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Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Thanks for the update. I have been scouring the used market for a 1080, and am blown away that that 1660ti goes nearly toe to toe with it. Very impressive. Rethinking the path forward, that's for sure.And although it's not on the list yet (since it's just been released) the GTX 1660 Super is meant to be on par (or even slightly better) than the 1660Ti, and it's cheaper. https://www.pcmag.com/review/371538/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-super-twin-fan Seems to think the 1660ti has 240 more cuda cores than the Super while running at par or less in power under the same "load". Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13825 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Seems to think the 1660ti has 240 more cuda cores than the Super while running at par or less in power under the same "load".The Ti version may have more cores, but for compute work the Super version is generally on par or better performance wise. GTX 1660 Super compute performance. Grant Darwin NT |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Well that is interesting. I have just installed my Gtx 1660 Super. And it "reports" as being a Thu 28 Nov 2019 02:42:30 AM CST | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: Graphics Device (driver version 440.26, CUDA version 10.2, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3974MB available, 5153 GFLOPS peak) Notice, there is no "model" with it. That happened on both the 4.30 driver and the latest driver I can install... Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
W3Perl Send message Joined: 29 Apr 99 Posts: 251 Credit: 3,696,783,867 RAC: 12,606 |
Well that is interesting. run update-pciids |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Well that is interesting. tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ sudo update-pciids Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2019-11-26 03:15:03 tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ Then ran this: tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ sudo update-pciids Downloaded daily snapshot dated 2019-11-26 03:15:03 tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Root Complex 00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse IOMMU 00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:01.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse GPP Bridge 00:01.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse GPP Bridge 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:03.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:03.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse GPP Bridge 00:03.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse GPP Bridge 00:04.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:05.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:07.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:07.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to bus[E:B] 00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to bus[E:B] 00:08.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to bus[E:B] 00:08.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to bus[E:B] 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 61) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 0 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 1 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 2 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 3 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 4 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 5 00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 6 00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse Device 24: Function 7 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] (rev a1) 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 02:00.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device 43d0 (rev 01) 02:00.1 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset SATA Controller (rev 01) 02:00.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Bridge (rev 01) 03:00.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 01) 03:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 01) 03:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 01) 03:03.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 01) 03:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 01) 03:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 400 Series Chipset PCIe Port (rev 01) 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 3GB] (rev a1) 04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP106 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] (rev a1) 05:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03) 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 [GeForce GTX 1070] (rev a1) 08:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP104 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 09:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM2142 USB 3.1 Host Controller 0a:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 3GB] (rev a1) 0a:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP106 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 21c4 (rev a1) 0b:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 0b:00.2 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aec (rev a1) 0b:00.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aed (rev a1) 0c:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse PCIe Dummy Function 0d:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Reserved SPP 0d:00.1 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse Cryptographic Coprocessor PSPCPP 0d:00.3 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Matisse USB 3.0 Host Controller 0d:00.4 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller 0e:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 51) 0f:00.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 51) tlgalenson@moonshot3:~$ I did. It seemed to work. Then ran: And found this: 0b:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 21c4 (rev a1) So is it possible the "Super" has not been added to the website that " update-pciids" updates from? Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
440.26 is the oldest driver you can use for that card. its possible that you have some strange conflict going on with remnants from your 430 driver that you had previously installed. try to purge all nvidia drivers. sudo apt purge *nvidia* then reinstall the 440 drivers sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440 then reboot. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
