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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/08/if-voter-fraud-by-out-state-democrats-managed-to-sway-new-hampshire-elections-implications-are-huge.html

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Oh My. GoobaGABBA. Lookkks Likkkeee a Bit of FRAUD by......[CharpDots]......
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/08/if-voter-fraud-by-out-state-democrats-managed-to-sway-new-hampshire-elections-implications-are-huge.html

So you take an opinionated article written by a well-known conservative and post it as if it were fact?

The YAPster: [Insert deflection argument about liberal news sources, and a YAP, and some CharpDots]

Pointing out the faults of others doesn't negate the fact that it was still an opinionated article. One that easily feeds into the bias of strongly conservative readers. What ever happened to balanced intake of news sources and coming to one's own conclusions rather than what the talking heads say?

The YAPster: [Insert comments about liberal talking heads, a YAP, and 45 being the best ever]

Once again, that the "other side" does it doesn't negate the fact that you easily believe an opinionated article posted on a conservative news site because it agrees with your world view. Deflecting the argument by pointing fingers at others doesn't make your source any more reliable.

The YAPster: [insert some CharpDots and re-assert 45 being the best ever, and maybe some deflection about Hillary (really just a figurehead to keep the finger pointed at liberals]

But how does that prove the article is correct? The article very clearly states "if" in the first word of the title. It's more like suggestive reasoning. It's a common tactic used by talking heads to create a straw man argument and pass it off as fact without actually writing an article about facts.

The YAPster: [45 best ever, insert flavor explosion .gif, some CharpDots]

But... ugh. I give up.


(I think I have more satisfying arguments when I argue with myself.)

Ah, poor baby, found that insurance fraud.
Jr went to college but he didn't get a new DL because he has to live at home to be on Daddy's car and medical insurance policies.
Republicans wouldn't know anything about insurance fraud would they?

Once again, that the "other side" does it doesn't negate the fact that you easily believe an opinionated article posted on a conservative news site because it agrees with your world view. Deflecting the argument by pointing fingers at others doesn't make your source any more reliable.

I didn't see anything to refute the facts as stated in the piece.

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Once again, that the "other side" does it doesn't negate the fact that you easily believe an opinionated article posted on a conservative news site because it agrees with your world view. Deflecting the argument by pointing fingers at others doesn't make your source any more reliable.

I didn't see anything to refute the facts as stated in the piece.

Have you considered that most of those voters might just be students at places like Dartmouth with driving licences but don't own cars.

And just a quick point who did they vote for? any evidence they were all Democrats?

An opposing case where Trump won on percentage terms closer than in NH, but Trumps team and the State Governor have declared there was no voter fraud.
Is there any chance this Trump inquiry will be looking at the States he won by a whisker.

The article has to use the "If" because the investigation has not been completed. Read the entire article, it is about "possible" fraud involving same-day registering voters that used an out-of-state driver's license to register. The possible fraud involved was noticed in that many of those voters failed to obtain a new state ID from New Hampshire, so were they really residents as they claimed or were they really from the neighboring states? The President's committee investigating the possible voter fraud doesn't meet until Tuesday. An investigation takes awhile, someone has to physically go to each of the new registrant's address to verify that they are actually living in the state and inquire as to why they haven't obtained a new state ID and/or registered their vehicle with the state. If the voter can't be found living within the state, then the vote mostly likely is fraudulent and if enough votes are found fraudulent, which is quite possible, then the election outcome for that state is incorrect.

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The article has to use the "If" because the investigation has not been completed. Read the entire article, it is about "possible" fraud involving same-day registering voters that used an out-of-state driver's license to register. The possible fraud involved was noticed in that many of those voters failed to obtain a new state ID from New Hampshire, so were they really residents as they claimed or were they really from the neighboring states? The President's committee investigating the possible voter fraud doesn't meet until Tuesday. An investigation takes awhile, someone has to physically go to each of the new registrant's address to verify that they are actually living in the state and inquire as to why they haven't obtained a new state ID and/or registered their vehicle with the state. If the voter can't be found living within the state, then the vote mostly likely is fraudulent and if enough votes are found fraudulent, which is quite possible, then the election outcome for that state is incorrect.

Students can vote in the state where they study. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symm_v._United_States

Students can vote in the state where they study.

Correct.... The Washington Post tracked down three of the accused fraudulent voters and they verified that this is exactly what they were doing... in less than an hour.

Kobach apparently made no attempt to contact voters who’d cast ballots but held out-of-state IDs. Thursday night, The Washington Post asked voters who’d done so to tell their stories; three did so within 60 minutes — college students, who were living in New Hampshire but did not change their licenses.

Hope that doesn't make it Fake News. 😀

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4,000 out of state student voters out of a population of >100,000 doesn't look like a big number to me.

Dartmouth College has over 6,500 students and considering its age probably very few student parking places. I know Cornell in Ithaca, New York has virtually none.

