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Message 1903810 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 10:45:50 UTC
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Hi Moderators...

Not sure if you could suggest to the Seti forum admin staff or designer that we be able to edit/delete posted messages that we posted...
I am now a bit sorry that I posted something about win10...seems to now be a bit too much....For that I apologise..

Oh..just saw the edit button..thought that it was used to change the UTC time..why you would want to change that..no idea...but the proximity to the timestamp...I checked, my offending post does not have an edit button...would love to change my previous post!!!

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Message 1903811 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 10:51:34 UTC

If you want a post of your's deleted you have to notify the moderators using the tiny "red x" situated next to the reply & quote buttons at the bottom of the post. (I wish it was a little larger and clearer....)
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Message 1903813 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 1903810.  

The 'edit' button is available for one hour after your original posting.
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Message 1903814 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 1903811.  

Hi Rob....

Thanks..."report as offensive" a tad strong, and no I don't want to report as offensive, it was not offensive, annoying maybe, an error YES, but offensive...not at all...

Just one other question...on the app itself it has options...
PROJECT COMMANDS...Allow New Tasks/ No New Tasks ...

If you look under properties option..
It says Don't request tasks no when you set the option to No New Tasks...
It says Don't request tasks yes when you set the option to Allow New Tasks...

So my question is...what have I set my option to.. there is a conflict here... I have it set to Allow new Tasks, but the property option says it is NO don't request tasks...I am so confused....
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Message 1903818 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 1903814.  

So my question is...what have I set my option to.. there is a conflict here... I have it set to Allow new Tasks, but the property option says it is NO don't request tasks...I am so confused....
Justine

It shows what will happen if you click the button.
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Message 1903824 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 1903818.  

Hi Grant...

That is just the problem, I am not sure if when it says Allow New Tasks, if this is actually in code for Deny new tasks, as the property options says NO...if there was a tick box, or a radio button, but the way the GUI is set up, it does not make any sense...There is a conflict...

Of course no units to download, only makes it more confusing, I am just asking for a GUI confirmation as to what I have chosen, I have it displayed as "Allow new Tasks" but I am not sure if this is a double switch, that as it is on the screen that is what you press if you want to allow new tasks, so if I have it on the screen to read "Don't allow new tasks" this is telling the server to allow new tasks...

It is confusing...
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Message 1903826 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:19:14 UTC

If you are accepting tasks then the button should read "No New Tasks" and when you are not then it will read "Allow New Tasks".

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Message 1903831 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:25:18 UTC - in response to Message 1903824.  

I have it displayed as "Allow new Tasks" but I am not sure if this is a double switch, that as it is on the screen that is what you press if you want to allow new tasks,

Which means if you click it, it will allow new tasks.

so if I have it on the screen to read "Don't allow new tasks" this is telling the server to allow new tasks...

No it's just as it says- if you click on it then it will stop new tasks from downloading,
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Message 1903833 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 1903826.  

It would be so so much less stressful and confusing if the language of the property tab was changed...
I am autistic and the use of double negative confuses me...maybe bright brains get it....

ALLOW TASKS..............................YES
ALLOW TASKS...............................NO...

The use of the word Don't allow....for both yes and no creates a conflict.....
I get that the GUI uses the negative option, that is the use of a double switch...but it is wrong, it is confusing and needs a tweak...
Please can it be changed to a tick box...

Do you want to ALLOW TASKS.......... [_] YES/ [_] NO.

Please..please!!!
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Message 1903835 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 1903831.  

Hi Grant..

No it is the opposite...how can I explain myself...

If you have it on the screen "allow new tasks" the property section, dont allow tasks says yes....

What does that mean? To me it means no tasks..

If I have it on the screen to say No new tasks, the property section says Dont allow new tasks...NO

Dont and NO????????????Double negative...that does not mean YES...or does it????
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Message 1903836 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:45:28 UTC

None on android's boinc?
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Message 1903837 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 11:47:26 UTC - in response to Message 1903656.  

No problems mate . You'll solve the issues. Thanks for letting me know
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Message 1903839 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 12:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 1903835.  

Re allowing new tasks (if there were any...)

The property box tells you how things are NOW.

The command button tells you what would happen in the future if you clicked it.
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Message 1903840 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 12:09:57 UTC - in response to Message 1903839.  

Hi there....

I am not sure that is right, look now is a great time to change the GUI, to fix a tiny problem, it would not be so huge a task to remove the words "Don't allow" to "Allow" [tick box] YES/ [tick box] NO.

The use of the double switch is confusing and not effective...Since I started using BOINC, I was never sure what the right selection was...
Either a tick box, or a radio button, matters not what, but at the moment it is not fit for purpose.

I am also confused about how my "rate" is calculated, 4 039 what? Why not just have it as full work units completed..and allow me to decide how many work units I want, sometimes there are 5 or 6 units being worked on at the same time, and this ties up the laptop to the point it is non functional.

