторечии используется как шутливое либо пренебрежительное, а слово «черномазый» — как оскорбительное.
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Message 1945043 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 1:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 1945042.  

Vadim, the worst thing you can do when you are stuck in a hole is keep digging.
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Message 1945046 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 1:57:16 UTC - in response to Message 1945045.  

Vadim, the worst thing you can do when you are stuck in a hole is keep digging.


Why did you say that?

The arguments you are making.
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Message 1945048 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 2:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 1945044.  

For example, Russians are called Muscovites
Ukrainians called hohlam
of Belarusians called bulbashi (potato in Belarusian)
This is a historical nickname, no one is offended. I like, for example, Ukrainian women call hohlushki.
But that's very different and have no racial derogatory.
It's like sometimes we Swedes call Norwegians "Norrbaggar" and English people call Frenchmen "Frogeaters".
Reminder "No abusive messages involving race, religion, nationality, gender, class or sexuality." in this forum.
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Message 1945050 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 2:19:57 UTC - in response to Message 1945044.  

Bulbashi? Not only in Belarus.
Russia, Estonia, Finland and Sweden as well:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpXanUgokx0
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Message 1945051 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 2:20:32 UTC - in response to Message 1945039.  
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What can be offensive in the word "Negro" or "Niger"?
I was not discussing those words though. I didn't think you were either so I hope you'll forgive my surprise ;)

This toponymic name comes from the Niger River.
I know. (edit: but moomin knows more :))

Nigeria and Nigerians are also not politically correct names?
There's absolutely nothing wrong them. Why would there be?

This country and people in Africa
I know where Nigeria is. I have friends from there :)

Russia is called a Negro, I do not think this is an insulting word.
I was taught at the school, Negroes in Africa live.
Again - that is not the word I thought was under discussion though. I just don't feel I have reason enough to continue to use a word, wherever I learned it, once I know it is hurtful to someone else. But again - I'm talking about it in the form you originally posted it.

If it is not offensive in Russia - then I am glad that everyone who gets called it feels valued and respected by its use.
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Message 1945054 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 2:42:00 UTC - in response to Message 1945047.  

OK. you have been advocating the tyranny of the majority, I find that to be very oppressive, you think it's just fine.
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Message 1945056 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 2:43:30 UTC - in response to Message 1945052.  

So you know everything, it's hard to pick you up. It is very good.
What I know is that I don't know everything. But I am pretty good on Africa though :) more so below the equator than above.
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Message 1945058 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:01:19 UTC - in response to Message 1945053.  
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You probably will be interested in the story of a man from Ethiopia, who was brought to Russia and he became a great man. Yes, he was black, but he was respected and loved.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BB,_%D0%90%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87


Thank you. It was a most interesting read. English translation: Abram Petrovich Gannibal
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Message 1945062 - Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 3:07:47 UTC - in response to Message 1945053.  
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You probably will be interested in the story of a man from Ethiopia, who was brought to Russia and he became a great man. Yes, he was black, but he was respected and loved.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BB,_%D0%90%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
I'm also interested of the story.
Because there is more to the story.
Apparently Avram Hannibal was married to Christina Regina von Sjöberg:)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.talk.royalty/ZZg2tHCVrGc
Anniet. Nice to see you here with your cat again:)
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