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Message 2002411 - Posted: 13 Jul 2019, 16:38:33 UTC

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/crackdown-on-immigrant-families-to-start-sunday-trump-says-idUSKCN1U71TU“
People are coming into this country illegally, we are taking them out legally,” Trump told reporters on Friday, calling it a “major operation” that would mainly focus on removing criminals.
Yes. ALL immigrants to the US are criminals. Raus!
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Message 2002456 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 0:06:27 UTC

Yes. ALL immigrants to the US are criminals. Raus!
Now you KNOW full well that is not the truth. Why do you insist on bending reality. The US takes in over 1 million LEGAL immigrants a year. Name another country that allows that many people to relocate each year to their system.

By the way, it's probably old news to you, it didn't get much play in the States due to the sway of the Marxist/Leninist/Socialist controlled mass media, but what is your take on these headlines from March.....

Finland: Government Collapses Over Universal Health Care Costs,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/03/finland-government-collapses-over-universal-health-care-costs-bernie2020-hardest-hit/?fbclid=IwAR1iI--6SmeyrnpCYl-D-7JVxEAfpqewc71GdHDz-Ym8tsDTJJcsz8-WZkw

......“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

If you don't like the source, here's a couple more...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/finlands-government-collapses-weeks-before-general-election-11552037078

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/pension-crisis/finland-government-collapses-why-the-media-is-silent/

https://www.politico.eu/article/finlands-government-collapses-over-failed-health-care-reform/

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Message 2002460 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 0:31:04 UTC - in response to Message 2002456.  

Obviously what Finland has done has not worked well in a very important fiscal sense but what what has happened under Obama care and the previous health care system has not done well either.
The problem is that people do not want to pay taxes for the services they demand, witness the incredible growth in national debt. Methinks one should borrow when necessary such as the great recession and pay down the debt during prosperous times such as now.
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Message 2002467 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 0:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 2002456.  

Name another country that allows that many people to relocate each year to their system.

Don't be fooled by absolute numbers. The US has a larger population than most countries, and although a figure over a million/year might look large, in percentage terms in relation to the US total population, it is much smaller than your norther neighbour, and about the same percentage as the UK. And compared to the UK the US has a lot more room for them as the population density of the UK is over 700/mile² and the US is lower than 90/mile².
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Message 2002468 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 0:55:48 UTC - in response to Message 2002456.  
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The US takes in over 1 million LEGAL immigrants a year.

Make that 1.13 million in 2017
But for comparison 1.02 million in 1905 and 1.04 million in 1910.

You might think in the century difference when world population has gone from 1.6 billion 1900 to 7.4 billion 2017 that the number admitted might have gone up.

Name another country that allows that many people to relocate each year to their system.

Germany. 1.03 million 2015.

You really should ask that question on a per capita basis.
https://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359963625/dozens-of-countries-take-in-more-immigrants-per-capita-than-the-u-s
If you think the United States is every immigrant's dream, reconsider. Sure, in absolute numbers, the U.S. is home to the most foreign-born people — 45.7 million in 2013.

But relatively, it's upper-midpack as an immigrant nation. It ranks 65th worldwide in terms of percentage of population that is foreign-born, according to the U.N. report "Trends in International Migrant Stock."

Immigrants make up more than a fourth (27.7 percent) of the land Down Under; two other settler nations, New Zealand and Canada, weigh in with 25.1 and 20.7 percent foreign-born, respectively. That's compared with 14.3 percent in the United States.

Monaco (64.2 percent foreign-born), Andorra (56.9 percent), Luxembourg (43.3 percent) and Singapore (42.9 percent), among others.

Isn't the USA supposed to be number one on every list under MAGA? Sixty-fifth? Have to do a lot better to MAGA!
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Message 2002537 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 12:52:41 UTC - in response to Message 2002456.  

Yes. ALL immigrants to the US are criminals. Raus!
Now you KNOW full well that is not the truth. Why do you insist on bending reality. The US takes in over 1 million LEGAL immigrants a year. Name another country that allows that many people to relocate each year to their system.

By the way, it's probably old news to you, it didn't get much play in the States due to the sway of the Marxist/Leninist/Socialist controlled mass media, but what is your take on these headlines from March.....