I have tried using the set cpu limit, but sorry under High Sierra, the app is not respecting my commands, I sent Seti@home a tweet about this, no reply, it was before thanksgiving..

It is a great time now to make changes before the new year...why not make a few changes? Fix confusing commands?? I wish I knew how to code, so I could write the code myself...Maybe in ZX spectrum basic I could...
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Message 1903845 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 12:41:02 UTC - in response to Message 1903840.  

It's actually quite difficult to get agreement on how to change the way the BOINC Manager looks on screen - it involves liaising with the developers who understand GUI design in all the major operating systems, and finding words that still make sense in all the 40-odd languages BOINC supports.

On my Windows screen, there's a tooltip which pops up when you move the mouse pointer over the command button:


Would it help to change the wording here, to make clear it refers to an action: "Click here to stop fetching tasks for this project."?

And in the alternate case, to change the current "Allow fetching new tasks for this project." into "Click here to allow fetching tasks for this project."

Or if you could suggest better words than mine, please feel free to do so: I can pass them up the line for consideration by the developers.
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Message 1903846 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 12:44:48 UTC - in response to Message 1903763.  

[quote
.I never liked win10 anyway...
Justine


Does anybody else wish that Micro$oft had never gone in the Win 10 direction? Win 7 was the best version of Windows I've seen, as far as I can tell Win10 is a downgrade![/quote]

. . Actually the core OS in Win10 is pretty damned good. It is the Big Brother "stuff" on top of it that is a pain the rear. The telemetry as it is called and usage info mining that is beyond the pail. If it weren't for that and the despotic "updates" it would be my fave OS. But as usual they had to hide all manner of user config options in new and unusual places. Can't have the users actually having control of their own computers now can they??

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Message 1903847 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 12:51:28 UTC - in response to Message 1903810.  
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Oh..just saw the edit button..thought that it was used to change the UTC time..why you would want to change that..no idea...but the proximity to the timestamp...I checked, my offending post does not have an edit button...would love to change my previous post!!!

Thanks
Justine


. . OK everyone beat me to the punch re the following - The edit function lapses one hour (or thereabouts) after a message is posted. If you want to remove a message completely (that you have written yourself) then pressing the red x button will flag the message for a moderator and you can leave them a note about why you want it gone. If it is reasonable they will "hide" the message and it will not be visible to anyone other than mods. Don't let the report function saying "offensive" put you off, it is a case of using minimal words. You can ask the mods to hide or move a message if it is in the wrong thread. But it is a function best used sparingly, for the mods' sake.

. . But on your subsequent post ... yes a double negative does mean yes!

. . As others have also said, the button label indicates the effect pressing the button will have. If the label says "Allow new tasks" then pressing it will set your client to accept new work, meaning it presently will not allow new work, and vice versa. Like a door marked "IN", using the door will take you "in", but you are presently "Out". The label indicates the change it will create.


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Message 1903849 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 13:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 1903845.  
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Neither of my mac or my Win10 GUI look like that...My "tasks" are hidden under the project command option, you click that and a list of options appears..
BOINC maybe did not consider how things would work...Not sure how to load a graphic/screensgrab...it seems I need to host the file somewhere...[not right..note to developer..THAT NEEDS CHANGING]

In that screen, yes it might work the way intended, on my version of GUI it simply fails, let down by the conflict caused by the condition of the use of the words "Don't Allow..." under properties...

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Message 1903850 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 13:10:57 UTC - in response to Message 1903849.  

No I don't want to remove a message, and the 1 hour lapse of the edit function, can be set to 9 999 minutes...basically 1 year or something...
All I asked for was that the words Don't allow be changed to Allow, and instead of a double switch option as it is now under project commands in the version I downloaded a couple of days ago...ie, that is, the latest iteration of BOINC Manager, that there is a problem with the wording, that from the previous win10 version as shown above to the latest, the latest is a mistake...it happens...

Why everyone is getting hot under the collar confuses me...It is not their problem, nor can they fix it, they can either agree or disagree, comments welcome...

And no I hate Win10, nothing about win10 is of any good, it is an impossible system to navigate, it took me 15 minutes to find how to make a screen grab, and then how to use paint..This is not the case on a mac..preview and you are done..Simple...

I will be sorry later for the rant on win10...I hoped and pray every night that tomorrow WinXP 64 is for sale, and I would buy it...
Please please please can we change the wording of the GUI to make it clear what we want, a radio button or a check box, in coding they really are the same thing, do the same job...the GUI is faulty...

I am that kid who the village hates....[reference to a well known fable]
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Message 1903851 - Posted: 30 Nov 2017, 13:14:16 UTC

Good morning.

This is when the option to store tasks for several days becomes very useful. That's why I didn't notice anything but the incoming message you sent.

Have a nice day and congratulations for your hard work and dedication.

Alejandro.
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