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Message 2019749 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 14:54:52 UTC - in response to Message 2019741.  

◾Mr Trump himself has acknowledged that he personally blocked nearly $400m in military aid to Ukraine
◾At about the same time, he spoke by phone with Ukraine's new president
◾In the call, Mr Trump pushed Ukraine's president to investigate his leading domestic political rival, Joe Biden
◾A complaint by a whistleblower in the intelligence community, who spoke with White House sources about the call, alleges Mr Trump used "the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the US 2020 election"

Mr Trump says the investigation is part of a "witch-hunt" against him, and he denies that military aid was withheld in order to put pressure on Ukraine.
He has also demanded to know who gave information to the whistleblower, saying the source was "close to a spy".
In an interview with the Atlantic, Mr Giuliani said he was simply "straightening out government" by calling for investigations into the Bidens.

"It is impossible that the whistle-blower is a hero and I'm not," he said. "And I will be the hero! These morons - when this is over, I will be the hero."
You have a lot to worry about in your own backyard than what is happening elsewhere in the world.
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Message 2019744 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 14:17:47 UTC - in response to Message 2019736.  
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Back to the topic, the Republican witnesses on Tuesday came out and reinforced the story the Democrats have been saying. Nunes can spin whatever he wants but the fact is Trump was caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

Didn't they and other witnesses reply "no" to the specific question if Trump committed bribery or other crime?

BTW: Anti Trump witness US Army Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was offered, three times, the Ukraine Defense Minister position???

What???
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Message 2019743 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 14:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 2019730.  
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IMHO the world would be a better place if all these upstarts would go back to whence they came and restore the world to its rightful state where the English Empire ruled. Killing off all the unbelievers and letting all those that survive to give us all their resources and wealth.

Well, the USA tried to emulate, but there are too many here who have ethics to be a cruel as required to pull that off.

Then the Hispanic's, now controlling the indigenous people of Latin America and occupying their land, must also return.

Since all people's have been conquered and occupied by "foreigner's" and this practice did not start in 1492. Exactly what year do we use to be redraw the map of the world.

1492? 1100? 780? 240? 77? Before? What year?
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Message 2019741 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 14:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 2019722.  
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China is only repeating the actions of the US 200 years ago.

More than two centuries ago, the young United States, an agrarian backwater lacking in skilled workers, held a different view of other nations’ trade secrets: They were, it seemed, up for grabs. In 2012, having surveyed the sordid history of U.S. industrial espionage, the journal Foreign Policy called America “the China of the 19th century.

“Only after becoming the leading industrial power did it become a champion of intellectual-property protections,” said Andreas, author of “Smuggler Nation: How Illicit Trade Made America.”

Hamilton, determined to transform America into an industrial power, argued in 1791 that the United States needed “to procure all such machines as are known in any part of Europe.”


https://apnews.com/b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53

Probably should be another Topic.

BTW: Some expanding empires were, and are now, worse than others.

Today and for the future there is a choice. Accept expanding criminal China controlling more and more and more. Or, oppose criminal China.

Those that deny that a future of increasing control by criminal China will be bad for all. Are...

Explain how to me how China's actions against people resident in their country is not similar to US actions against the native population and those that settled in the West before the non-latin whites invaded.
And how stealing mainly European intellectual-property by the US should not be compared to what China is doing now.

Why you accept the present day China subjecting their people, and possibly you in the future, to what happened to other's in the past. Is...

Sorry Nick,

That you accept the present day criminal China's evil's because of past evil's. Makes no sense.

Criminal China is far worse than the criminal activity's of Western Europe, Canada, the USA, et al.
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Message 2019736 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 11:11:18 UTC

Back to the topic, the Republican witnesses on Tuesday came out and reinforced the story the Democrats have been saying. Nunes can spin whatever he wants but the fact is Trump was caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
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Message 2019730 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 5:26:43 UTC - in response to Message 2019700.  

