poor reading comprehension. He was fired. If he hadn't been fired, no case to bring. He was fired. (Clyde suddenly wants to add that he must stay fired so he can have reason to post)

OK lets stop the personal sniping, and remain on topic.

This thread is about President Donald Trump, NOT about petty squabbles between poster here, keep that to PM's if you must.

“Propaganda Machine"
Who would have thought it. Not the great Fox News where the President gets all his great knowledge from to rule the world US of A.

“Four decades ago, I took an oath as a newly commissioned officer,” wrote Peters on Tuesday to his Fox colleagues, in an email first obtained by BuzzFeed News. “That oath did not expire when I took off my uniform. Today, I feel that Fox is assaulting our constitutional order and rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers. Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed.”

He added: “When prime-time hosts — who have never served our country in any capacity — dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest attacks on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller — all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of ‘deep-state’ machinations — I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.”

I have watched FOX news along with the other 'usual suspects' and find them to be right of center but willing to listen to other POV. I have listened to Colonel Ralph Peters on uncountable occasions and subjects.

I quit listening to his sage advice when he began espousing the belief that the ONLY answer to DPRK is all out military assault, including the use of nukes to nullify the DPRK artillery. Talk about a 'one trick pony'. He now says the FOX position on the FIB, DOJ, DEPSTATE and the tainted waste of time and money being conducted to bring down a sitting President is propaganda.

I think his defense of the corrupt Deep State entrenched in government service may be partially shielding of former compatriots and maybe even self-serving.

As to Impeachment, it will NEVER happen unless a very hot smoking gun is uncovered. Despite MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars being spent on expensive leftist lawyers they have not turned up ANYTHING remotely resembling collusion with Russia to affect the US elections(which is the mandate he was given).

Rosenstein needs to bring in Mueller, ask him if he has ANYTHING proving collusion and if not demand the witch hunt be concluded. If he feels he DOES have something, all evidence and information collected should be immediately turned over to the appropriate bodies in Congress(the ONLY institution that can impeach), and let the case be laid before both bodies for action.

Either IMPEACH or GET OFF THE POT!

The People are SICK and TIRED of this BS which goes round in circles with no one being held accountable, spending time, money and effort on proving the 'other guys' are bad.

Meanwhile the DACA kids keep twisting in the wind while the Dims ignore the TWO DEALS offered by the President in exchange for border security.

Those priming this effort will rue the day this started if they ever regain the White House as it will be tit for tat unless that elected President is Mother Teresa.

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Yawn.

Sigh

Mueller is not specifically investigating collusion. He is tasked with looking to see if the Ruskies were involved with tampering with the election. Admittedly that is a wide brief and there are no real boundaries to what he can investigate if there are any indications of wrongdoing.
If Trump feels that Mueller is looking only at collusion, then it is probably because Trump has a guilty conscience.

Don't forget the Watergate investigation took over two years, so Muellers investigation hasn't run that long.

But it doesn't matter if this investigation is stopped, Next year with the Dems in charge of Congress and the Senate, there is going to be investigation upon investigation.
And even then there might not be any impeachment. It might be in the Dems favour to have a completely hobbled resident of the White House in 2020.

I think his defense of the corrupt Deep State entrenched in government service may be partially shielding of former compatriots and maybe even self-serving.

The "Deep State" is a fabrication of Cambridge Analytica designed to shape the thinking of people like you.

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some people are absolutely convinced the earth is flat.

Trump won't be assassinated, the personal security is too tight. He won't resign, his ego is too big. He is in good health as far as we know. The only answer is impeachment. But even then, he'll be pardoned by the next President.

Uhh... NO.

US Constitution, Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:

The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the principal officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

The reason Ford was able to pardon Nixon was that Nixon had not yet been impeached. In fact, the impeachment proceedings had not yet been started on him.

This is why it is vital to go ahead and start impeachment process in the US House against Trump ASAP... Before Trump figures this out. Else he may pull a Nixon and resign then get pardoned by Pence.

Mueller NEEDS to wrap things up NOW, and submit his findings to Deputy (Acting in this case) Attorney General Rosenstein. So Rosenstein can make the report to Congress...

Even tricky Dicky got away with it. "There will be no whitewash at the White House". What a laugh that was.

Nixon was correct... in the end....

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40 government officials indicted or jailed

H.R. Haldeman and John Erlichman (White House staff), resigned 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed

John Dean (White House legal counsel), sacked 30 April 1973, subsequently jailed

John Mitchell, Attorney-General and Chairman of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), jailed

Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy (ex-White House staff), planned the Watergate break-in, both jailed

Charles Colson, special counsel to the President, jailed

James McCord (Security Director of CREEP), jailed

Oh... And President Nixon resigns in disgrace...
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I would NOT call that a whitewash....

But it serves America right for having the election rules that they do for Presidential elections. This Electoral College seems answerable to none, and by what right were they able to overturn the peoples popular vote. Surely that is undemocratic?

There IS NO national popular vote for President (or any other Federal office). Never has been, And hopefully never will be.

