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Message 1910580 - Posted: 4 Jan 2018, 18:00:58 UTC - in response to Message 1910575.  

If possible, put the wrench onto the nut, with the bar pointing down at about 45 degrees, now lower the car gently so putting the car's weight on the end of the wrench (make sure you've got it on the right way round so it will undo the nut....)

Following your earlier description of seeing the steel cord from the tyre I'm not surprised at it not holding air :-(

The lug wrench is very short, and My shoulders are not able to budge the lug nuts at all, and I used both arms at once, I've called for someone to help Me in this.

I did get 2 off, just not the last 2 lug nuts.
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Message 1910584 - Posted: 4 Jan 2018, 18:09:57 UTC

Lumps of wood, brick or stone can be used under the end of the bar - that way you are only doing the jack, and the car's weight is doing the work...
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Message 1910590 - Posted: 4 Jan 2018, 18:20:15 UTC - in response to Message 1910584.  

Lumps of wood, brick or stone can be used under the end of the bar - that way you are only doing the jack, and the car's weight is doing the work...


I just am not able to do this, seriously, I am not joking, My right shoulder joint was dislocated once, now it hurts.
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Message 1910600 - Posted: 4 Jan 2018, 19:15:42 UTC

Given for future reference.
Another tip is don't try and pull up on the wrench but push down - less likely to pull muscles or injure joints.
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Message 1910659 - Posted: 4 Jan 2018, 21:39:39 UTC

I had the rim/tire on the ground still, I did get the 3rd lug nut off, but 1 won't budge with the short wrench Ford equipped the car with, which looks like this one:

No help is coming today, I called the manager on both numbers, no answer, and I guess no tire either, at least today, but then I don't know what is going on there, I never do.
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Message 1910684 - Posted: 4 Jan 2018, 22:51:58 UTC
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I have canceled the CT scan, why?

Cause I can't get there, I was going to drive there once I had some money from a neighbor for gasoline, but the spare rim/tire and the flat tire killed that.

It's a 100 mile trip, I know to some "I'm moaning", a disgusting term....
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Message 1910746 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 3:40:02 UTC

I've got a question, I do need to replace a tire for sure, I can get one and a 20" tire iron in florescent GREEN that can be used w/a 19mm lug, which is what My car uses, the total amount is $65.53 from Amazon, and I do have $75.00 there that can't be used elsewhere, should I spring for them?

Why the color?

Maybe to annoy My nephew some, and that is the only color it comes in. He can't stand that shade of green for some reason.


The tire is what I can afford.

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Message 1910750 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 3:52:54 UTC - in response to Message 1910746.  

I've got a question, I do need to replace a tire for sure, I can get one and a 20" tire iron in florescent GREEN that can be used w/a 19mm lug, which is what My car uses, the total amount is $65.53 from Amazon, and I do have $75.00 there that can't be used elsewhere, should I spring for them?

Why the color?
To match the police outfit of course.
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Message 1910752 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 4:00:31 UTC - in response to Message 1910750.  

I've got a question, I do need to replace a tire for sure, I can get one and a 20" tire iron in florescent GREEN that can be used w/a 19mm lug, which is what My car uses, the total amount is $65.53 from Amazon, and I do have $75.00 there that can't be used elsewhere, should I spring for them?

Why the color?
To match the police outfit of course.

Oh I like that.

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Message 1910777 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 7:41:59 UTC

Ok since no one said that I shouldn't get the tire and a tire lug wrench, I bought both from Amazon, I just now have to figure out how much an alignment will be, plus mounting and balancing the tire, plus how to pay for that, since I can't drive for long on a tire that will be rubbing against the strut cause of an alignment issue, plus there is a disposal fee for the old tire, at least the incompatible rim will be coming home, it's compatible with a 2001 Hyundai Elantra that uses a 15"x5.5" rim w/a 45mm offset, I found that out from a different source than the buyer on ebay, and it's too late for that, so it's water under the bridge, but at maybe $30.00 the rim is not worth much outside of scrap value, if that.

