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Message 1914305 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 23:54:51 UTC

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Message 1914298 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 22:23:50 UTC - in response to Message 1914292.  
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So sorry to inform of your ignorance, bills pass the Senate with 51 votes.

Trump says "For those asking, the Republicans only have 51 votes in the Senate, and they need 60".
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/954680914998648833

Interesting.
It appears that the 60 votes needed. Was only if the Democrats threatened a Filibuster. But since they didn't.
Both Trump and I are mistaken. But I don't matter :) - Trump does :(

I wonder if Trump have read this :)
https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/the-legislative-process
Again, a simple majority (51 of 100) passes the bill.

tRump won't read, or be educated. He likes ignorance, because it is bliss. Just like his gymnasty with the porn star.
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Message 1914292 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 22:02:50 UTC - in response to Message 1914284.  
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So sorry to inform of your ignorance, bills pass the Senate with 51 votes.

Trump says "For those asking, the Republicans only have 51 votes in the Senate, and they need 60".
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/954680914998648833

Interesting.
It appears that the 60 votes needed. Was only if the Democrats threatened a Filibuster. But since they didn't.
Both Trump and I are mistaken. But I don't matter :) - Trump does :(

I wonder if Trump have read this :)
https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/the-legislative-process
Again, a simple majority (51 of 100) passes the bill.
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Message 1914284 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 21:12:47 UTC - in response to Message 1914270.  
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So sorry to inform of your ignorance, bills pass the Senate with 51 votes.

Trump says "For those asking, the Republicans only have 51 votes in the Senate, and they need 60".
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/954680914998648833

Interesting.

It appears that the 60 votes needed. Was only if the Democrats threatened a Filibuster. But since they didn't.

Both Trump and I are mistaken. But I don't matter :) - Trump does :(
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Message 1914282 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 21:06:05 UTC
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In countries with two elections to the presidential election (like France), the second round are between the two candidates that got the highest number of votes in the first.

In the USA, if no Presidential candidate obtains the required State's Electoral Vote. There is no new national election.

According to the 12th Amendment to the USA's Constitution. The States, which are represented i the House of Representatives. Must choose between the three highest vote receivers in the Electoral College .

Then, The States having one vote apiece. Chooses the next President.
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Message 1914270 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 20:13:37 UTC - in response to Message 1914263.  

So sorry to inform of your ignorance, bills pass the Senate with 51 votes.

Trump says "For those asking, the Republicans only have 51 votes in the Senate, and they need 60".
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/954680914998648833
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Message 1914264 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 19:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 1914262.  

it's the 'Other' Party's fault. So all the People have to do is determine just who the members of this 'Other' Party are and remove them from power in the next election..............think about it.
As long as there is other it will be the same, so perhaps time to get rid of the failed two party system and go European with proportional representation and dump winner take all.

Th European way is very much like the American way.
Two-party systems are a type of party system where two parties dominate the political scene. The countries most commonly associated with two-party systems are the United Kingdom and the United States , but the phenomenon also occurs in many other parts of the world. The system has existed since ancient times .
Generally, a two-party system arises when the country's constitution and voting system (see Majoritarian voting systems ) favors larger parties, so that small parties find it hard to become viable. In many countries, including Sweden , there is a block system similar to the two-party system, because the voter must primarily take a stand for one of two political blocks.
In countries with two elections to the presidential election (like France), the second round are between the two candidates that got the highest number of votes in the first.
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Message 1914263 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 19:21:20 UTC - in response to Message 1914213.  
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Not much chance of the bill passing when 4 Republican Senators voted against it.

Republicans are going to have to do better than this, if they want to be still in control next year.

Inconvenient Fact:

The Senate needs 60 votes and there are only 51 Republicans.

So sorry to inform of your ignorance, bills pass the Senate with 51 votes.

Some procedural motions and veto overrides require super majorities.

As a former teacher you really should know how the government works.


The truth of the matter is Mitch McConnel personally shut the government down. Instead of asking for a procedural vote on the bill allowing it to be voted upon, which would have passed, he went for a higher bar and asked for debate to be cut off.
Of course he knew 4 Republican senators would have voted no on the bill but by going for a debate cutoff he attempts to deflect blame. People who aren't in right wingnut totalitarian echo chambers know who is guilty. Mitch McConnel, tRump and the Republicans.
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Message 1914262 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 19:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 1914255.  

it's the 'Other' Party's fault. So all the People have to do is determine just who the members of this 'Other' Party are and remove them from power in the next election..............think about it.
As long as there is other it will be the same, so perhaps time to get rid of the failed two party system and go European with proportional representation and dump winner take all.
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Message 1914259 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 18:37:48 UTC

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Message 1914255 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 18:27:28 UTC

Put your hair out Jan, there's no 'Manchurian Candidate' in the White House..........unbelievable what can be stirred up from a pile of manure i.e. "Fire and Fury"(should be renamed "farts and foolishness").