Finland: Government Collapses Over Universal Health Care Costs,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/03/finland-government-collapses-over-universal-health-care-costs-bernie2020-hardest-hit/?fbclid=IwAR1iI--6SmeyrnpCYl-D-7JVxEAfpqewc71GdHDz-Ym8tsDTJJcsz8-WZkw
......“Similar problems are bedeviling Sweden and Denmark, two other countries frequently held up as models to follow on health care”

If you don't like the source, here's a couple more...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/finlands-government-collapses-weeks-before-general-election-11552037078
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/pension-crisis/finland-government-collapses-why-the-media-is-silent/
https://www.politico.eu/article/finlands-government-collapses-over-failed-health-care-reform/

LOL:) Of course I know it's not true.
But reading and hearing Trump the Genius and others in the media I get the impression that the US are invaded by hoards of criminal immigrants.
Then why do you bring up healthcare in Finland, Sweden and Denmark that are not immigrant related?
It's a FACT that the US have to pay TWICE as much in healthcare then we in the Nordic countries have to.
I wont deny that we in Sweden have problem with immigration as well.
But your links to Finland's problems are ridiculous. They doesn't even mention immigrants as a cause!
Government Sipilä resigned - "you need to know this"
https://www.hbl.fi/artikel/statsminister-juha-sipila-ber-om-regeringens-avgang/
I remember in 50's and the 60's when Sweden was "invaded by hoards of criminal immigrants" from Finland.
Where are they now?
I remember in 90's when Sweden was "invaded by hoards of criminal immigrants" from the Balkan states.
Where are they now?
I remember the 90's very well when Finland was asked how many refugees they would take from the Balkan states when Sweden took several thousands.
SEVEN they said:) Hyvä Soumi:)
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Message 2002547 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 14:25:55 UTC - in response to Message 2002467.  
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[quote]The US has a larger population than most countries, and although a figure over a million/year might look large, in percentage terms in relation to the US total population, it is much smaller than your norther neighbour, and about the same percentage as the UK. And compared to the UK the US has a lot more room for them as the population density of the UK is over 700/mile² and the US is lower than 90/mile².
Ah. The density problem:)
Yes Nigel Farage's problem when he couldn't turn up to a meeting because of traffic jamming .
Leader says late arrival at Port Talbot event because ‘population is going through roof’ and ‘M4 not as navigable as it used to be’
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/07/nigel-farage-blames-immigration-m4-traffic-ukip-reception
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Message 2002548 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 14:31:50 UTC

tRump, willing to damage the security of the USA for his personal vanity
The Mail on Sunday reports that Sir Kim wrote to Mr Johnson informing him Republican President Trump appeared to be abandoning the nuclear deal for "personality reasons" - because the pact had been agreed by his Democrat predecessor, Barack Obama.
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Message 2002553 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 15:24:10 UTC

I wonder who the first immigrants to the US was...
Oh:)
Immigrant Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlNhD0oS5pk
Ah-ah, ah!
Ah-ah, ah!
We come from the land of the ice and snow
From the midnight sun, where the hot springs flow
The hammer of the gods
W'ell drive our ships to new lands
To fight the horde, and sing and cry
Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar
Our only goal will be the western shore
Ah-ah, ah!
Ah-ah, ah!
We come from the land of the ice and snow
From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow
How soft your fields so green
Can whisper tales of gore
Of how we calmed the tides of war
We are your overlords
On we sweep with threshing oar
Our only goal will be the western shore
So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
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Next question is of course, why will Trump determine the future of Venezuela.
Could it be because Venezuela is a an oil producing country?
The Monroe Doctrine?
You mean the right that the United States has the right to intervene as "international police power" if states in the Caribbean and Central America appear "uncivilized"?
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Message 2002586 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 19:58:14 UTC

You dA MAN SUPERTRUMP!!!!! You dA MAN.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-targets-four-freshman-house-members-pelosi-in-sunady-tweet-storm

I DON'T CARE Only One is BORN OVER THERE.

POINT MADE!!!!!

GO BACK TO YOUR ANCESTRAL HOMEs and FIX 'EM, then COME BACK and FIX U S of A!!!!! PROVE YOUR MASTERY THERE

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!

