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Message 1909493 - Posted: 29 Dec 2017, 21:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 1909489.  

You are trying to go to Mike's old address. Try http://mikesworld.eu/download.html instead.

Alternate universe it would seem.

Then somebody needs to update the links in the Optimised Applications and Other Binaries - NEW: required for v8: Windows Installer v0.44

You must of missed this thread while playing with your junk. ;-)

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Message 1909495 - Posted: 29 Dec 2017, 21:26:43 UTC
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I have copied the post from Mikes thread into the "Optimised Applications and Other Binaries - NEW: required for v8: Windows Installer v0.44" thread

So hopefully people will see it now.

PS Anyone could have done that.
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Message 1909511 - Posted: 29 Dec 2017, 23:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 1909476.  

Mikeworld is for sale, I downloaded the new 0.45b6 Lunatics file from arkayn's site instead.

Never paid anything there. Anyway DL from Arkayn site is fine too.

I went there, the domain is for sale at Mikeworld, there are no files there, unless the link is bad and I wound up in an alternet universe, so I dled from Arkayn after learning that.

I have not seen the "you don't have a valid version of V8" show since 10:34am, it's now 10:57am, so I think the problem is resolved, I deleted the old Lunatics 0.45b6 zip file from 2016 too.


All three sites have the newest installer now, Mikes, Lunatics and my site.

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Message 1909514 - Posted: 29 Dec 2017, 23:46:51 UTC - in response to Message 1909511.  

All three sites have the newest installer now, Mikes, Lunatics and my site.

Looks like you'll need to do a couple of Seti WUs, or you won't be able to start the next panic mode thread.

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Message 1909515 - Posted: 29 Dec 2017, 23:48:13 UTC

The Scheduler is back to randomly allocating work, although my cache isn't running down too much before it decides to give out some work at the moment.
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Message 1909547 - Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 6:33:41 UTC

Wanted: Hammer No. 1 Mk 8, qty 1, for application to servers. Alternatively, Boot, Working, Size 9, qty 1, for the same application.
Don't take life too seriously, as you'll never come out of it alive!
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Message 1909611 - Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 17:11:53 UTC

Seems to be particularly Bad at the moment. All three Linux machines are being refused work, something about 'Project has no tasks available' even though RTS is hovering around 600k. I suspect that is a Red Herring and only appears due to asking for AP work. If you ask for just MB work, as with my Mac, the Server can't come up with a reason for Not sending work and merely says, No Tasks Sent. Fortunately, the Mac is still being sent work suggesting prejudice, but alas, even Windows machines are denied work on occasion. Strange how it always seems to start with the Linux machines though. One machine is right at 100 tasks in the red, will it recover, or will the Server run it out of work?
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Message 1909671 - Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 21:58:06 UTC - in response to Message 1909547.  

Wanted: Hammer No. 1 Mk 8, qty 1, for application to servers. Alternatively, Boot, Working, Size 9, qty 1, for the same application.

How's this Iona? Oh and a belated Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to you, or as happy as circumstances permit at least.
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Message 1909702 - Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 23:46:29 UTC

The Server has decided to continue to Strangle 2 of my Linux machines. The third machine recovered to a full cache, for a while, and then continued to be sent less tasks than was being reported. The other two are getting very low on tasks and it appears the server would be content to run them out of GPU work. Both machines have 3 GPUs and should have around 330 tasks in the 1 day cache;
State: All (2474) · In progress (97) · Validation pending (1092)
State: All (1898) · In progress (98) · Validation pending (785)
Strange how the Server sends them about the same number of tasks instead of the number the Host is Requesting. What are the chances that after hours one is at 97 and the other 98?
I suppose I'm going to have to intervene or else watch the Server Starve my machines to death. Now down to 94 & 95.
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Message 1909704 - Posted: 30 Dec 2017, 23:54:31 UTC - in response to Message 1909702.  
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The Server has decided to continue to Strangle 2 of my Linux machines.

It's not just Linux systems.
I've had to triple update my Win10 i7 several times this morning to keep the work coming.

Edit- even my Vista C2D has required a bump or 2.

Edit- and it's not surprising. Very little Arecibo work about, and no AP. When there is Arecibo & AP work available, then you can get MB without extra effort being needed.
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Message 1909716 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:07:10 UTC - in response to Message 1909704.  
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Edit- even my Vista C2D has required a bump or 2.

Make that several bumps.
Struggling to get work on either system.
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Message 1909719 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:10:08 UTC

Only the linux machine is massively down. It is down about 200 tasks. It is getting about 11 tasks per request on average for the past couple of hours. Nowhere near enough to replenish tasks after task retirement per request. Triple Update isn't doing much for it.
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Message 1909720 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:13:44 UTC
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My host get a lot of WU but all are Arecibo Vlars, maybe that is why your host did not get any new GPU work.
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Message 1909723 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 1909720.  

The two computers that got any tasks of any amount (36) were Arecibo shorties and BLC. Need a couple of hundred each machine. Could be a Arecibo VLAR storm be the cause again?
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Message 1909727 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 1909723.  

Nah, it's not a VLAR Storm. I have 3 computers that are down on CPU tasks too. Nothing is coming out the pipe ... or at least, not much.
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Message 1909730 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 1909727.  
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Yes, I have to agree. The pattern is nothing coming out of the servers. Down on cpu tasks all machines too. So, no handicap there on VLAR's. The fastest cpu machines, the Ryzens can't get enough cpu work either. Lots of no tasks to send messages.

[Edit] The Haveland graphs support that assessment. Number of tasks in progress is dropping over the last couple of hours.
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Message 1909731 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 1:57:25 UTC
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In Progress seems to be dropping. I suppose that means the Server is sending less tasks. I thought a VLAR Storm was alleged to be impossible with BLC tasks running on GPUs.



A couple machines just got topped off, another is still down by over 200 tasks.
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Message 1909733 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 2:04:54 UTC - in response to Message 1909731.  

I thought a VLAR Storm was alleged to be impossible with BLC tasks running on GPUs.

We had one for several hours last week (or was it the week before?)
But this isn't that. It's just the problem with the Scheduler- little or no AP or Arecibo WUs means not even GBT work will be allocated when it's requested.
When the Arecibo and/or AP work becomes available again, then we'll be able to get GBT WUs again.
It's been this way for 12 months.
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Message 1909737 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 2:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 1909733.  

My read of the way the GBT splitters act is they run fine until the server cache reaches 600k, then they shut off and don't restart (or just dribble a little) and the Arecibo splitters take over.

When the server does it's Expired/TimedOut task check, the GBT splitters restart. I always see a blast of resends on a least 1 computer just before the GBT tasks reappear. They run for approx 1/2 an hour and shut down again.

So until the server does it's check, it is possible to get stuck in a VLAR storm with no GBT being split.
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Message 1909742 - Posted: 31 Dec 2017, 3:20:49 UTC

I'm down to my last 2 gpu tasks on the Linux cruncher. Guess it's going to do Einstein for the rest of the evening.
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