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Message 1910961 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 22:49:03 UTC - in response to Message 1910956.  

From what I've gathered, AP (at least, any results being added to the DB('s)) was over anyway, and the Tasks sent out was just... make-work.
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Message 1910962 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 22:49:37 UTC - in response to Message 1910956.  

No more 'Arecibo' also means an end to AP tasks, correct?

So is that bit of analysis over? Nothing now but MBV8?


. . Look on the bright side ... no more Arecibo VLAR tasks :)

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Message 1910967 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 22:52:18 UTC - in response to Message 1910960.  

No more 'Arecibo' also means an end to AP tasks, correct?

So is that bit of analysis over? Nothing now but MBV8?

Until/unless a APv8 application comes out, or new data from Arecibo arrives.


Maybe AP from Parkes.


. . Parkes data will be a Blc format too I suspect.

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Message 1910970 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 22:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 1910945.  

Don't know. That post could be interpreted a couple of ways. No more reprocessing of old tapes or more likely no new data from Arecibo since it got damaged and status is questionable.
Or most likely, both together. Nothing left to reprocess AND no new tapes in sight.
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Message 1910997 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 23:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 1910970.  

Don't know. That post could be interpreted a couple of ways. No more reprocessing of old tapes or more likely no new data from Arecibo since it got damaged and status is questionable.
Or most likely, both together. Nothing left to reprocess AND no new tapes in sight.


. . Bummer dude!

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Message 1911013 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 23:55:44 UTC - in response to Message 1910997.  

I have no illogical attachment to tasks from Arecibo. It served its purpose in the beginning. Time to move on. It's not as if there is any lack of work coming from Breakthrough Listen and soon Parkes.

Whether the volunteer developers ever attempt to make a AP V8 application for new data is the only interesting question I have. Searching for broadband signals is much harder than listening for narrow band signals. Takes more processing power. But as we know, processing power in the last decade has improved exponentially.
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Message 1911059 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 3:25:43 UTC

I'm getting "transient HTTP errors" when trying to download sometimes. Seems new to me, don't recall seeing them before...

Anyone else getting them?

Any idea what causes them?
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Message 1911064 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 4:14:20 UTC

Yes, I get them all the time when the servers are busy after an outage. Had plenty today until the caches got refilled.
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Message 1911065 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 4:16:35 UTC - in response to Message 1911059.  
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I'm getting "transient HTTP errors" when trying to download sometimes. Seems new to me, don't recall seeing them before...

Anyone else getting them?

No problems here, but I've got an entry in my Hosts file to the good download server.


WooHoo!.
I just picked up my first Arecibo resend (since we ran out of Arecibo data).
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Message 1911069 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 4:22:04 UTC

Ever since the servers came back online there's been no problems here at all except for picking up some ghosts on my 2500K rig.

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Message 1911071 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 4:53:08 UTC - in response to Message 1911069.  

I had issues on all computers with stalled downloads because the download server couldn't be found or was slow in replying. I was still getting stalled downloads on two computers several hours later and I couldn't figure out why until I looked at my Hosts file. I thought I had un-commented the download servers but apparently the save never took because on the Windows 10 computer, the Hosts file is protected excepted from an admin account. Edited with an admin account to expose the Seti servers and all my stalled downloads magicically cleared up. The other computer I guess I had missed when I was going round the farm editing the Hosts file.

Posted a reply to Richard about what download server was working when he asked if anyone else was having issues. Made it seem he was thinking of advising Eric there was a problem.
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Message 1911097 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 9:46:55 UTC - in response to Message 1911071.  

Yes, and it matched my observations, continuing this morning: .119 georgem is working well, .127 vader is uncooperative.
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Message 1911104 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 11:31:53 UTC

Woke up this morning to a nearly empty cache, due to a handful of stalled downloads.
I aborted those, and restartet Boinc...everything cleared up and my cache filled up nicely.
Now...getting "transient HTTP-error" and more stalled downloads.
All the servers are uncommented in my hosts file (208.68.240.118, .119 and .126)
Database status shows all the DL servers as Running, and UL works fine...any idea what could be going on ?


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Message 1911105 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 12:00:41 UTC - in response to Message 1911104.  

Your router is playing up? Your ISP is playing up? Your interconnect to Berkeley is playing up? Anything is possible - it's a long chain of interconnected devices, all of which have to work.