IMHO the world would be a better place if all these upstarts would go back to whence they came and restore the world to its rightful state where the English Empire ruled. Killing off all the unbelievers and letting all those that survive to give us all their resources and wealth.

Well, the USA tried to emulate, but there are too many here who have ethics to be a cruel as required to pull that off.
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Message 2019729 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 5:20:46 UTC - in response to Message 2019722.  

You are forgetting the French and their role before the Louisiana Purchase. But few US Citizens want to realize what criminals the forefathers of their country were. Never mind most were slave owners, or perhaps the mindset that allowed them to own a human is exactly what allowed them to be so criminal in so many ways. Kind of like the GOP today.
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Message 2019722 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 2:46:11 UTC - in response to Message 2019709.  

China is only repeating the actions of the US 200 years ago.

More than two centuries ago, the young United States, an agrarian backwater lacking in skilled workers, held a different view of other nations’ trade secrets: They were, it seemed, up for grabs. In 2012, having surveyed the sordid history of U.S. industrial espionage, the journal Foreign Policy called America “the China of the 19th century.

“Only after becoming the leading industrial power did it become a champion of intellectual-property protections,” said Andreas, author of “Smuggler Nation: How Illicit Trade Made America.”

Hamilton, determined to transform America into an industrial power, argued in 1791 that the United States needed “to procure all such machines as are known in any part of Europe.”


https://apnews.com/b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53

Probably should be another Topic.

BTW: Some expanding empires were, and are now, worse than others.

Today and for the future there is a choice. Accept expanding criminal China controlling more and more and more. Or, oppose criminal China.

Those that deny that a future of increasing control by criminal China will be bad for all. Are...

Explain how to me how China's actions against people resident in their country is not similar to US actions against the native population and those that settled in the West before the non-latin whites invaded.
And how stealing mainly European intellectual-property by the US should not be compared to what China is doing now.
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Message 2019718 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 2:06:29 UTC - in response to Message 2019711.  
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We have an aging Country ;-)
Aren't all countries aging?:) Whatever. The Dems need some real opponent to the Republicans to make some change in the next election. I cannot see anyone now really.
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Message 2019711 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:25:51 UTC - in response to Message 2019710.  
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Depends upon which Democrat Candidate goes against Trump.A Lefty ideologue would have a big problem garnering enough votes in the "Swing States"
Agreed. There is a problem for the Dems to elect someone. Why are so many of them running for president so very old?

We have an aging Country ;-)
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Message 2019710 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 2019705.  

Depends upon which Democrat Candidate goes against Trump.A Lefty ideologue would have a big problem garnering enough votes in the "Swing States"
Agreed. There is a problem for the Dems to elect someone. Why are so many of them running for president so very old?
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Message 2019709 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:22:57 UTC - in response to Message 2019707.  
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China is only repeating the actions of the US 200 years ago.

More than two centuries ago, the young United States, an agrarian backwater lacking in skilled workers, held a different view of other nations’ trade secrets: They were, it seemed, up for grabs. In 2012, having surveyed the sordid history of U.S. industrial espionage, the journal Foreign Policy called America “the China of the 19th century.

“Only after becoming the leading industrial power did it become a champion of intellectual-property protections,” said Andreas, author of “Smuggler Nation: How Illicit Trade Made America.”

Hamilton, determined to transform America into an industrial power, argued in 1791 that the United States needed “to procure all such machines as are known in any part of Europe.”


https://apnews.com/b40414d22f2248428ce11ff36b88dc53

Probably should be another Topic.

BTW: Some expanding empires were, and are now, worse than others.

Today and for the future there is a choice. Accept expanding criminal China controlling more and more and more. Or, oppose criminal China.

Those that deny that a future of increasing control by criminal China will be bad for all. Are...
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Message 2019707 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:15:24 UTC
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China is only repeating the actions of the US 200 years ago. Clyde should approve, considering previous posts.