The last item on ebay has a part number on it, if it does not match, there will be a refund from ebay, as an item as not described.
I say last since I don't want to buy from there after that for a few years, Amazon I want to do largely the same.

The spare tire in My car trunk and the Amazon rim will cost $19.00 to put with each other, I think, as Barstow Tire and Brake doesn't seem to tell one everything up front, which is why I'd like to go elsewhere for most work on the car, if I could. First I was told a smaller amount, then $19.00 cause of moving a tire from one rim to another rim, so yeah if I had an alternative, I'd take the rest of My business elsewhere, I used to go to PepBoys years ago, but they don't exist in Barstow, I had dealings with them in Hesperia CA and in Victorville CA, Barstow is probably too small for them still.

I could live without the spare for a month, one place Auto Express said $80 for manual alignment, but I think that is how I started eating front right tires, that's the only thing that makes any sense, I'll ask Barstow Tire and Brake how much an alignment costs and what all the costs are, then go from there in February, I sure won't be going to the Post Office to collect any mail, not this month I don't think.

I don't like it when things get in My way all at once.
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Message 1910779 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 8:33:07 UTC

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Sorry I was in bed when you asked your question about those "spider lug wrenches" - the best are good, but the vast majority aren't worth the money, so, please, try and cancel that bit of the order. I would expect to pay >$100 for a good one, but the few dollars you spend on a cheap one that's been painted a pretty colour is just asking for trouble when you try to use it - the welds break all too easily, and you can end up doing a face plant.
It is much better to look for a "man sized" version of the one you've already got (why, oh why do car manufacturers give out such small tools....)

Tyre rubbing on the strut due to alignment issues??? Wrong wheel offeset is not alignment issue, its a wrong wheel, and the sidewall will wear away in only a few miles, so don't even risk it.

NEVER EVER DRIVE with a tyre rubbing on anything - that is in effect setting out on a journey with the intent on having an accident.

With all these tyre & suspension woes its about time you stopped and thought about getting your car properly looked at - it may cost a few dollars, but it could well save you many times what you spend. So forget getting any more computer bits until after fixing your car.
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Message 1910782 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 9:42:01 UTC

I've found that when they use an air wrench to put your tires back on , Its very hard to get them off by hand. I just position the cheap ass wrench they give you with cars now days, To stomp on them with your foot. And I do mean stomp.
If your tire is rubbing against what ever it is. It wont last untill you get that problem fixed.
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Message 1910796 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 11:52:26 UTC

Maybe you need one of these and a 19 mm socket....very similar to what I keep in the boot (trunk, to you).
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Message 1910797 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 12:07:48 UTC

That would certainly do the job, but probably not as well as my 36" bar....

The socket should be a 6-point one not the more common 12-point. They tend to be a bit more expensive when bought singly, but bought as a set of 4-6 they can become cheaper (such is the wonderful world of tool pricing) - this set looks to be a "sensible" idea https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0719K6D4F/ref=psdc_15709141_t2_B01N17CK76
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Message 1910803 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 14:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1910797.  
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I've also got two pieces of thick-walled steel tube that fit inside each-other, totalling about 4' (with an 'overlap' of about 6"), if extra leverage is needed. As to sockets, I actually use a 'deep impact' socket from a set for pneumatic tools.......just like the ones they use to tighten the wheel nuts! I know, overkill! There are also these, which are quite handy and work quite well for most people.
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Message 1910827 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 16:17:48 UTC

Ahhh - the good old bit of scaff pole comes to the rescue.....
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Message 1910829 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 16:23:36 UTC - in response to Message 1910779.  
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Vic,
Sorry I was in bed when you asked your question about those "spider lug wrenches" - the best are good, but the vast majority aren't worth the money, so, please, try and cancel that bit of the order. I would expect to pay >$100 for a good one, but the few dollars you spend on a cheap one that's been painted a pretty colour is just asking for trouble when you try to use it - the welds break all too easily, and you can end up doing a face plant.
It is much better to look for a "man sized" version of the one you've already got (why, oh why do car manufacturers give out such small tools....)

