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Message 1969153 - Posted: 7 Dec 2018, 21:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 1969144.  

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Just deplorables making music!

God, Country, Trump and FUN!

Oh is this you?
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Message 1969168 - Posted: 7 Dec 2018, 22:29:25 UTC - in response to Message 1969161.  

Unfortunately, the Ruling Class of Communists, or Socialists, or Liberals, or Conservatives, or Republicans, or Progressives, or the Radical Left, or the Radical Right always live in wealth among their poor people.
Get it right. No matter the political bent of those that rule, they are all in it for themselves.
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Message 1969178 - Posted: 7 Dec 2018, 22:53:23 UTC - in response to Message 1969161.  

Unfortunately, the Ruling Class of Communists, or Socialists, or the Radical Left always live in wealth among their poor people.
Unfortunately, the Ruling Class of Capitalists, or wealty people live in wealth among their poor people.
I guess we less fortunate are all screwed no matter:)
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Message 1969182 - Posted: 7 Dec 2018, 23:10:51 UTC

Well, well, well..........

No matter the political bent of those that rule, they are all in it for themselves.

Unfortunately, the Ruling Class of Capitalists, or wealty people live in wealth among their poor people.

I guess we less fortunate are all screwed no matter:)


I think we are all agreeing on these points. Trickle down only trickles so far. Like most pyramid schemes there are few winners and lots of losers who pay for those winners.

As to the term Environmental Socialism, that's my own invention used to describe an involuntary redistribution of personal wealth to the benefit of an idealistic end through taxation or forced consumption choices.(Just as Obummercare could be termed Medical Socialism).

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1969193 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 0:00:18 UTC - in response to Message 1969182.  

I think we are all agreeing on these points. Trickle down only trickles so far. Like most pyramid schemes there are few winners and lots of losers who pay for those winners.
41 was right, voodoo economics. Should be called vacuum up economics. What can work is pitchfork down economics. Coming soon.
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Message 1969199 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 0:24:52 UTC - in response to Message 1969180.  
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I have included both sides in the above. I was specifically replying to France and the Environmental Left.
But why drag in countries that especially Trump haven't a clue about?
OK. He want's clean air and clean water. How doesn't?
The French want's cheaper fuel.
But how about the climate that affect us all? I mean ALL!
Heck. Trump doesn't bother!
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Message 1969213 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 1:42:58 UTC - in response to Message 1969212.  
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Well...

Cohen didn't help Mueller nor apparently implicate Trump in any criminal activity.

You have read the transcripts then?
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Message 1969217 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 1:55:49 UTC

Seems like Rump has studied history.
Cordell Hull wrote:
In all my 50 years of public service I have never seen a document that was more crowded with infamous falsehoods and distortions - on a scale so huge that I never imagined until today that any government on this planet was capable of uttering them.
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Message 1969259 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 4:40:22 UTC - in response to Message 1969216.  

Well...

Cohen didn't help Mueller nor apparently implicate Trump in any criminal activity.

You have read the transcripts then?

Yes...

Amazing Mueller let you have a copy of those interviews

even if Cohen lied in them you have no idea what crime(s) Cohen implicated Rump in, which may have no relation to the campaign and would be investigated by others
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Message 1969260 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 4:42:10 UTC - in response to Message 1969218.  

Seems like Rump has studied history.
Cordell Hull wrote:
In all my 50 years of public service I have never seen a document that was more crowded with infamous falsehoods and distortions - on a scale so huge that I never imagined until today that any government on this planet was capable of uttering them.

Correct.

You, I and the other American voter's will decide in 2020 if Trump should remain in Office.

Unfortunately not true. Voters in tiny underpopulated states will decide.
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Message 1969274 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 7:33:39 UTC - in response to Message 1969260.  

Seems like Rump has studied history.
Cordell Hull wrote:
In all my 50 years of public service I have never seen a document that was more crowded with infamous falsehoods and distortions - on a scale so huge that I never imagined until today that any government on this planet was capable of uttering them.