Undemocratic? Well, that depends on exactly what you mean by democratic...

If you mean 'pure democracy', that is bad. Mob Rule. A pure democracy will not effectively work in a group larger than a few people. With large groups it will degenerate rapidly into either a tyranny of the minority, or a tyranny of the majority.

If you mean 'representative democracy', that is not as bad. We have a representative democracy, we call it a republic'.

Our form of government is properly termed a Constitutional Federal Republic (the Federal Government) of Constitutional Republics (the State Governments).

You claim that the 'electoral college' is undemocratic. I totally disagree.

Just what IS the 'electoral college' you might ask.

Our Federal Constitution left choosing the President (head of the executive branch of the Federal Government) to the State Governments. The Federal Constitution does not even require the States to hold a popular election within themselves. All do now, but some have not always done so.

What then happens on 'Election Day' every four years. The Voters are NOT voting directly for President/Vice-President. They are voting for a slate of Electors pledged to vote for a certain candidate in the electoral college. Well, that is 'representative democracy'.

The electoral college is not in continuous existence. Every Presidential election, the States specify the electors they have chosen, the electors cast their votes, and if one candidate gets a majority of the elector's votes, that candidate is the winner. The electoral college then reports the result to the appropriate officials, then the electoral college ceases to exist.

The electoral college gets one vote. If no candidate gets a majority, the Presidential election goes to the US House of Representatives for a decision. The Vice-Presidential election goes to the US Senate for Decision. Both the House and Senate are elected by the People. Representative Democracy.

If a State decides not to hold Presidential elections among their citizens (and they are not required to do so by the Federal Constitution) members of the State Legislature for that State can then directly appoint that State's electors. But again, the members of State Legislatures are directly elected by the people of that State, so again... Representative Democracy.

You know, the situation here is not that different from that in the UK. You all do not directly elect your Prime Minister. Each party elects its leader. You all elect your Member of Parliament. The leader of the party that gets the majority of seats in Parliament is the PM. Did I get it wrong? Representative Democracy.

The truth is that Trump is the most unpopular President in the history of the USA. He got in by promising a vote to the poor disadvantaged blacks, telling them your voice will be heard. They believed him. When they find out nothing has changed the crap will hit the fan. Race riots coupled with student unrest over guns, might be enough to bring him down.

'Unpopular'... ROFL. Those opinion polls don't exactly matter much. The only poll that DOES matter is the Election. Those opinion polls are just that... opinion. They are subjective, not objective. That said, Trumps 'job approval rating poll' @ Gallup has been going up lately.

On 10/29/2017, it was 35% approve. on 3/18/2018 it was 40% approve. Not that that really means anything.

If you want to talk popularity of a President...

In the 1972 presidential election, of the 538 electoral college votes:
The Republican Richard Nixon got 520.
The Democrat George McGovern got 17.
And the Libertarian John Hospers got 1.

Sorry, but popular does not equate to good, and good does not equate to popular.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

MK, POTUS can't expunge a "conviction" of impeachment with a pardon. But POTUS can expunge any and all federal criminal offenses of any person, even a impeached President. Impeachment is not criminal, it is political.

Ford pardoned Nixon because once Nixon was out of office he decided there was no reason to jail him.

MK, POTUS can't expunge a "conviction" of impeachment with a pardon. But POTUS can expunge any and all federal criminal offenses of any person, even a impeached President. Impeachment is not criminal, it is political.

Ford pardoned Nixon because once Nixon was out of office he decided there was no reason to jail him.

We have a difference of opinion here... no big deal. But I still want the impeachment proceeding against Trump to begin ASAP.

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#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

We need your help, Trump:)
https://youtu.be/e1Ua12-Ahsc

This is not the first time you have gone on about the electoral college and that the US is a Republic.

But don't you think that it is a bit lopsided. An inhabitant of Wyoming has one and a half times more influence on who is president than you do. In Gary's case it is over three and a half times.

A case of the tail wagging the dog, me thinks.

The reasoning that small states should get more say/vote so that they are not overpowered by the large states is already taken care of in the Senate with its two Senators/state. Why does it need doing a second time in the electoral college.

The 'United' States of America is constitutionally a Union of States. Think of the United States of Europe... Oops, I meant the European Union on steroids.
Because most foreigners do not understand this and their posts continually reflect their non understanding. It has to be repeated.

I think most people doesn't know what a federal state is.
Not even Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation

Good advice to heed
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=10434&postid=63457

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For good and bad. We are not as most of the world understands.

Very true. You're all gun loving (insert appropriate word here).

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=10434&postid=63457

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For good and bad. We are not as most of the world understands.

That's not true Clyde.
We in Europe knows a lot of the USA.
Heck, almost everyone have some relative living in the US.
And then news media is covering all what is happening in the US.
An example. The former FBI chief Comey hearing was broadcasted here live on state TV SVT.
The US election gather more people than our elections.
And we have even CNN and FOX on live TV here.

And the US?
How much do you cover European news?