Tyre rubbing on the strut due to alignment issues??? Wrong wheel offeset is not alignment issue, its a wrong wheel, and the sidewall will wear away in only a few miles, so don't even risk it.

NEVER EVER DRIVE with a tyre rubbing on anything - that is in effect setting out on a journey with the intent on having an accident.

With all these tyre & suspension woes its about time you stopped and thought about getting your car properly looked at - it may cost a few dollars, but it could well save you many times what you spend. So forget getting any more computer bits until after fixing your car.

The tire wrench I bought, is a bit smaller @ 17", not green now, and $9.99 instead of $14.99, the wrench is on it's way.

The tire rim/wheel is stock, and is on all 4 corners, some of the paint on the strut is worn away, shiny really.
Small tools, yeah, cost I would think, that and the bigger the tool, the more room one needs to store it in the auto.
From what I've read spares are becoming optional, to decrease weight, to get rid of the tools, and substitute a kit to reinflate the tire, which I do know won't always help.
Well I will have to be driven to Barstow to get this partly fixed, then drive there on My own to get the rest done, I'll have to mount the spare tire on the new rim, put that on the back, then put the back wheel up front, and then drive in.
There is a way to offset the rim from the strut by 5mm outward, by using a spacer, but I don't have one, and it might affect the tire when turning the car tire, maybe, I generally don't like spacers, cause it alters the position of the wheel in relation to the car's wheel well.
Even when the 3 get here, hopefully to My door I might add, I can't do anything until maybe the 7th of February, the mailbox is going to be packed, oh well.

And I have not ordered the universal spacers, they can mount on 4-Lug: 4X98, 4X100, 4X108, 4x110, 4x112, 4x114.3, 4X120, 4X4.5"
My cost after a coupon for the 2 spacers, $11.42.
Oh and the spare is wider than the main tires, the spare size is one that was sold with the car used, but is not stock for My car, it's just on the plus side from stock.
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Message 1910836 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 16:43:59 UTC

The tire rim/wheel is stock, and is on all 4 corners, some of the paint on the strut is worn away, shiny really.

This suggests there may be an issue with your front wheel bearings as that is about the only way the tyre can come in contact with the strut (unless you you've got massively over-sized tyres, or are running rims with far too little offset)

Spacers only help if you've got wrong offset or too large a tyre fitted - I think in the latter case you'd be looking at something like a 205 or bigger (based on what my brother used to put on his Escort of a similar date to yours.)
That wrench looks, to put it politely, pathetic - if you have a stuck nut then you'd be safer not trying to use it, the "rods" pull out of the centre pressing so easily :-(
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Message 1910841 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 16:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 1910836.  
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The tire rim/wheel is stock, and is on all 4 corners, some of the paint on the strut is worn away, shiny really.

This suggests there may be an issue with your front wheel bearings as that is about the only way the tyre can come in contact with the strut (unless you you've got massively over-sized tyres, or are running rims with far too little offset)

Spacers only help if you've got wrong offset or too large a tyre fitted - I think in the latter case you'd be looking at something like a 205 or bigger (based on what my brother used to put on his Escort of a similar date to yours.)
That wrench looks, to put it politely, pathetic - if you have a stuck nut then you'd be safer not trying to use it, the "rods" pull out of the centre pressing so easily :-(

I think it's too late on the wrench, places there ship pretty fast, the tire has shipped already in an email I've received, so the wrench can't be far behind.

Wheel bearings, what next?

Well I did not order the spacers, though I could, 5mm distance between the tire and such as a temp measure, there are 2 in the package, for 10mm total.

I'll ask about new wheel bearings on the front.
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Message 1910842 - Posted: 5 Jan 2018, 17:08:11 UTC

Ok I called BT&B, wheel bearing repair, $254.14, and that is just for 1 wheel, not 2, or 3, or 4.

A spacer is looking interesting, as a stopgap solution.
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