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Message 1948251 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 21:40:40 UTC

ROFLMFAO!!!!!
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Message 1948257 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 22:03:57 UTC

Does socialism scare you that much Clyde?
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Message 1948259 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 22:18:00 UTC

It's only people like you Clyde that would want to destroy socialism as you're certainly not a social person as you just keep on continually proving to us.

Instead all you can do is to try and bait others because you don't have anything better to do with your time. ;-)
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Message 1948262 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 22:28:19 UTC

Maybe you should spend some time in a country with a "proper social democracy" to find out for yourself Clyde. ;-)
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Message 1948266 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 22:36:46 UTC - in response to Message 1948263.  
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Bees and Ants live in socialist societies. Are they destroying themselves? Don't forget they go through many generations for one of humans.
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Message 1948267 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 22:38:22 UTC

I see Rick Gates is singing like a caged bird. Manafort is sure to follow!
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Message 1948269 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 22:40:11 UTC - in response to Message 1948266.  
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Bees and Ants live in socialist societies. Are they destroying themselves? Don't forget they go through many generations for one of humans.
Along with many other animals that live in socialist societies that also havn't destroyed themselves.

But Clyde is anti-social so all that will go over his head as well.

[edit] Now what "Royal Dictator's" are you on about Clyde and where are they? (there's certainly none here)
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Message 1948273 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 23:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 1948269.  

Bees and Ants live in socialist societies. Are they destroying themselves? Don't forget they go through many generations for one of humans.
Along with many other animals that live in socialist societies that also havn't destroyed themselves.

But Clyde is anti-social so all that will go over his head as well.

Gosh a pod of Orca's goes and surrounds a school of fish and blows at the same time to trap them so everyone in the pod can get a good meal. Clyde would be the lone capitalist orca.

Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.
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Message 1948274 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 23:02:42 UTC

A very applicable description there Gary. ;-)
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Message 1948275 - Posted: 6 Aug 2018, 23:06:13 UTC - in response to Message 1948263.  
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Here Socialism lead to the destruction of people such as giving us free education, almost free healthcare, and guaranteed minimal pensions.
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Message 1948279 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 0:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 1948273.  

Antisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others. People with antisocial personality disorder tend to antagonize, manipulate or treat others harshly or with callous indifference. They show no guilt or remorse for their behavior.
narcissism
excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance.
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extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.
Put those two together, & you have a perfect example in the White House.
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Message 1948281 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 0:37:31 UTC - in response to Message 1948277.  

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Message 1948284 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 0:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 1948282.  

You are playing the semantics game. As a trained economist I see many degrees of socialism. The world is not black and white, there are many shades of grey.
A a self proclaimed historical academician I find it to be very disturbing that you are so closed minded.
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Message 1948286 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 1:12:36 UTC - in response to Message 1948282.  
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Here Socialism lead to the destruction of people such as giving us free education, almost free healthcare, and guaranteed minimal pensions.
What you are describing is not Socialism. But a Social Welfare State under Capitalism. A Capitalism which supplies funds for the Peoples Welfare. A Social Welfare System which I vigorously support.


Aka social democracy...
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Message 1948288 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 1:26:12 UTC - in response to Message 1948287.  
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I would guess that my support of a Social Welfare State/Social Democracy. Will not be understood by many on the Radical Left who continually attack me.


May not be what you are saying but more how you are saying it. :^p I find myself agreeing with your actual ideas often...

I surmise that you may find they would actually agree with you... many who call themselves "socialists" use the term as synonymous with "social democrats". There aren't many who advocate the transfer of the means of production from private ownership these days. For one, it reduces or eliminates competition, which is essential to prevent stagnation and inefficiency. China uses the "market socialist" model where companies behave as though they were privately owned capitalist entities in competition but are still owned and/or controlled by the state.

I haven't seen a "Radical Left" person in this forum yet however. Everyone here is pretty moderate. :^)
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Message 1948291 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 1:45:25 UTC

Socialist Democrat..................is an oxymoron.


Using your ant and bee colony example............how many ants and bees get to vote on who does what job today?

And free education is not Education when it stifles other ideas, speech and belief systems that may not be compatible with the providers POV..........that's Indoctrination.

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
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Message 1948292 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 1:46:54 UTC - in response to Message 1948285.  
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You are playing the semantics game. As a trained economist I see many degrees of socialism. The world is not black and white, there are many shades of grey.
A a self proclaimed historical academician I find it to be very disturbing that you are so closed minded.

Sorry betreger...

#1 - Your silence regarding Mr. "Socialist" and Gary's belief that ant colonies and bee hives are an example of successful Socialism. Is a conformation of my beliefs.

#2 - Since both Mr. "Socialist" and Gary have fortunately exposed exactly what degree of Socialism they support.

I will be awaiting yours.

I was not talking about anybody but you, your lame attempt to deflect exposes your weak logic. If you don't want to be exposed pull up your pants.
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Message 1948300 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 4:01:27 UTC - in response to Message 1948288.  

I haven't seen a "Radical Left" person in this forum yet however. Everyone here is pretty moderate. :^)

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however many have been accused
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Message 1948301 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 4:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1948291.  

Using your ant and bee colony example............how many ants and bees get to vote on who does what job today?

I sense a huge pile of straw being assembled. You want the government to decide on a day to day basis what each person does. Good luck assembling that pile of straw.
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Message 1948328 - Posted: 7 Aug 2018, 12:27:10 UTC

Two guys from Delaware, Ohio at a Trump rally:)

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/russian-tv-host-features-trump-fans-id-rather-a-russian-than-a-democrat-shirt
A presenter on state-owned Russia-1 held up a shirt with a similar graphic on air, saying, “Look, these T-shirts are now being sold in the United States and are in high demand in the Republican camp.”
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