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A very steep decline in Average Credits!!!
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Al Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482 |
Mark, completely agree, and couldn't have said it better myself. |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
Mark, completely agree, and couldn't have said it better myself. + 1 |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34381 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Nothing related to M$, Linux boxes has the same decline (or even worst) Not true Juan. My host produces more tasks per day as with arecibo tasks. Ryzen loves BLC tasks. I`m doing more tasks with my CPU than with GPU. Arecibo takes ~4000 sec on CPU BLC ~ 2500 - 3000 sec. Before we got ~100 CR for non overflow tasks, now its ~ 50 -60 cr. Not that i really care, just for explanation. Everyone gets the same and i`m here for science. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
I agree with Mike's statement. Ryzen loves BLC cpu tasks. Almost 50% faster than Arecibo cpu tasks. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
Good to know. Maybe it s time for me to think about an "update" in my CPU/MB I know i have an Aorus AX370-Gaming K5 MB hidden in some place here. In mine GPU's blc05takes 2:20-2:25 min Arecibo Non Vlars <2 min. Previous blc 3-4 min. so the new blc05 WU crunches a lot faster than the previous blc WU but still slower than the Arecibo non Vlars. At least on my host. So as Always YMMV. But the deflation from 100 cr/WU to 50-60 cr/WU is the same here. LOL |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Well, given the fact that we have been dealing with a site not working correctly for, what?? a week in a half to 2 weeks? Is it REALLY that surprising that RAC is falling?? Given that my caches are not able to be kept filled to feed the GPUs, they are force to turn to their back up projects to make up the difference. So...I don't know why everyone is making a big deal out of RAC decline during this period. Yes Arecibo data is gone, but we already knew that was coming..... |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51478 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well, given the fact that we have been dealing with a site not working correctly for, what?? a week in a half to 2 weeks? Is it REALLY that surprising that RAC is falling?? As I said, I don't have a beef about my RAC dropping, really. I would just like the amount of credit awarded for work done to stabilize and not keep dropping, whatever the amount. I don't think that is too much to ask. Meow. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7264 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
But also that it becomes project scientists a little down here, so also the question of where it all meets, by making it both a bit of number crunching and also science, if not any Governance as well for making it all perhaps succeed, or at least for the hope of such. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13855 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
So...I don't know why everyone is making a big deal out of RAC decline during this period. What sucks is that we are processing more work, but getting less recognition for the work we have done. As others have pointed out, what used to pay around 100 now pays 50-60. Grant Darwin NT |
JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 1222 Credit: 451,243,443 RAC: 1,127 |
As I said, I don't have a beef about my RAC dropping, really. I upgraded my 970 to 1080 some 14 days ago and now my RAC goes down , not what I really expected... So I agree 100% what your saying. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
As I said, I don't have a beef about my RAC dropping, really. I agree, the credit situation does not give much endorsement to procuring new hardware, does it? Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Hmmm, I wonder .... About the same time these BLC5 tasks showed up, they updated the splitter code (I think) I wonder if the averaging sstem became broken (frozen) or reset to an arbitrary number by doing so ... |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Hmmm, I wonder .... About the same time these BLC5 tasks showed up, they updated the splitter code (I think) I wonder if the averaging sstem became broken (frozen) or reset to an arbitrary number by doing so ... They did??? Do you remember where you read that? I don't remember anything about the splitter code being updated. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Ohh, I meant scheduler. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Ohh, I meant scheduler. Got it. You were referencing the recent server issues with the database that were addressed. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
If it drops south any faster I'll start to feel g forces |
NorthCup Send message Joined: 6 Jun 99 Posts: 108 Credit: 50,093,984 RAC: 5 |
TBH, what I mostly care about my RAC is that it is an indication of how much actual work I am doing, how hard my system has been working, and _especially_ if something is going wrong. If my RAC is falling, and there is still work in the cache, everything else being equal, that would indicate to me that there is something going on with my computer, and I had best take a look at it to see why. I guess that would be my perfect world scenario, but from the comments above, it appears quite unlikely that it will be addressed any time the the foreseeable future. Hello Al, that's is the point !! I try to make that clear, too. I'm looking for the mistake in my house - which is completely unnecessary! Maybe I am a little smarter about this thread than before and do not look for my installation in the future anymore. Maybe I'll only look if the calculator smokes ?! ;-) greetings Klaus |
Stargate (SA) Send message Joined: 4 Mar 10 Posts: 1854 Credit: 2,258,721 RAC: 0 |
If it smokes maybe to late! |
Advent42 Send message Joined: 23 Mar 17 Posts: 175 Credit: 4,015,683 RAC: 0 |
How does one do Beta tasks?...:-) |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
How does one do Beta tasks?...:-) Attach to the project via http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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