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Message 1903852 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 13:28:32 UTC - in response to Message 1903849.  

Neither of my mac or my Win10 GUI look like that...My "tasks" are hidden under the project command option, you click that and a list of options appears....
Ah, more like this?



We call that the 'simple view': my previous image was the 'advanced view', which you can select from the View menu at the top left. Have a poke around and see what you think - you can always switch back again.

In the meantime, I'll poke around the simple view myself and see if I can come up with any ideas. The trouble will be persuading the developers to change that clean, consistent list: Suspend/Resume and Allow/No new tasks are toggles, but the others are single-click actions.
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Message 1903857 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 13:41:42 UTC - in response to Message 1903847.  
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Hi Stephen...

I apologise if people are upset with me, but whilst there is a pause in the action, now is the time to sort through issues, there is no way to contact the developers directly, I wish I could skype call them, a free call, maybe SETI has a slow dial up modem that does not allow this...

The point is, the use of toggles is not a good idea, unless the toggle has a finite direct effect on the screen, toggle and you change and can see the change, then the relationship is established, now this is a ball of twine and is a mess...Maybe it has always been that way, and you have come to accept it...It is not right and needs to be changed.

Developers should not be allowed within 5000 miles of a GUI design, the developers are clueless about this and I look forward to reading why they think this GUI is effective, it is not, there is almost nothing about the GUI in simple view that is useful...It is a mess, and sorry they made a terrible decision with this GUI...I cannot explain why it is bad, but it makes no sense, um I know.. It is upside down, the bottom should be at the top, the then the top, then the middle, how anyone thought this was a great idea baffles me...It is upside down.,,,

It does not work like that, under properties, someone made a mistake with the wording, and sorry but the use of "DON'T" is stupid and has no place in modern coding.

It has to be positive in all contexts, Allow...YES Allow...NO.. In both examples here, the prefix, ALLOW is positive, and even when combined with ...NO, it still remains positive, in that you know for certain under all conditions what the condition of the term is...It is either allowed or not allowed.

I don't have a switch like the graphic shows, on my version of Manager it is hidden under Project Commands, which makes no sense..In fact the entire GUI needs an overhaul.

I checked the advanced view with the switch for No new tasks/Allow new tasks... I don't know what the active option is.. Is it the opposite of what is shown on the screen???

That is simply terrible, and makes no sense under any circumstance, the simple view is better, but not any better in terms of functionality, or understanding...

Many of the commands are not respected when you use them, the ignore mouse/keyboard, does not work under High Sierra..

I would love to have control over what I download, what units are worked on, there is very little information about this...
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Message 1903863 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 14:21:54 UTC - in response to Message 1903656.  

We don't have to wait for the full fix before starting to split again, but the point at which we can split will probably be sometime tomorrow. Until then, we only have a few re-dos and a little bit of astropulse to do.

Uncle Eric, Are we there yet? :-)
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Message 1903875 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 14:51:52 UTC - in response to Message 1903656.  

Thank you for letting us know. I was wondering why I only had AstroPulse7 as a task option
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Message 1903880 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 15:06:40 UTC - in response to Message 1903863.  

We don't have to wait for the full fix before starting to split again, but the point at which we can split will probably be sometime tomorrow. Until then, we only have a few re-dos and a little bit of astropulse to do.

Uncle Eric, Are we there yet? :-)


I guess not yet :) still no tasks :( I want to find E.T muahaha
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Message 1903895 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 16:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 1903857.  

Justine,

This is the News thread, you will likely get better answers if you post over in Number Crunching.
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Message 1903901 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 16:45:29 UTC - in response to Message 1903895.  

Hi Chris...

Thanks for the suggestion....Mods can if they choose, move/delete my threads if they so choose...I don't mind [pun intended!!]

Was just a suggestion...
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Message 1903902 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 16:51:08 UTC

Thank you for the update. :-)
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Message 1903912 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 18:32:15 UTC
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I thought the reason there was no work was because we'd found E.T.
Oh well, on with the search. {How do I get my profile picture to show up next to my name?}
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Message 1903918 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 18:53:36 UTC - in response to Message 1903846.  

Well I don't like Win10. I have nothing to hide, but I wonder how much it spies on us. Firefox is (was) great at blocking adverts and pop-ups but it freezes all the time, even on this new PC with solid state drives. So I use Edge, and the amount of adverts I get is unreal. I buy a watch off a popular site and from then on, every time I open my Edge browser I'm seeing adverts from that site down both sides of the screen. I don't care how much spying it does as long as it catches the bad people in this world, but to use the information just for adverts seems a bit of a waste to me. It'd be like buying a massive 3D TV just to watch your VHS tapes on. :(
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Message 1903921 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 19:17:13 UTC - in response to Message 1903918.  

I always thought ET was a documentary, and Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind was a follow up to his leaving....
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Message 1903935 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 20:05:30 UTC - in response to Message 1903663.  

Thank you Eric for the info.
It's not the end of the world. Let it take the time it need.


Exactamundo. Take the time and fix it when possible. We'll be waiting here ;)
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Message 1903988 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 0:55:15 UTC - in response to Message 1903656.  

Thanks Eric for update......it is what it is :)
There is anybody out there!
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Message 1903990 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 1:13:29 UTC

I'm usually able to ride out these outages by keeping a maximum sized cache on my computers but my phone, which doesn't keep a large one, has run out.

Anyone know of any other active projects that support x86 Android?

Thanks.
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Message 1903992 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 1:49:20 UTC - in response to Message 1903990.  

I'm under the impression that Collatz does pre 5.0 Android (or non-PIE, anyway, which is effectively the same thing at this point) x86; I have a 5.0 x86 tablet but it wouldn't run their app.
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Message 1903993 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 1:50:10 UTC

There has been some stirring on the server, the show will begin shortly. . . .
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Message 1903995 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 2:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 1903993.  

No, don't think so. Lights have been turned out at the Lab me thinks. They have some phantom process working in the background slowly building up the RTS buffer without any splitters running. The scheduler is offline still so no way to get access to the MB tasks anyway. Think we will have to wait for tomorrow before getting any work.
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Message 1903999 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 2:43:11 UTC
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Justine,

The words on the button tell you what will happen if you click it. I can understand how it confuses you. At one time, it would have confused me as well. (I have long suspected I have a little bit of autism myself, but I've never been tested for it.)

I have two suggestions:

1. (Wait until there is work again.) Try clicking it and see what the effect is, then try it the other way and see what that effect is. (You won't see these effects immediately; you'll have to do it and then check back hours or days later.) Then just remember it.

2. Switch to Advanced View. Under the Advanced menu, click Event Log... A new window will open, telling you everything that has happened with Boinc since it started up (probably the last time your computer rebooted). When you go back to the main window and click the No/Allow new tasks button, the log will show you what you've done.

As for deciding what work units to download, you can decide (on your account preferences pages here on the web site) whether you want regular Seti, Astropulse, or both, but no one has any more control than that. Random assignment is part of the project's scientific architecture.
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Message 1904000 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 2:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 1903857.  

Hello Justine, there are no constructive answers to such questions - but things remain as they are - the seti community could be so exciting - but it remains boring and boring. Stay curious, ask and annoy. I do it too

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81990&postid=1892131

Greetings Klaus
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Message 1904001 - Posted: 1 Dec 2017, 2:56:25 UTC

On the matter of clicking the red x on your own post,...

This isn't Facebook or Twitter. No automated statistics are kept of your "offensive" posts. If someone else reports one of your posts as offensive, the moderator who handles the report can manually look at your history, but if they see that you requested that one of your own posts be hidden and the reason why, they won't hold it against you.
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