RUBEWorld Says: FIX ME!!!!! WEEEEE dA WEEEEE PEOPLEs are BROKEN!!!!! BAHWAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa! HELP US PLEASE LADies.

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Message 2002587 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 20:06:43 UTC

Except for the native peoples everyone in the USA is an immigrant and comes from immigrant families.

It was what made America great, the diversity.

Now Donald Trump has finally said what he means, if you are not white then leave.

Wonder why it took him so long.
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Message 2002590 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 20:25:09 UTC - in response to Message 2002587.  
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Except for the native peoples everyone in the USA is an immigrant and comes from immigrant families.


Even the "native" peoples of the Americas are immigrants, albeit from far longer ago and into a land uninhabited by any other humans. The only humans on earth who have any claim to be non-immigrants are North Africans, where the oldest H. sapiens fossils have been discovered. Everyone else is an descendant of immigrants to some degree.
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Message 2002591 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 20:28:05 UTC - in response to Message 2002586.  

Aha! It's the " “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world" as the Genius says, that is the US worst problem:) LOL:)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
Sigh...
But does not Trump having a hate speech, both racial and gender, at Twitter, right now?
Jeeez...
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Aha! It's the " “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world" as the Genius says, that is the US worst problem:) LOL:)
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
Sigh...
But does not Trump having a hate speech, both racial and gender, at Twitter, right now?
Jeeez...


If Donny wants us to go back to our original countries, guess over 7 billion people will be flooding eastern and southern Africa. Perhaps Ethiopia? Maybe this is his way of getting the Evangelicals to help in more archaeological digs? It'd be hilarious for some member of the NIFB "church" discovering the next Lucy.
Make "Pastor" Steven Anderson dig again.
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Message 2002598 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 21:18:24 UTC - in response to Message 2002594.  

OMG. Pastor Steven Anderson sounds very Swedish to me:)
Actually he has been to our country and about to come here again soon.
Add some spooky music to this https://www.varldenidag.se/nyheter/okand-hatpredikant-kan-vara-pa-vag-till-sverige/repscC!ubEG1ph0svD7PMRX13zJAA/
OK. A bit off topic since Trump is not religious at all:)
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OMG. Pastor Steven Anderson sounds very Swedish to me:)
Actually he has been to our country and about to come here again soon.
Add some spooky music to this https://www.varldenidag.se/nyheter/okand-hatpredikant-kan-vara-pa-vag-till-sverige/repscC!ubEG1ph0svD7PMRX13zJAA/
OK. A bit off topic since Trump is not religious at all:)


With a last name of Anderson, some Nordic background is perhaps likely?
And, while I'm free-associating and being sarcastic, this is not exactly off-topic. It addresses what you, and Mr. Kevvy immediately prior, discussed. (I also typed it elsewhere, a little earlier in the day, before seeing what you & Mr. Kevvy had written.)
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Message 2002611 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 22:25:36 UTC

IfN SUPERTrump is a DICTATOR HARMING PEOPLE of COLOR, then WHERE IS dA UNITED NATIONs?????

OH Dats Right, THEY ALLOW DEATH & DESTRUCTION EVERYWHERE and DO NOTHING.

RWANDA; CHAD; SUDAN; CONGO; EGYPT; LIBYA; IRAQ; AFGHANASTAN; SYRIA; SOMOLIA; YEMEN; SAUDI ARABIA; IRAN; INDONESIA; SOUTH AFRICA; etc etc etc, and ON and ON and ON and ON and ON. GOT COLOR - NO HELP from UNITED NATIONs. They Be TOO BUSY Havin' LUNCH at Local NYC 5-Star EATERY.

HEY UNITED NATIONs: SUPERTrump Says: GET SOME. ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!

RUBEWorld. SO RIGHT 'bout EVERYTHANG. EVERYTIME.

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Message 2002612 - Posted: 14 Jul 2019, 22:31:24 UTC - in response to Message 2002587.  

Except for the native peoples everyone in the USA is an immigrant and comes from immigrant families.

It was what made America great, the diversity.

Now Donald Trump has finally said what he means, if you are not white then leave.

Wonder why it took him so long.

Anoterh DixieCRAT just like tRump
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