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Message 1968738 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 1:57:16 UTC - in response to Message 1968735.  
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By Western Europe I assume you mean NATO allies.
But we others?
And with Trump at the helm...
Does those NATO countries that pay less than 2% live under the security of daddy's roof?

"Trump is our daddy." Love it:) What could possibly go wrong!
In Russia he is now called Дональд Фредович Трамп, Donald "Fredovych" Trump.
Fredovych means son of Fred, but of course also hinting at the disloyal Fredo Corleone who disappointed “the Godfather.”
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Message 1968751 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 3:23:55 UTC

Hey, Planet Yawn.
Did you enjoy the news today?
Looks like Flynn pulled such a Luciano Pavarotti that he may have sung his way to no prison time.
AnD daT's deE NamE oH dat TUnE. LOL
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Message 1968754 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 3:36:02 UTC - in response to Message 1968747.  
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The American President can only state his/her wishes. Then Sign or Veto the budget passed by The Congress.
Yes. But the US Senate is still pro-Trump after the recent midterm election...
And Soviet Union collapsed because of it's very heavy burden to defend it and it's allies...
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Message 1968758 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 4:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 1968747.  

The American President can only state his/her wishes. Then Sign or Veto the budget passed by The Congress.

His wish is to shut the government down. He wants to blame his veto on the democrats, because they won't deficit spend! LOL! Rump the dyed in the wool lifelong democrat wants massive deficit spending, something Mr. Bankrupt is very familiar with. As they say if you don't know what to do, go with the familiar!
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Message 1968768 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 6:46:50 UTC
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Sigh... Trump the Genius from Karlstad again...
Donald Trump has retweeted a conservative commentator who says without any proof that "yellow vests" have sung "We want Trump" in the streets of Paris.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1070089365995642881
No, the "yellow vests" have not chanted "We want Trump" as suggested by the US president!
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/usa/presidentielle/donald-trump/non-les-gilets-jaunes-n-ont-pas-scande-nous-voulons-trump-comme-le-suggere-le-president-americain_3085407.html
It is highly likely that the claim stems from a video that Twitter users began spreading this past weekend. In the videos, protesters actually call "We want Trump", but not in French but in English. And the police have British uniforms.
The news agency AFP reports that the clip was recorded in England this summer, in a protest in support of extremist activist Tommy Robinson.

And there is currently no indication that Macron is changing his attitude to the Paris Agreement. Nor have such signals been sent from the government, or Macron's political movement La République en Marche, which has its own majority in the National Assembly.

Obelix says "Ils sont fous ces américains!".
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Message 1968774 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 7:38:45 UTC - in response to Message 1968768.  

It was this tweet that Trump the Genius from Karlstad retweeted!
https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1069811169010089984
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Message 1968781 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 10:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1968747.  

So all of the US Defense budget is spent on NATO, what fund is used for the remaining forces, such as those in the Pacific.
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Message 1968782 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 10:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 1968781.  
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Trump says "The United States was paying for anywhere from 70 to 90 percent of NATO, depending on the way you calculate."
By NATO’s count, total defense spending of all NATO members stood at about $957 billion in 2017. The United States’ share was about $686 billion. The percentage of U.S. spending is about 72 percent.
But there is a difference.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-misleads-us-defense-spending-nato-bud/
Gordon Adams, professor emeritus at American University’s School of International Service, said the president’s wording is "bizarre" given that the burden for defense is quite different for the United States and European nations.
"U.S. defense missions are global, not just European," he said, "while the allies spend solely for European defense."
Each of the 29 members contribute to those costs through an agreed cost-sharing formula based on the country’s gross domestic product. As the member with the largest GDP, the U.S. contributed 22 percent of NATO’s common funding. Not far behind is Germany with about 15 percent, then France and the United Kingdom with about 10 percent.
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Message 1968792 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 12:06:06 UTC - in response to Message 1968782.  

