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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31122 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Even Putin understands how you must deal with Nazi's http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/17/technology/business/daily-stormer-russia-domain-blocked/index.html?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion Neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer has been booted from the Russian internet. ![]() |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
We don't go to Wally World either, we refuse to spend money there. We don't go to Home Depot either. Target too, I believe is now on our do-not- go-there list. I would have hoped that if you experience discrimination, you'd oppose it in all forms. I don't mind tatoos, different colored hair, piercings. In fact, I would trust those people before I trust a well-dressed shark. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
We don't go to Wally World either, we refuse to spend money there. We don't go to Home Depot either. Target too, I believe is now on our do-not- go-there list. Hi Ozz, Yeah, maybe so. What I probably should have said was that if I have a choice, I tend to gravitate toward the older ones no matter how the youngsters look. An example of that was back in '06 when I was shopping for a laptop. I forget what store I went to first, maybe Target, but it was most obvious that the young guy trying to sell me a laptop knew nothing of what he said. He said something about the laptop that was totally wrong; I don't remember what it was, but I did know it went against what I knew about computers at the time. The guy was well dressed, no tattoos, nose rings or anything, it was just his lack of knowledge about tech that sent me to Best Buy for my laptop. I said somewhere here that everyone has some bigotry. I guess mine is that I don't see why young people (and even some older ones) need to make themselves look freaky with non-naturally colored hair, nose rings, lip rings, major tattooing, etc. . I understand that centuries ago (and perhaps even today) people did things like that for clan recognition and such... Oh well, enough of that. ;) Have a great day, Ozz! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31122 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Ozz, If I understand your question it might as well read why is there racism? How it is swallowed is easy. People who are born into the class that the culture deems privileged have some slight happen to them, or believe they did. If it happens that someone from a not-privileged class gets ahead of them by that slight, they can begin to believe that these non-privileged need to be put back in their place. Talk to do that then becomes very well lubricated to swallow as it fits a world view. You see they now feel they are due something from society. They get fat and lazy and won't work as hard as others because they are due free things. If this sounds a bit like what you hear some people describe welfare as, yes, exactly the same. Perhaps the two are related. Toss in having been exposed to bullying and the brew spills over. ![]() |
Richard Haselgrove ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14687 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 ![]() ![]() |
I think an awful lot of it is to do with kinship and distance. If they live in the next street or run the local store, they're folks like us. If they live in the next town, we'll nod politely and pass by on the other side. If they live in a city on the other side of the country, they're deeply suspicious. If they live in a far, far country of which we know little, they're the devil's spawn. Same people. |
OzzFan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 ![]() ![]() |
Ozz, If I understand your question it might as well read why is there racism? How it is swallowed is easy. I've asked many questions trying to understand what's going on in our country. I didn't really mean for my question to be so obtuse. Rather, I want to understand how it came to be that we have people defending white supremacists. It's like I woke up the other morning and people are actually saying the white supremacists, while vile, somehow have more of a right than those who oppose them. I've seen people equate those who oppose them in a pejorative "alt-left" term. I've seen people saying the white supremacists had a right to be at the park while the anti-white supremacists did not have a right to be there, which is flat out false. Said another way, it seems that the hate toward the left or liberals is so great right now, that people would rather defend white supremacists. That's what I don't get. I understand that by nature liberals and conservatives minds will clash until our sun goes nova, but I had always thought that even the decent conservatives out there, like some of my own conservative friends, would surely understand that there's no such thing as "blame on both sides" in the Charlottesville incident. White supremacists are the bad guys. Period. Where is this hate coming from? I think it is going deeper than just racial hate, though there is certainly a lot of that too. And from where I'm standing, this hate has boiled over, and has been validated by our current sitting President. His supporters here on this forum would rather stand by his side, no matter how dumb his positions are, than take a rational, reasoned look at what's going on. They won't. They hate liberalism and liberals so much so that they are forced to defend neo-Nazis rather than join hands with people over what should be a no-brainer issue. Even now, as they read these words I type, they are forming defenses in their heads to rationalize their positions. To continue to rationalize their hatred for liberals and liberalism. And I write this as someone who, while left of center, does not identify as a liberal. It bothers me greatly that we can't even come together on an issue like this. If we can't even find common ground here, then what chance is there to ever find common ground in the governance of our great people? |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19487 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
Ozz, If I understand your question it might as well read why is there racism? How it is swallowed is easy. +1 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31122 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Ozz, If I understand your question it might as well read why is there racism? How it is swallowed is easy. +2 I think racism has a large measure. I think many of these persons are racist enough that they blame all liberals because a Black Man was president and a huge successful government program they must subscribe to bears his name. Worse in their minds is he served two terms. Their hate is so strong it has boiled over and they no longer are capable of rational thought, they have regressed to a bully on the kindergarten playground as their view wasn't seen as universal so they are going to force everyone to believe it. That is where it ends, they are no longer rational, so all their actions are rationalizations and they shut down taking in any information that does not provide confirmation bias. They are now so invested in the position that they can't admit their premise was wrong. Unfortunately for most even a couple decades in the future they still will be unable to see that blame is on one side only. It isn't universal, and those on the right who only argument with liberals is economic seem unaffected. It is for this reason I think the majority is racism. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Ozz, If I understand your question it might as well read why is there racism? How it is swallowed is easy. Hi Ozz, I'm conservative and not afraid to admit it (I know that makes me evil in Clyde's eyes). Yet, I did not vote for the current idiot who calls himself "president". I did not vote for killer Clinton either. Neither are worth what I flush down the toilet every morning. I do NOT support Trump. I am 100% against neo-Nazis and any group like them. They may have the same rights and privileges as I do per the laws of this country, but that does not mean I have to accept them for what they are. nuf sed Have a great day, Ozz! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Well, it is an American company, what more can one expect. |
bluestar Send message Joined: 5 Sep 12 Posts: 7344 Credit: 2,084,789 RAC: 3 |
Why not "Greetings", Siran ? |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31122 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
PJ Media, an Andrew Britebart affiliate per Wiki. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 ![]() |
Oh good grief. The dangerous normalization of something clearly abnormal. I remember being warned against this in the weeks following inauguration. The mainstream media is just as much at fault here as you've pointed out so clearly. #resist |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19487 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
How have we even got to the point where Nazi's aren't automatically the bad guys? I'm mystified. Show us the evidence, |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 ![]() ![]() |
How have we even got to the point where Nazi's aren't automatically the bad guys? I'm mystified. Interestingly, Noam Chomsky is now addressing this. Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
How have we even got to the point where Nazi's aren't automatically the bad guys? I'm mystified. Clyde, I see no evidence here. All I see is your same old rhetoric. I believe Nick ask you to supply evidence to what you say. Please do so. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
Clyde, Please define what "Denying Never Trumpers" is. If you have this much disdain for our great country, why don't you just leave then. Simple as that. Spewing rhetoric, name calling and creating undefinable terms ain't gonna change anything. Voting might, if we have someone worth voting for. The 2 major party candidates, last election, definitely were not. I did not vote for either one. I snipped you "evidence" because I was not interested in it. Nick was. Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31122 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. ![]() |
W-K 666 ![]() Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19487 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 ![]() ![]() |
How have we even got to the point where Nazi's aren't automatically the bad guys? I'm mystified. I asked for evidence. If you haven't got any, I suggest you keep quiet. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11446 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 ![]() ![]() |
I asked for evidence. He can't control himself, I posit OCD |
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