My first action would be to check the state of my in-house router - my ISP has set it to reset the line once a week, and it always seems to to happen at the most awkward moment. But it reconnects automatically after a couple of minutes.

Then, I'd enable <http_debug> logging and retry a couple of transfers - see what the actual reason for those transient HTTP-errors might be. Once you know what the errors are, you can start to plan ahead - the paths diverge there.
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Message 1911109 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 12:29:55 UTC - in response to Message 1911105.  

Your router is playing up? Your ISP is playing up? Your interconnect to Berkeley is playing up? Anything is possible - it's a long chain of interconnected devices, all of which have to work.

My first action would be to check the state of my in-house router - my ISP has set it to reset the line once a week, and it always seems to to happen at the most awkward moment. But it reconnects automatically after a couple of minutes.

Then, I'd enable <http_debug> logging and retry a couple of transfers - see what the actual reason for those transient HTTP-errors might be. Once you know what the errors are, you can start to plan ahead - the paths diverge there.

My router is fine... and it lasted too long to be an IP-renewal hiccup. Plus, I checked all those obvious reasons.
But wouldnt' you know it...after posting about it here, the problem magically disappeared... :-)
Tnx anyway !
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Message 1911111 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 13:14:46 UTC

Tried the <http_debug> option, but I have no idea what it means...

06/01/2018 14:10:50 | SETI@home | [http] HTTP_OP::init_get(): http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/38d/blc05_2bit_guppi_57976_06552_HIP74702_0024.16930.0.22.45.6.vlar
06/01/2018 14:10:50 | SETI@home | [http] HTTP_OP::libcurl_exec(): ca-bundle 'E:\Program Files\BOINC\ca-bundle.crt'
06/01/2018 14:10:50 | SETI@home | [http] HTTP_OP::libcurl_exec(): ca-bundle set
06/01/2018 14:10:50 | SETI@home | Started download of blc05_2bit_guppi_57976_06552_HIP74702_0024.16930.0.22.45.6.vlar
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Info: Connection 65 seems to be dead!
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Info: Closing connection 65
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Info: Trying 208.68.240.119...
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Info: Connected to boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu (208.68.240.119) port 80 (#67)
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: GET /sah/download_fanout/38d/blc05_2bit_guppi_57976_06552_HIP74702_0024.16930.0.22.45.6.vlar HTTP/1.1
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: Host: boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: User-Agent: BOINC client (windows_x86_64 7.8.3)
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: Accept: */*
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: Accept-Language: en_GB
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server:
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server:
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Sent header to server: 5
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: HTTP/1.1 502 Server Hangup
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:10:49 GMT
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Connection: keep-alive
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Cache-Control: no-store
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Content-Type: text/html
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Content-Language: en
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Content-Length: 294
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server:
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <HTML>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <HEAD>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <TITLE>Server Connection Closed</TITLE>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: </HEAD>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <BODY BGCOLOR="white" FGCOLOR="black">
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <H1>Server Connection Closed</H1>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <HR>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <FONT FACE="Helvetica,Arial"><B>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: Description: The server requested closed the connection before
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: the transaction was completed.
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: </B></FONT>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: <HR>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Received header from server: </BODY>
06/01/2018 14:10:51 | SETI@home | [http] [ID#82] Info: Connection #67 to host boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu left intact
06/01/2018 14:10:52 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of blc05_2bit_guppi_57976_06552_HIP74702_0024.16930.0.22.45.6.vlar: transient HTTP error
06/01/2018 14:10:52 | SETI@home | Backing off 00:19:35 on download of blc05_2bit_guppi_57976_06552_HIP74702_0024.16930.0.22.45.6.vlar
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Message 1911113 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 13:21:39 UTC

Restarting the router and clearing the DNS cache (Windows: ipconfig /flushdns) solved my issue after manually retrying the download.
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Message 1911114 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 13:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 1911113.  

Restarting the router and clearing the DNS cache (Windows: ipconfig /flushdns) solved my issue after manually retrying the download.

That didn't help here.

But after another download try it worked, seems download sometimes work, sometimes not.
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Message 1911115 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 13:30:23 UTC

Yes got 9 new tasks, 5 downloaded OK, 4 got transient HTTP error.
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Message 1911120 - Posted: 6 Jan 2018, 14:01:50 UTC

Still having issues with downloads. I have been aborting the stuck downloads, but is it possible to hard code the IP address for the good download server on my Windows 10 machine?
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