Trump says "The United States was paying for anywhere from 70 to 90 percent of NATO, depending on the way you calculate."
By NATO’s count, total defense spending of all NATO members stood at about $957 billion in 2017. The United States’ share was about $686 billion. The percentage of U.S. spending is about 72 percent.
But there is a difference.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-misleads-us-defense-spending-nato-bud/
Gordon Adams, professor emeritus at American University’s School of International Service, said the president’s wording is "bizarre" given that the burden for defense is quite different for the United States and European nations.
"U.S. defense missions are global, not just European," he said, "while the allies spend solely for European defense."
Each of the 29 members contribute to those costs through an agreed cost-sharing formula based on the country’s gross domestic product. As the member with the largest GDP, the U.S. contributed 22 percent of NATO’s common funding. Not far behind is Germany with about 15 percent, then France and the United Kingdom with about 10 percent.

In 2017 the US contribution to the NATO common fund was $550 million.

Other factors have to be taken into account for the US bases in Europe and Turkey as they are also used in support of US global military operations.

It must also be noted that some of the military spending by other NATO members is spent on other things. Examples being France and its Overseas Departments and the UK and its Dependencies and Territories.
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Message 1968804 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 13:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 1968792.  

It must also be noted that some of the military spending by other NATO members is spent on other things. Examples being France and its Overseas Departments and the UK and its Dependencies and Territories.
That's true.
But I wonder if Trump also taking account that partners to NATO like Sweden and Finland also contribute in NATO operations.
Sweden in Afghanistan, Libya and northern Mali for instance.
And Finland in Afghanistan and Kosovo .
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Message 1968814 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 14:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 1968811.  

The Political Culture and the Separation of Powers of the USA is very difficult for foreigners to understand.
Indeed. Why not keep it KISS, Keep It Stupid Simple like we do.
So that Trump and the majority of the US voters understand.
And we outsiders as well of course:)
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Message 1968816 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 14:58:35 UTC - in response to Message 1968813.  

Why they don't have that ability and the USA does. Is my question.
Perhaps your ally Saudi Arabia can help you instead.
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Message 1968819 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 15:24:39 UTC - in response to Message 1968817.  

Why foreigners don't understand a Country (Empire?) that has been in the Post WW2 era of decades the dominant economic and military power. Is the question.
Eh? Should we worry?
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Message 1968822 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 15:35:13 UTC - in response to Message 1968818.  

It has decided to depend upon the USA to protect Europe's interests.Yes... Depend upon the USA.
Oh dear. That sounds like taken from the Bible.
"It is so written that the US all mighty shall protect Europe and the meek shall inherent the earth"...
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Message 1968834 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 16:43:52 UTC - in response to Message 1968813.  

It is the Strait of Hormuz and the US is not the only country to have a base in Bahrain.
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Message 1968835 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 16:44:33 UTC - in response to Message 1968822.  

It has decided to depend upon the USA to protect Europe's interests.Yes... Depend upon the USA.
Oh dear. That sounds like taken from the Bible.
"It is so written that the US all mighty shall protect Europe and the meek shall inherent the earth"...

The GOPers a/k/a Bible Thumpers a/k/a believe in the conspiracy theory that there is a fairy in the sky REALLY do believe that stuff. Unfortunately they won't allow health care to provide treatment for their condition.
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Message 1968853 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 19:57:06 UTC - in response to Message 1968838.  

Yes, a base here and there. But..

Your post still doesn't address the reason(s) why no combination of Western European Country's have the capability of transporting their military and continually supplying their military in a successful defeat of the Iranian Military.
Crusader & Lionheart effectively proved that we can reinforce our forces without the assistance of the Yanks.
As for Iran, are you advocating that the West attack them without any declaration of war? Isn't Pearl Harbor still in living memory?
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Message 1968859 - Posted: 5 Dec 2018, 20:38:08 UTC

Constitutional rights & the 1st Amendment, how lovely. :-)

We're allowed to be irresponsible, the constitution says so
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