440.26 is the oldest driver you can use for that card. Did that. Then ran the update again. And the testing listing. No change. Is it possible you have to re-boot before the name will actually update in the displayed area? Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Well that is interesting. Task 8279312184 Name 26no19ab.24299.13973.6.33.13_1 Workunit 3762682807 Created 28 Nov 2019, 11:43:10 UTC Sent 28 Nov 2019, 16:31:42 UTC Report deadline 11 Jan 2020, 0:45:47 UTC Received 28 Nov 2019, 19:25:32 UTC Server state Over Outcome Success Client state Done Exit status 0 (0x00000000) Computer ID 8853145 Run time 57 sec CPU time 54 sec Validate state Initial Credit 0.00 Device peak FLOPS 5,153.28 GFLOPS Application version SETI@home v8 Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU) Peak working set size 673.69 MB Peak swap size 27,258.18 MB Peak disk usage 0.02 MB Stderr output <core_client_version>7.14.2</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> setiathome_CUDA: Found 6 CUDA device(s): Device 1: Graphics Device, 5944 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536 computeCap 7.5, multiProcs 22 pciBusID = 11, pciSlotID = 0 Device 2: GeForce GTX 1070, 8119 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536 computeCap 6.1, multiProcs 15 pciBusID = 1, pciSlotID = 0 Device 3: GeForce GTX 1070, 8119 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536 computeCap 6.1, multiProcs 15 pciBusID = 5, pciSlotID = 0 Device 4: GeForce GTX 1070, 8119 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536 computeCap 6.1, multiProcs 15 pciBusID = 8, pciSlotID = 0 Device 5: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3019 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536 computeCap 6.1, multiProcs 9 pciBusID = 4, pciSlotID = 0 Device 6: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3018 MiB, regsPerBlock 65536 computeCap 6.1, multiProcs 9 pciBusID = 10, pciSlotID = 0 In cudaAcc_initializeDevice(): Boinc passed DevPref 1 setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking... Device 1: Graphics Device is okay SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device Graphics Device Unroll autotune 1. Overriding Pulse find periods per launch. Parameter -pfp set to 1 Finally managed to catch up with a Gtx 1660 Super task..... Ran in about a minute.... which if that is consistent would make it the fastest card on my Rig. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
This post is for "me" so I can find the latest test results. Its here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=81962&postid=2018703#2018703 Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
@Shaggie: What happened to the RTX Nvidia cards? |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Notice, there is no "model" with it. That happened on both the 4.30 driver and the latest driver I can install... Have you tried: sudo update-pciids https://linux.101hacks.com/unix/update-pciids/ Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Notice, there is no "model" with it. That happened on both the 4.30 driver and the latest driver I can install... Hi Keith, So according to that page this should be done regularly? Ok, so I did the update. I did a "lspci" before and then after. Now I see a change for my M.2 NVMe drive controller. It was: 06:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981 And is now: 06:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981/PM983 I also see that this: 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH HD Audio 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family SMBus Controller 00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 2182 (rev a1) 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aeb (rev a1) 01:00.2 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aec (rev a1) 01:00.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aed (rev a1) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 2182 (rev a1) 02:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aeb (rev a1) 02:00.2 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aec (rev a1) 02:00.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aed (rev a1) 05:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. Device 2142 Has changed to this: 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH HD Audio 00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family SMBus Controller 00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 Ti] (rev a1) 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 01:00.2 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aec (rev a1) 01:00.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aed (rev a1) 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 Ti] (rev a1) 02:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1) 02:00.2 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aec (rev a1) 02:00.3 Serial bus controller [0c80]: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1aed (rev a1) 05:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM2142 USB 3.1 Host Controller Everything from the Ethernet controller on down is different after the update. Is there anything I need to do? Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
If I am understanding it correctly this only changes the "labels" of the hardware but doesn't change the functionality at all. So I don't think you need to do anything. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Hi Tom, Ah, ok, that makes sense. Thanks! :) Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
If I am understanding it correctly this only changes the "labels" of the hardware but doesn't change the functionality at all. So I don't think you need to do anything. Correct. Tom was complaining the labels were missing from his 1660 Super card. Thought that might resolve the issue. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13825 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
@Shaggie: What happened to the RTX Nvidia cards?? They're there in the most recent graph. Grant Darwin NT |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36171 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Right here in fact. ;-)@Shaggie: What happened to the RTX Nvidia cards?? They're there in the most recent graph. Cheers. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Right here in fact. ;-)@Shaggie: What happened to the RTX Nvidia cards?? They're there in the most recent graph. Hi Wiggo, Never mind... ;) Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Tom M Send message Joined: 28 Nov 02 Posts: 5124 Credit: 276,046,078 RAC: 462 |
Who would have thought that the price on eBay is now lower for EVGA gtx 1660 Ti cards than it is for EVGA gtx 1660 Super cards (at least some are). Plus the EVGA Supers seem to be a bit scarce. My results so far seem to be very encouraging. It's fastest times are the lowest on the machine. And I haven't caught it going slower than a 1 minute and 30 seconds or so which puts it right in there with my gtx 1070's. I haven't actually tried to download an XML and sort the info out. But the spot checks are very encouraging. Tom A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association). |
petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 |
Hi, Reality is now that the top 200 are almost all Linux machines running with the special app. GPU FLOPS are of no interest as long as they are wasted. If someone is willing to run a curiosity check on those machines and make a rough estimate of performance and wattage I'd be pleased. The wattage can be taken from the manufacturer data or from a questionnaire from actual users running "nvidia-smi -l" That would guide the Santa to deliver the right present to the best behaving children and adults who do not like to obey M$ or other rules. Petri To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
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