4,000 out of state student voters out of a population of >100,000 doesn't look like a big number to me.

Dartmouth College has over 6,500 students and considering its age probably very few student parking places. I know Cornell in Ithaca, New York has virtually none.

You're talking the neck of the woods I grew up in. You've been there?

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The article has to use the "If" because the investigation has not been completed. Read the entire article, it is about "possible" fraud involving same-day registering voters that used an out-of-state driver's license to register. The possible fraud involved was noticed in that many of those voters failed to obtain a new state ID from New Hampshire, so were they really residents as they claimed or were they really from the neighboring states? The President's committee investigating the possible voter fraud doesn't meet until Tuesday. An investigation takes awhile, someone has to physically go to each of the new registrant's address to verify that they are actually living in the state and inquire as to why they haven't obtained a new state ID and/or registered their vehicle with the state. If the voter can't be found living within the state, then the vote mostly likely is fraudulent and if enough votes are found fraudulent, which is quite possible, then the election outcome for that state is incorrect.

Here's a reason for not updating one's license when legitimately moving to a new state: no car (license only used for ID and occasional rentals). In new state, kept very busy and nearest spot to make the needed changes is in another town 15 miles away. No bus service between the two. Crazy cab company charges about $80 round trip between the two towns. Yes, ones only 15 miles away. People need to get off their high horses.

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The other side of this coin is did these folks also vote in their home state?

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4,000 out of state student voters out of a population of >100,000 doesn't look like a big number to me.

Dartmouth College has over 6,500 students and considering its age probably very few student parking places. I know Cornell in Ithaca, New York has virtually none.

You're talking the neck of the woods I grew up in. You've been there?

Cornell, yes once to visit an ex-colleague of mine, who after leaving the USAF went on to do her post-grad studies there. She wasn't happy to be separated from her tax free NATO discount beamer.

The other side of this coin is did these folks also vote in their home state?

That would have shown up in a different matching run on the data done some time ago; it didn't.

But if you want to keep having fantasies, don't forget to include those who live in one state but work across the border in another. You know those DL laws that say if you take a job in our state you must have our DL and the other state that says if you sleep in our state you must have our DL. You just know they voted several thousand times in each state to reach the millions and millions of fraudulent voters that caused Rump to lose the popular vote! After all you know he is the most popular ever and there were more people at his inauguration than any other; there isn't any chance that he isn't more loved by everyone than that "that felon."

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The other side of this coin is did these folks also vote in their home state?

That would have shown up in a different matching run on the data done some time ago; it didn't.

Thanks for pointing out student voting/ID/DL obstacles. I have a better grasp now.
I didn't know, why I ask. Then two states compare their voter rolls for duplications/multiples. That would fix that part. Are we on the same track?

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The other side of this coin is did these folks also vote in their home state?

That would have shown up in a different matching run on the data done some time ago; it didn't.

Thanks for pointing out student voting/ID/DL obstacles. I have a better grasp now.
I didn't know, why I ask. Then two states compare their voter rolls for duplications/multiples. That would fix that part. Are we on the same track?

We are on the same track. Student voting may be the only part that doesn't get easily caught because mom/dad take care of the kid. Most places send that sample ballot and if the person has moved the post office is supposed to return it not forward it. As long as that happens the voter gets purged and can't vote in two places at once. As to the rest, some places share data, some don't. Messy part is court cases saying not voting is not a reason to purge. No system is ever going to be perfect and there will always be human error.

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U.S. middle-class incomes reached highest-ever level in 2016, Census Bureau says

Trump promised that a combination of tax cuts, infrastructure investment packages, renegotiated trade deals and the repeal of Obama administration regulations would deliver a burst of job creation and attendant economic growth.

So far, no such boom can be found.

In Trump’s first seven months, the U.S. economy has added about 25,000 fewer jobs per month than it did during the last seven months of Barack Obama’s presidency.

In Trump’s first seven months, the U.S. economy has added about 25,000 fewer jobs per month than it did during the last seven months of Barack Obama’s presidency.

Would that perhaps be 25,000 less 'marginal' jobs? Burger Flippers, Bag Boys, Corner Sign Holders?

Please show stats for Manufacturing and Tech jobs added during the last seven months of 'Big 0' Presidency vs so far with Trump(and that's a 0 not an O). That would be the difference between Quantity and Quality.........

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Another fool who doesn't realize as long as the USA has lawyers, manufacturing jobs will be lost. You see the ads, 1-800-BAD-BOSS or 1-800-BAD-DRUG. Lawyers class action sue the crap out of companies that manufacture because the workers have to stand in piles of toxic crap and breath in piles of toxic crap and that cost is thousands of times more than hiring a guy in China who can't sue you to do the job. Just look at what talc just cost Johnson & Johnson. Or what hot coffee cost McDonalds. Put the blame where it belongs, lawyers! Or juries that are all to willing to stick it to "the man" and don't realize they are "the man."

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