Correct.

You, I and the other American voter's will decide in 2020 if Trump should remain in Office.

Unfortunately not true. Voters in tiny underpopulated states will decide.

How true and also very sad that a lot of US citizens don't realise that fact.
And unfortunately it is almost impossible to change the electoral college system.

Good piece a few days ago on 538 on the 200 red districts that will probably remain red no matter what happens. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-200-districts-that-withstood-the-blue-wave-and-what-they-have-in-common/
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Message 1969309 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 13:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 1969216.  

Yes Cohen paid, under direction of Trump money to silence women regarding an alleged sexual encounter. This is not a crime.

It is a crime because at that time it was done to suppress negative stories about Trump during the election.
At any other time he wouldn't have wanted to suppress the stories as he would have said it proved he is the world's greatest lover.
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Message 1969338 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 15:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 1969323.  
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Message 1969344 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 16:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 1969339.  

Well that's not what The latest filings show that nobody can save Trump now

This is bad news for Cohen, but there’s something else interesting in the filing: Prosecutors explicitly state that Cohen coordinated with President Trump on hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal over his alleged affairs with them: “as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.” That’s Donald Trump.

We knew this already — and we knew that Trump lied about it, claiming not to know about the payments — but this says that prosecutors believe that Trump ordered Cohen to commit a crime.


And we still have to see what is said about the National Enquirer and the other payment.
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Message 1969346 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 16:50:02 UTC
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Jeez. How ignorante can a person be?
The US president still thinks that the Paris riots is about environment issues and want Trump to help France!
FAKE NEWS FROM TRUMP https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071382401954267136
The Paris Agreement isn’t working out so well for Paris. Protests and riots all over France. People do not want to pay large sums of money, much to third world countries (that are questionably run), in order to maybe protect the environment. Chanting “We Want Trump!” Love France.

And they DON'T Chanting “We Want Trump!”
The demonstrators feel that this movement has become a power factor and that there are other demands and other things you want to change in depth in this society. One feels that the French government has been a government that has benefited the rich and not the ones who are more less fortunate,
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Message 1969358 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 17:48:08 UTC - in response to Message 1969344.  

Well that's not what The latest filings show that nobody can save Trump now

This is bad news for Cohen, but there’s something else interesting in the filing: Prosecutors explicitly state that Cohen coordinated with President Trump on hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal over his alleged affairs with them: “as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.” That’s Donald Trump.

We knew this already — and we knew that Trump lied about it, claiming not to know about the payments — but this says that prosecutors believe that Trump ordered Cohen to commit a crime.


And we still have to see what is said about the National Enquirer and the other payment.

Even more damning statement in the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/07/opinion/trump-collusion-cohen-manafort.html

Calling on the court to impose a sentence of substantial imprisonment against Michael Cohen, the president’s former personal attorney, prosecutors in the Southern District of New York stated that Mr. Trump, the Trump Organization and the campaign were all directly involved in an illegal scheme to silence two women who claimed they had affairs with Mr. Trump. Prosecutors wrote that payments made by Mr. Cohen and other actions were taken “with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election” and pursued “in coordination with and at the direction of Individual 1” — that is, Mr. Trump.
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Message 1969401 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 23:00:16 UTC

Every reasonable person now agrees the only reason Rump isn't sitting in the defendants chair is the Nixon era memo that POTUS can't be indicted. If 25 is ever activated or in about two years Rump is going to be facing more time than Cohen!

The more interesting is that the language on Cohen doesn't refer to individual 1 as an unindicted co-conspirator, so does that mean there is an indictment and it just can't / hasn't been served?
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Message 1969403 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 23:04:53 UTC

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Message 1969406 - Posted: 8 Dec 2018, 23:16:23 UTC - in response to Message 1969403.  

A White House job is never easy, but this administration has chewed through senior staff at a record pace. Donald Trump is on his third national security adviser, fifth communications director and soon to be third chief of staff.
Quite amazing...
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