More than two centuries ago, the young United States, an agrarian backwater lacking in skilled workers, held a different view of other nations’ trade secrets: They were, it seemed, up for grabs. In 2012, having surveyed the sordid history of U.S. industrial espionage, the journal Foreign Policy called America “the China of the 19th century.

“Only after becoming the leading industrial power did it become a champion of intellectual-property protections,” said Andreas, author of “Smuggler Nation: How Illicit Trade Made America.”

Hamilton, determined to transform America into an industrial power, argued in 1791 that the United States needed “to procure all such machines as are known in any part of Europe.”


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Message 2019706 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:09:27 UTC - in response to Message 2019702.  
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Blin! This thread is about the stable genius Trump. Now his relations to China, Russia and North Korea are well known by now. The clock is ticking... It's the final countdown https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?csz=1&iso=20210120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Trump+leaves+office&p0=263

If he is Convicted or if the States, following the wishes of their voter's, vote to elect another person on 2020... If not...
January 2025 is when he leaves Office :-(
No. For heaven's sake No. The US voters wont him again I'm sure:)

If they do then I predict that Gary's post will be edited to;

They will obey Shanghai Stock Exchange! It is ordained.
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Message 2019705 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:08:28 UTC - in response to Message 2019702.  
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Blin! This thread is about the stable genius Trump. Now his relations to China, Russia and North Korea are well known by now. The clock is ticking... It's the final countdown https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?csz=1&iso=20210120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Trump+leaves+office&p0=263

If he is Convicted or if the States, following the wishes of their voter's, vote to elect another person on 2020... If not...
January 2025 is when he leaves Office :-(
No. For heaven's sake No. The US voters wont him again I'm sure:)

Depends upon which Democrat Candidate goes against Trump.

A Lefty ideologue would have a big problem garnering enough votes in the "Swing States"
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Message 2019703 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 1:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 2019698.  

You were so easy to expose and it was fun :-D
How many times has tRump applied Chapter 11 & has he paid off all his creditors yet?
If not, does that not make him the biggest criminal in the US? Bigger than Putin I would say.
Mind you, most American companies are criminal - just look at Boeing for instance.
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Message 2019702 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 0:59:33 UTC - in response to Message 2019701.  

Blin! This thread is about the stable genius Trump. Now his relations to China, Russia and North Korea are well known by now. The clock is ticking... It's the final countdown https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?csz=1&iso=20210120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Trump+leaves+office&p0=263

If he is Convicted or if the States, following the wishes of their voter's, vote to elect another person on 2020... If not...
January 2025 is when he leaves Office :-(
No. For heaven's sake No. The US voters wont him again I'm sure:)
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Message 2019701 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 0:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 2019699.  
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Blin! This thread is about the stable genius Trump. Now his relations to China, Russia and North Korea are well known by now. The clock is ticking... It's the final countdown https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?csz=1&iso=20210120T00&msg=Time+left+until+Trump+leaves+office&p0=263

If he is Convicted or if the States, following the wishes of their voter's, vote to elect another person on 2020... If not...

January 2025 is when he leaves Office :-(
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Message 2019700 - Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 0:50:26 UTC - in response to Message 2019694.  
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For years, you have espoused your views. that as an American, you care little for what views the rest of the world have towards the USA. Therefore, why are you wetting your pants over China & Russia?

All country's and humans are imperfect.

As a proponent of a Social Welfare State and a non excuser of Capitalism.

Sorry, but your attempted excusal of criminal China and Russia and that they, if they won, would be the same as the USA. Is...

Dear Sirius B,

Why do you believe that an expansionist criminal China is OK and the world would be a better place under their increasing economic control.

Edited to add: And your belief that criminal Russia supplying much needed energy to some Country's in Europe is what you also accept.

IMHO the world would be a better place if all these upstarts would go back to whence they came and restore the world to its rightful state where the English Empire ruled. Killing off all the unbelievers and letting all those that survive to give us all their resources and wealth.
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