Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems?

Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 23 · 24 · 25 · 26 · 27 · 28 · 29 . . . 32 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Brent Norman Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 99
Posts: 2395
Credit: 273,795,341
RAC: 685,319
Canada
Message 1904828 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 18:36:16 UTC - in response to Message 1904827.  
Last modified: 4 Dec 2017, 18:41:32 UTC

One day outage, about 2 weeks to recover seems about normal, CMAO :((
ID: 1904828 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6530
Credit: 189,878,223
RAC: 15,103
United States
Message 1904829 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 18:40:58 UTC - in response to Message 1904827.  

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.

Slowly.
If there are no other unexpected or extended outages I expect mine to be back where it was in a few weeks.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1904829 · Report as offensive
Profile Mr. Kevvy Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 15 May 99
Posts: 2115
Credit: 511,501,945
RAC: 349,986
Canada
Message 1904830 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 18:59:07 UTC - in response to Message 1904827.  
Last modified: 4 Dec 2017, 19:02:15 UTC

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.


It takes a while because of the Pendings. If you have very fast CPUs/GPUs most of your work units will be waiting for slower wing-hosts who take correspondingly longer to return their results, and you don't get your credit until they do. The outage was three days so they mostly emptied their caches and reported their results during that time thus resetting your wait timer.

You can check this by watching your Pendings and seeing if they are increasing over time. Once it stabilizes your RAC will start increasing.
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.”
--- Margaret Mead
ID: 1904830 · Report as offensive
Profile David@home
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jan 03
Posts: 740
Credit: 4,151,759
RAC: 3
United Kingdom
Message 1904834 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 19:30:38 UTC - in response to Message 1904830.  
Last modified: 4 Dec 2017, 19:31:10 UTC

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.


It takes a while because of the Pendings. If you have very fast CPUs/GPUs most of your work units will be waiting for slower wing-hosts who take correspondingly longer to return their results, and you don't get your credit until they do. The outage was three days so they mostly emptied their caches and reported their results during that time thus resetting your wait timer.

You can check this by watching your Pendings and seeing if they are increasing over time. Once it stabilizes your RAC will start increasing.


Many thanks, all the explanations kind of make sense. Looking at validation pending it looks to be back to what it was before the outage about 2.5 times In progess number so hopefully next stats update will start to see an increase.

I even tried Mr.Kevvy's rescheduler to increase my processing credit rate. I think I sent a PM, did you see it OK? I say think because I wonder if I actually pressed the send button, not used the PM function much on these forums.
ID: 1904834 · Report as offensive
Stephen "Heretic" Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Sep 12
Posts: 3706
Credit: 84,806,168
RAC: 130,457
Australia
Message 1904844 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 20:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 1904827.  

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.


. . Allow it a couple of weeks ... for full recovery maybe a little longer ...

Stephen

..
ID: 1904844 · Report as offensive
Profile JaundicedEye Project Donor
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 14 Mar 12
Posts: 4379
Credit: 30,579,575
RAC: 585
United States
Message 1904845 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 20:28:07 UTC
Last modified: 4 Dec 2017, 20:28:29 UTC

I've left one rig out of service after the outage and subsequent DB disaster for cleaning and a little tweaking, I'm not expecting much RAC improvement anyway so it seemed like a good time.

"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>
ID: 1904845 · Report as offensive
OKA

Send message
Joined: 18 Jun 01
Posts: 13
Credit: 17,798,452
RAC: 39,499
Norway
Message 1904846 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 20:29:34 UTC - in response to Message 1904845.  

I have only got GPU tasks. Anybody got anything for CPU?
ID: 1904846 · Report as offensive
Profile Brent Norman Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 1 Dec 99
Posts: 2395
Credit: 273,795,341
RAC: 685,319
Canada
Message 1904847 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 20:37:48 UTC - in response to Message 1904846.  

There are plenty of CPU tasks for MB available, but see you don't have them. Check your web preferences to make sure you have CPU selected. Either that or you didn't install a CPU app with the Lunatics installer. AVX for the Ryzen, SSE3 for the Xeon.
ID: 1904847 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6530
Credit: 189,878,223
RAC: 15,103
United States
Message 1904848 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 20:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 1904846.  

I have only got GPU tasks. Anybody got anything for CPU?

Some users have had an issues where their system would not receive CPU tasks when their GPU cache was full.
A workaround is to uncheck the GPU in your project prefs, update to get new settings, and then CPU tasks should be assigned on the next update.
Once you have CPU tasks recheck the GPU in your project prefs.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1904848 · Report as offensive
OKA

Send message
Joined: 18 Jun 01
Posts: 13
Credit: 17,798,452
RAC: 39,499
Norway
Message 1904853 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 21:11:30 UTC - in response to Message 1904848.  

I reinstalled lunatics and used the same settings and I got a dozen CPU on the Ryzen pc, but none on the Xeon. I unchecked GPU on that one and I will wait and see if it works. Thank you guys.
ID: 1904853 · Report as offensive
OKA

Send message
Joined: 18 Jun 01
Posts: 13
Credit: 17,798,452
RAC: 39,499
Norway
Message 1904861 - Posted: 4 Dec 2017, 21:24:28 UTC - in response to Message 1904853.  

No luck on the Xeon. Maybe I should install the resceduler and see if that helps. Or do I have to have at least one CPU already?
ID: 1904861 · Report as offensive
Ghia
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 7 Feb 17
Posts: 185
Credit: 16,406,862
RAC: 20,561
Norway
Message 1904918 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 3:17:28 UTC - in response to Message 1904819.  