That's the kind of air biscuit people make up for a story. Same as asking very stupid questions and not believing the answers from the same Doctor that examined the prior President(who was an ADMITTED heavy smoker). Where were the questions about his health?

Actually there is something to be learned and something both the Dims and Repugnants agree upon, it's the 'Other' Party's fault. So all the People have to do is determine just who the members of this 'Other' Party are and remove them from power in the next election..............think about it.

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Message 1914250 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 17:43:31 UTC - in response to Message 1914247.  
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I didn't know that the US, Russia and China was at war with each other.

Their respective oligarch's are.

Strange war.
There are many oligarchs from both Russia and China that moves to the US.

Perfectly natural moves. They like to cluster together and preferably where the local government is friendly and imposes low taxes so that their wealth increases by the largest amount possible each day.
Also cuts down the inbreeding, as witnessed by the European Royal families in the last few centuries.
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Message 1914247 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 17:33:51 UTC - in response to Message 1914244.  

I didn't know that the US, Russia and China was at war with each other.

Their respective oligarch's are.

Strange war.
There are many oligarchs from both Russia and China that moves to the US.
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Message 1914244 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 17:12:54 UTC - in response to Message 1914242.  

I didn't know that the US, Russia and China was at war with each other.

Their respective oligarch's are.
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Message 1914242 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 17:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 1914238.  
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Well meetings where officials from Sweden meets officials from foreign states have to approved by the Foreign Office and they are always recorded in a protocol accessible to the public.
We don't have such secret meetings that the US seems to have.
We call it transparency.
https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016

When Empires, who control large regions of the world with their military and economic strength, When they are in a life and death struggle to expand or secure what they already control. Which is happening today and has always happened throughout our history...

I didn't know that the US, Russia and China was at war with each other.

Btw
#Russia's state TV: Foreign Ministry spokes, Maria Zakharova accuses the U.S. of interfering in Russian elections by "sponsoring" opposition figures, threatens to release the evidence in retaliation for @BuzzFeedNews financial disclosures re: banking transactions of RF diplos.
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Message 1914238 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 16:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1914235.  
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Well meetings where officials from Sweden meets officials from foreign states have to approved by the Foreign Office and they are always recorded in a protocol accessible to the public.
We don't have such secret meetings that the US seems to have.
We call it transparency.
https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016

When Empires, who control large regions of the world with their military and economic strength. When they are in a life and death struggle to expand or secure what they already control. Which is happening today and has always happened throughout our history...
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Message 1914235 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 16:13:15 UTC - in response to Message 1914227.  

Well meetings where officials from Sweden meets officials from foreign states have to approved by the Foreign Office and they are always recorded in a protocol accessible to the public.
We don't have such secret meetings that the US seems to have.
We call it transparency.
https://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016
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Message 1914232 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 16:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 1914222.  
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Where is the compromise from BOTH Sides?

With those 4 moderate Republicans opposing the bill, to me, it says the bill was pitched too far to the right. So the logical conclusion is that the right failed to compromise.

To this non believer of one corrupt political party over the other corrupt political party. Both sides in this discussion are confirming everything I have posted.

Unfortunately, neither the Pro Republican nor Pro Democrat side can see, nor will be able to see beyond their narrow and partisan point of view.
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Message 1914227 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 15:41:56 UTC - in response to Message 1914221.  
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Awful lot of contacts the Trump family have with both Russia and China officials.
The warning bells at CIA should be ringing by now.

Jared Kushner Is China’s Trump Card
How Jared Kushner, despite his inexperience in diplomacy and his lack of security clearance, became China's primary point of contact.
"It was a dream come true. They couldn't believe he was so compliant."
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/29/jared-kushner-is-chinas-trump-card

Re: International Trade, Capitalist/Governmental Meetings and Agreements, et al, with the Russian/Chinese Capitalists and Government.

Of course they have 'contacts'. As all, which includes German, Swedish, UK, et al, private and governmental interests do.

Unless we wish to declare Russia and China an 'Enemy of the West' and stop all meetings, agreements, private and governmental Trade Agreements, etc.

As with Obama's and Hillary's Russian Re-Set. What is the problem?
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Message 1914222 - Posted: 20 Jan 2018, 15:26:10 UTC - in response to Message 1914213.  

Where is the compromise from BOTH Sides?

With those 4 moderate Republicans opposing the bill, to me, it says the bill was pitched too far to the right. So the logical conclusion is that the right failed to compromise.
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