I had a scanner (CanoScan LIDE 20) which I could not use because no Windows 64-bit driver was ever developed for it. I had to keep it plugged into an old laptop I used for little else. Just for giggles I tried it on 64-bit Linux Mint 17.2 when I first installed it as I had read Mint/Ubuntu supported about 2,400 different scanner models, and, lo and behold, it worked right away without installing anything else. This pretty much sold me on using Linux as my full-time productivity OS, not just for SETI@Home.


I also have a very old CanoScan LIDE (N656U) which gave me driver problems when I went from XP to Win7 x64. Found a little program called VueScan, and the scanner works just fine to this day.

...Ghia...

Off to find a copy of VueScan if I can, in hopes my LIDE20 will work and I can dump the XP box I keep just to support the scanner.
It may be you have made my day!

Oh well, nice thought but:
Doesn't indicate support for Win 10 and they want $40 to find out or they watermark each scan...


It does indicate support for Win10. I have not paid for the program, and have no watermarks. But then, I have v.9.4.48 , not the current v.9.5.92.
Yes, the interface is rather clunky, but one gets used to it. I find it better than the alternatives (keeping an old XP-machine around or buying a new scanner).
Humans may rule the world...but bacteria run it...
ID: 1904918 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6530
Credit: 189,878,223
RAC: 15,103
United States
Message 1904919 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 4:08:43 UTC - in response to Message 1904861.  

No luck on the Xeon. Maybe I should install the resceduler and see if that helps. Or do I have to have at least one CPU already?

I don't know if rescheduling would help or not. I haven't run into that specific issue myself.
For others swapping settings and poking BOINC with a stick would resolve their issue.

I suppose if rescheduling some tasks does get things flowing a project reset in BOINC might work, but I never like doing a project reset myself.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
ID: 1904919 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 10345
Credit: 138,967,920
RAC: 84,283
Australia
Message 1904927 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 6:42:28 UTC - in response to Message 1904827.  

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.

Mine stopped falling as of yesterday.
Going back up again will take a week or so to get near to what it was. It all depends on the work mix whether it will take a couple of weeks to get back where it was, or not even get that high (at this stage).
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1904927 · Report as offensive
Profile David@home
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jan 03
Posts: 740
Credit: 4,151,759
RAC: 3
United Kingdom
Message 1904929 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 7:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 1904927.  

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.

Mine stopped falling as of yesterday.
Going back up again will take a week or so to get near to what it was. It all depends on the work mix whether it will take a couple of weeks to get back where it was, or not even get that high (at this stage).


My RAC started to recover much quicker but it is only a fraction of yours so did not fall so far. Alas the rate of recovery has now slowed down, hardly moved at all from the last stats update. Only had two days crunching with my new graphics card before the outage so looks like I wil have to wait a few weeks to work out the impact it is having. I estimate it is giving 5-6000 extra credits a day, not as much I had hoped for really.
ID: 1904929 · Report as offensive
Profile David@home
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jan 03
Posts: 740
Credit: 4,151,759
RAC: 3
United Kingdom
Message 1904931 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 7:13:11 UTC

The usual maintenance slot warning is not posted on the home page today. Maybe we will have a free Tuesday following the outage? I'll find out when I get home from work this evening.
ID: 1904931 · Report as offensive
Profile Bernie Vine
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 May 99
Posts: 9471
Credit: 59,038,483
RAC: 17,809
United Kingdom
Message 1904933 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 7:27:25 UTC - in response to Message 1904931.  

The usual maintenance slot warning is not posted on the home page today. Maybe we will have a free Tuesday following the outage? I'll find out when I get home from work this evening.

It is still Monday in Berkeley. Look again after 08:00 UTC.
ID: 1904933 · Report as offensive
Profile David@home
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 16 Jan 03
Posts: 740
Credit: 4,151,759
RAC: 3
United Kingdom
Message 1904937 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 8:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 1904933.  

Yes, its just appeared, will not help the RAC recovery :-(
ID: 1904937 · Report as offensive
Stephen "Heretic" Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Sep 12
Posts: 3706
Credit: 84,806,168
RAC: 130,457
Australia
Message 1904947 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 11:10:24 UTC - in response to Message 1904927.  

Anybody any thoughts on how quick the RAC should recover after the outage? Mine was quick to drop but has not shown much sign of recovery despite crunching 100% since Saturday morning.

Mine stopped falling as of yesterday.
Going back up again will take a week or so to get near to what it was. It all depends on the work mix whether it will take a couple of weeks to get back where it was, or not even get that high (at this stage).


. . Same here, after nearly 48 hours of crunching the RAC stopped dropping. Now the long slow ascent back to "normal".

Stephen

:)
ID: 1904947 · Report as offensive
Stephen "Heretic" Special Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 20 Sep 12
Posts: 3706
Credit: 84,806,168
RAC: 130,457
Australia
Message 1904948 - Posted: 5 Dec 2017, 11:13:17 UTC - in response to Message 1904931.  
Last modified: 5 Dec 2017, 11:16:18 UTC

The usual maintenance slot warning is not posted on the home page today. Maybe we will have a free Tuesday following the outage? I'll find out when I get home from work this evening.


. . And here I have been squirelling away nuts all day ... OOPS!

It is still Monday in Berkeley. Look again after 08:00 UTC.


. . Now that's a relief, it was not all for nought after all.

Stephen

:)
ID: 1904948 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 23 · 24 · 25 · 26 · 27 · 28 · 29 . . . 32 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (108) Server Problems?


 
©2018 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.